Anonymous
11/17/2022 22:42
Subject: New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Native Americans (currently grade 2) and Ancient China (currently grade 3) completely removed from elementary school.
Kind of scary.
American Indians are in K, 4th and 5th grade in these revised standards.
There's also no Mali.
I'm not super woke but the way they taught native Americans was so disturbing to me I'd prefer they not teach it at all. The stuff I heard during zoom school led to a lot of dinner table conversations!
You are an idiot
How in the world can the US not teach about Native Americans
Virginia you failed by electing YOUNGKIN the guy who doesn't think VA schools are good for his own kids!
I'm not an idiot. My kids were learning things like "the Indians were not as civilized as the people who came from England, so the people who came from England helped them and the Indians were grateful." This was two years ago so I am hazy on the specifics but it was about that offensive. Wouldn't you rather have your kids learn nothing than learn that?
I remember when one of mine brought home worksheets describing Pocahontas as a “princess” and glorifying John Smith. They are still teaching the Disney version of Native American history. It’s wrong but I wouldn’t count on Youngkin to fix it.
I have a 4th grader who came home last week and told us "the real story of Pocahontas is completely different from Disney. Did you X, Y, Z?" and I did not, in fact, know X, Y, and Z - so perhaps something has changed since you had a 4th grader. How old are your kids? 25?
Anonymous
11/17/2022 22:40
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“It’s just another attack on trying to make history what they want it to be," said James Fedderman, President of the Virginia Education Association.
In the 53-page document, policies outline what and when certain subjects are taught to Virginia students. Many difficult topics such as lynching would not be taught until 6th grade, and Christopher Columbus' role in the slave trade by 11th grade.
"There is also a removal of content of Martin Luther King Jr from the K-5 standards, no mention of Juneteenth, removal of content of LGBTQ+ histories," Fedderman said.
Speaking as a former Texan, there's really no reason that Virginian grade schoolers need to learn anything about Juneteenth. Ftr, MLK is in the 6th grade standard.
Agree. Juneteenth is part of Texas history.
It is a federal holiday now, sweetie.
Anonymous
11/17/2022 22:39
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:Is it true that they left out MLK?
Yes, Any mention of MLK is being removed in every grade but kindergarten.
Anonymous
11/17/2022 22:38
Subject: New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I realize this is somewhat off topic, but when/how does VA (specifically APS) teach the Holocaust? My kids religious school teaches it at the same time as DCPS, so just wondering if my kids will learn it first at school or temple.
7th grade
Why so late? I learned about the holocaust in 4th grade.
Anonymous
11/17/2022 22:22
Subject: New Virginia social studies standards
What happened with the vote today?
Anonymous
11/17/2022 21:33
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“It’s just another attack on trying to make history what they want it to be," said James Fedderman, President of the Virginia Education Association.
In the 53-page document, policies outline what and when certain subjects are taught to Virginia students. Many difficult topics such as lynching would not be taught until 6th grade, and Christopher Columbus' role in the slave trade by 11th grade.
"There is also a removal of content of Martin Luther King Jr from the K-5 standards, no mention of Juneteenth, removal of content of LGBTQ+ histories," Fedderman said.
Speaking as a former Texan, there's really no reason that Virginian grade schoolers need to learn anything about Juneteenth. Ftr, MLK is in the 6th grade standard.
Agree. Juneteenth is part of Texas history.
Black folks in 49 other states and 1 federal city might disagree on that, but again that’s the whitewashing of history.
You really don't know much about Juneteenth, do you?
NP, here. No actually I don't. Because despite an American K-12 education that included APUSH and majoring in history at a very well known college, I never learned out Juneteenth in school. I'd like my kids to learn about it at least.
Anonymous
11/17/2022 15:03
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:The partisan hyper-ventilating on the part of the local Democrats is not a good look and tells me they are worried about next year’s local and state elections. Kids obviously will still learn about MLK.
When you’re elected with a fake fear campaign about CRT, can you really blame people for being skeptical he’s doing POC justice?
Anonymous
11/17/2022 14:55
Subject: New Virginia social studies standards
They went from a 48 page document under the previous standards to a 53 page document, where previously that had a 500 page document that combined learning and curriculum.
This is the source of 'XXX was removed.'
This is the source of 'XXX was removed.'
Anonymous
11/17/2022 10:30
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The partisan hyper-ventilating on the part of the local Democrats is not a good look and tells me they are worried about next year’s local and state elections. Kids obviously will still learn about MLK.
I think this is an automatic response just because. It seems like this draft of standards has very little that is actually that really raised concern and were reasonable.
I guess historical accuracy isn't important to you, then? Zachary Taylor wasn't the most recent president from Virginia. And the capitol of Virginia was moved to Richmond, not Williamsburg. Should cause concern for what other inaccuracies may follow in the instructional framework yet to be released.
It's not worry about the next elections. It's worry about the education of our future leaders.
Anonymous
11/17/2022 10:12
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:The partisan hyper-ventilating on the part of the local Democrats is not a good look and tells me they are worried about next year’s local and state elections. Kids obviously will still learn about MLK.
I think this is an automatic response just because. It seems like this draft of standards has very little that is actually that really raised concern and were reasonable.
Anonymous
11/17/2022 09:01
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“It’s just another attack on trying to make history what they want it to be," said James Fedderman, President of the Virginia Education Association.
In the 53-page document, policies outline what and when certain subjects are taught to Virginia students. Many difficult topics such as lynching would not be taught until 6th grade, and Christopher Columbus' role in the slave trade by 11th grade.
"There is also a removal of content of Martin Luther King Jr from the K-5 standards, no mention of Juneteenth, removal of content of LGBTQ+ histories," Fedderman said.
Speaking as a former Texan, there's really no reason that Virginian grade schoolers need to learn anything about Juneteenth. Ftr, MLK is in the 6th grade standard.
Agree. Juneteenth is part of Texas history.
It’s a federal holiday. Of course they should learn about it before sixth grade.
Yes, because Labor Day gets such extensive coverage in the K-5 curricula nationwide.
I'm all for teaching kids more about the history of labor in the U.S.
I'm all for teaching a lot of things that aren't taught. But there are only so many hours in the day. And canceling school every day that there's a quarter inch of flurries doesn't help.
Anonymous
11/17/2022 08:49
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
The partisan hyper-ventilating on the part of the local Democrats is not a good look and tells me they are worried about next year’s local and state elections. Kids obviously will still learn about MLK.
Anonymous
11/17/2022 08:39
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“It’s just another attack on trying to make history what they want it to be," said James Fedderman, President of the Virginia Education Association.
In the 53-page document, policies outline what and when certain subjects are taught to Virginia students. Many difficult topics such as lynching would not be taught until 6th grade, and Christopher Columbus' role in the slave trade by 11th grade.
"There is also a removal of content of Martin Luther King Jr from the K-5 standards, no mention of Juneteenth, removal of content of LGBTQ+ histories," Fedderman said.
Speaking as a former Texan, there's really no reason that Virginian grade schoolers need to learn anything about Juneteenth. Ftr, MLK is in the 6th grade standard.
Agree. Juneteenth is part of Texas history.
It’s a federal holiday. Of course they should learn about it before sixth grade.
Yes, because Labor Day gets such extensive coverage in the K-5 curricula nationwide.
I'm all for teaching kids more about the history of labor in the U.S.
Anonymous
11/17/2022 08:31
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:My children always came home with papers and worksheets regarding MLK in lower elementary school levels. Especially during February (Black History month). Is this being removed? Or is this not a Standard? If it’s being removed there is an issue.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it true that they left out MLK?
He's in grade 6.
It's not being removed.
Anonymous
11/17/2022 08:30
Subject: Re:New Virginia social studies standards
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“It’s just another attack on trying to make history what they want it to be," said James Fedderman, President of the Virginia Education Association.
In the 53-page document, policies outline what and when certain subjects are taught to Virginia students. Many difficult topics such as lynching would not be taught until 6th grade, and Christopher Columbus' role in the slave trade by 11th grade.
"There is also a removal of content of Martin Luther King Jr from the K-5 standards, no mention of Juneteenth, removal of content of LGBTQ+ histories," Fedderman said.
Speaking as a former Texan, there's really no reason that Virginian grade schoolers need to learn anything about Juneteenth. Ftr, MLK is in the 6th grade standard.
Agree. Juneteenth is part of Texas history.
It’s a federal holiday. Of course they should learn about it before sixth grade.
Yes, because Labor Day gets such extensive coverage in the K-5 curricula nationwide.