Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 21:57     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So all woman intend to have abortions while in college?


No, but evidently the possibility is a priority for the parents of some of these female students.


I think those particular parents are really overestimating the number of other parents who consider this a major factor in college selection.
DP
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 21:56     Subject: Re:Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Seems like a weird criterion to base a college decision on. Aren’t these current birth control methods nearly 100% effective? And if the guy wears a condom too, it should be about 100% effective.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 21:54     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:So all woman intend to have abortions while in college?


No, but evidently the possibility is a priority for the parents of some of these female students.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 21:34     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
What about rape victims?

This goes way deeper than “oops, we forgot birth control”
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 20:20     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So all woman intend to have abortions while in college?


Continue believing this is just about those loose women

It isn’t worth explaining it over and over to people who won’t listen anyway


They aren't loose. They are stupid and/or lazy not to use readily available contraception or birth control. Otherwise, it sounds like their college plans revolve around whether or not they can get an abortion. Tell me how smart that is.


My daughter's intended major is taught at essentially one large state school per state (agriculture related). She has plenty of options for schools in blue or purple states on the East Coast like PA, MD, VA, NC, MA, NJ, NY without needed to go to OH, SC, TN, or FL.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 20:19     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:So all woman intend to have abortions while in college?

I don't *intend* for my DD to get ill at college, but it happens. But could it happen? Of course it can. It's happened to thousands of times. And if should ever happen, I'd want DD to have that choice and not have to fly hundreds, maybe thousands of miles just to get medical care.

But agree with the PP, it's the principle of the matter. It's no one's business what my DD decides to do with her body.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 20:15     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:So all woman intend to have abortions while in college?


I don't intend or hope for my daughter to have an abortion. It is the principle of it. And it goes way beyond that, too. It's not just abortion. It's LGBTQ rights, what is taught in the school, how they treat immigrants, diversity of student body, etc. In general, the laws in blue states are more aligned with our values. And laws have consequences.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 20:11     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So all woman intend to have abortions while in college?


Continue believing this is just about those loose women

It isn’t worth explaining it over and over to people who won’t listen anyway


They aren't loose. They are stupid and/or lazy not to use readily available contraception or birth control. Otherwise, it sounds like their college plans revolve around whether or not they can get an abortion. Tell me how smart that is.


So, so much larger than just abortion, as we see when women in states with draconian laws can't get cancer treatments or certain medicines..


Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 19:37     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:So all woman intend to have abortions while in college?


No, not all women. Just the daughters of DCUM posters. Or at least, their parents intend for them to have abortions.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 19:17     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So all woman intend to have abortions while in college?


Continue believing this is just about those loose women

It isn’t worth explaining it over and over to people who won’t listen anyway


They aren't loose. They are stupid and/or lazy not to use readily available contraception or birth control. Otherwise, it sounds like their college plans revolve around whether or not they can get an abortion. Tell me how smart that is.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 19:05     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:So all woman intend to have abortions while in college?


Continue believing this is just about those loose women

It isn’t worth explaining it over and over to people who won’t listen anyway
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 18:58     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
So all woman intend to have abortions while in college?
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 18:43     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:I have a junior DD. Kids are definitely considering if a college is in a red-state and crossing those colleges off their list.

Practically speaking, I can also see elite schools in red-states losing academic prestige and finance. I can see the cream of the crop choosing elsewhere to attend.

Also practically speaking, that means the elite colleges in blue states will now get even more competitive. Would the elite colleges in red states (specifically thinking of the Grinnells, Kenyons, Oberlins) know what is happening and give top students a bit more merit aid to attend?

Would it still be easy to turn down a Haverford at full pay (unless you are super wealthy) for Grinnell/Oberlin/Kenyon at say half price? Or what if your DD doesn't get into a Haverford or any of the other elite colleges in blue states and their options are now Grinnell with hefty merit aid or Gettysburg College?

What about professors? Will professors still want to live in red-states? Or let's be honest, there aren't that many openings at colleges in blue states. Those open positions will also now become competitive.

It is definitely something to think about. I'm not sure how it will play out in my household. Who knows, my DD may not even apply to schools in red states but if she likes those schools despite the fact that they are in red states/gets in with good merit and doesn't get into similarly good schools in blue states? It's a cost benefit analysis and we will definitely be making it.


This is the big one. Students are there for four years, professors have to relocate for decades, and their families go with them. The genuine elite of the academic world— the ones who can guarantee your student a good job or internship or lab placement right out of school— will be in Blue states.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 18:39     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would not pay for my daughter to attend school in a state where she could be left to die of an infection in an emergency room, nor for my son to go to school where a youthful error could lead to 18 years of child support payments.

But college students are adults and they could theoretically feel differently than I do, in which case they can pay for school themselves.


Just because abortion is legal in a state does not mean that unmarried women will be forced to get abortions. Your son's "youthful error" could lead to 18 years of child support payments if the woman he impregnates CHOOSES to keep the baby.


Yes I’m aware of that. But that’s the outcome of the choice of his sexual partner, not the outcome of a state directive.
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2022 16:27     Subject: Will colleges in pro-life states see declining enrolment post Dobbs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that appears to have happened in 2022 is more out of state college students registered to vote in their school location. The abortion decision emphasized to students that they spend most of 4 years under that state’s laws and jurisdiction so they need to vote there.


DS registered to vote in his red state locale. Many friends with DCs @ Michigan registered to vote there and kicked the GOP from my home state to the curb. Best morning for a long time was waking up to that news.


when I was in college back in the 90s, I went door to door in the dorms at my school in NC to try to register students to vote there. I think they have since tightened their laws about that, but I could be wrong.

I had registered in my homestate so that I could vote for our current President - I had volunteered on his Senate campaign that summer. I had to vote absentee my very first time - it felt anticlimactic, but I did it.