Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 14:33     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


Absurd. You are wrong. Georgetown Prep absolutely is an ivy feeder. Don't take my word for it though. See for yourself:

https://www.gprep.org/academics/college-counseling
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 14:26     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


This. My son chose ND over an ivy.


But was he accepted to an IVY? Or do you mean he chose to apply to ND?
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 13:49     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


This. My son chose ND over an ivy.


I think this type of decision will take place more and more frequently as the reputation of the Ivies for "wokeness" and intolerance for other views spreads.

Besides, the whole Ivy League admission system is under intensifying attack. They aren't going to be able to use Race soon. And then legacy will fall and maybe even athletic prowless.


Can you help me understand how this will be enforced? I haven’t been super tuned in on scotus review. Even if it’s ruled you can’t use race for AA, how can anyone force a private school not to take into account relative factors (like “unofficially” scoring a minority higher on an interview and making that interview count more than GPA and standardized testing)? Aren’t there still ways to incorporate advantages to qualified URMs?
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 13:30     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


This. My son chose ND over an ivy.


I think this type of decision will take place more and more frequently as the reputation of the Ivies for "wokeness" and intolerance for other views spreads.

Besides, the whole Ivy League admission system is under intensifying attack. They aren't going to be able to use Race soon. And then legacy will fall and maybe even athletic prowless.


Your post makes it seem like this is the exception and will become more common, but it isn't the exception, especially if you come from a family with traditions at ND, BC, Villanova, Holy Cross, etc., ivies are not on your interest radar. Not universal, of course. It may actually start to trend the other way. The Catholic centers at some of the Ivies are becoming more robust, but most of those are recent investments by those schools to attract Catholic students (Brown opened a new one in 2021, the Acquinas Institute at Princeton just got a permanent building, Harvard's Catholic community is off campus at St. Paul's but the graduate schools have Catholic ministries now, etc.).


I am not so sure those centers will be the tipping point to attract more Catholic students. Many of these Catholic applicants are looking more for a mindset and traditions that are associated with specific schools. Notre Dame and making the world a better place plus a fun football tradition. BC with its Jesuit roots of being a person for others. And both of these schools have a tolerance of dissenting views from the extreme left leaning positions that the student bodies tend to embrace. My son specifically felt that ND was an easier place to experiment with different positions and not feel ostracized. Brown was on his radar during the application process and he ended up crossing it off because of its woke ideologies. He didn't use that word...I think he said something like "political correctness." Anyway, you get the idea.



I do agree, but the schools do seem to be making an effort anyway.


I doubt they’d be making the effort if they weren’t aware of the problem on a significant scale.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 12:39     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


This. My son chose ND over an ivy.


I think this type of decision will take place more and more frequently as the reputation of the Ivies for "wokeness" and intolerance for other views spreads.

Besides, the whole Ivy League admission system is under intensifying attack. They aren't going to be able to use Race soon. And then legacy will fall and maybe even athletic prowless.


Your post makes it seem like this is the exception and will become more common, but it isn't the exception, especially if you come from a family with traditions at ND, BC, Villanova, Holy Cross, etc., ivies are not on your interest radar. Not universal, of course. It may actually start to trend the other way. The Catholic centers at some of the Ivies are becoming more robust, but most of those are recent investments by those schools to attract Catholic students (Brown opened a new one in 2021, the Acquinas Institute at Princeton just got a permanent building, Harvard's Catholic community is off campus at St. Paul's but the graduate schools have Catholic ministries now, etc.).


I am not so sure those centers will be the tipping point to attract more Catholic students. Many of these Catholic applicants are looking more for a mindset and traditions that are associated with specific schools. Notre Dame and making the world a better place plus a fun football tradition. BC with its Jesuit roots of being a person for others. And both of these schools have a tolerance of dissenting views from the extreme left leaning positions that the student bodies tend to embrace. My son specifically felt that ND was an easier place to experiment with different positions and not feel ostracized. Brown was on his radar during the application process and he ended up crossing it off because of its woke ideologies. He didn't use that word...I think he said something like "political correctness." Anyway, you get the idea.



I do agree, but the schools do seem to be making an effort anyway.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 12:29     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


This. My son chose ND over an ivy.


I think this type of decision will take place more and more frequently as the reputation of the Ivies for "wokeness" and intolerance for other views spreads.

Besides, the whole Ivy League admission system is under intensifying attack. They aren't going to be able to use Race soon. And then legacy will fall and maybe even athletic prowless.


Your post makes it seem like this is the exception and will become more common, but it isn't the exception, especially if you come from a family with traditions at ND, BC, Villanova, Holy Cross, etc., ivies are not on your interest radar. Not universal, of course. It may actually start to trend the other way. The Catholic centers at some of the Ivies are becoming more robust, but most of those are recent investments by those schools to attract Catholic students (Brown opened a new one in 2021, the Acquinas Institute at Princeton just got a permanent building, Harvard's Catholic community is off campus at St. Paul's but the graduate schools have Catholic ministries now, etc.).


I am not so sure those centers will be the tipping point to attract more Catholic students. Many of these Catholic applicants are looking more for a mindset and traditions that are associated with specific schools. Notre Dame and making the world a better place plus a fun football tradition. BC with its Jesuit roots of being a person for others. And both of these schools have a tolerance of dissenting views from the extreme left leaning positions that the student bodies tend to embrace. My son specifically felt that ND was an easier place to experiment with different positions and not feel ostracized. Brown was on his radar during the application process and he ended up crossing it off because of its woke ideologies. He didn't use that word...I think he said something like "political correctness." Anyway, you get the idea.


Keep in mind, also, that top, non-hooked applicants are increasingly recognizing that an SCEA application to HYPS is downright futile. (It is no coincidence that these schools have recently become less transparent in revealing their admissions statistics.) Why waste an early application on Harvard and taint your application process to other schools? Practically speaking, the decision point means applying ED to a “lesser” Ivy (or an admit won’t happen) or keeping your options open by applying EA to both Notre Dame and Georgetown (neither have ED). You can see how the Notre Dame and Georgetown option, which still allows for a student to choose an RD school, makes a lot more sense.
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Post 11/11/2022 12:12     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

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Post 11/11/2022 12:04     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


This. My son chose ND over an ivy.


I think this type of decision will take place more and more frequently as the reputation of the Ivies for "wokeness" and intolerance for other views spreads.

Besides, the whole Ivy League admission system is under intensifying attack. They aren't going to be able to use Race soon. And then legacy will fall and maybe even athletic prowless.


Your post makes it seem like this is the exception and will become more common, but it isn't the exception, especially if you come from a family with traditions at ND, BC, Villanova, Holy Cross, etc., ivies are not on your interest radar. Not universal, of course. It may actually start to trend the other way. The Catholic centers at some of the Ivies are becoming more robust, but most of those are recent investments by those schools to attract Catholic students (Brown opened a new one in 2021, the Acquinas Institute at Princeton just got a permanent building, Harvard's Catholic community is off campus at St. Paul's but the graduate schools have Catholic ministries now, etc.).


I am not so sure those centers will be the tipping point to attract more Catholic students. Many of these Catholic applicants are looking more for a mindset and traditions that are associated with specific schools. Notre Dame and making the world a better place plus a fun football tradition. BC with its Jesuit roots of being a person for others. And both of these schools have a tolerance of dissenting views from the extreme left leaning positions that the student bodies tend to embrace. My son specifically felt that ND was an easier place to experiment with different positions and not feel ostracized. Brown was on his radar during the application process and he ended up crossing it off because of its woke ideologies. He didn't use that word...I think he said something like "political correctness." Anyway, you get the idea.

Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 12:00     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


This. My son chose ND over an ivy.

Agree. Most kids in these schools would take Notre Dame over a lesser Ivy in a heartbeat — as well they should.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 11:47     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


This. My son chose ND over an ivy.


I think this type of decision will take place more and more frequently as the reputation of the Ivies for "wokeness" and intolerance for other views spreads.

Besides, the whole Ivy League admission system is under intensifying attack. They aren't going to be able to use Race soon. And then legacy will fall and maybe even athletic prowless.


Your post makes it seem like this is the exception and will become more common, but it isn't the exception, especially if you come from a family with traditions at ND, BC, Villanova, Holy Cross, etc., ivies are not on your interest radar. Not universal, of course. It may actually start to trend the other way. The Catholic centers at some of the Ivies are becoming more robust, but most of those are recent investments by those schools to attract Catholic students (Brown opened a new one in 2021, the Acquinas Institute at Princeton just got a permanent building, Harvard's Catholic community is off campus at St. Paul's but the graduate schools have Catholic ministries now, etc.).
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 11:26     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


This. My son chose ND over an ivy.


I think this type of decision will take place more and more frequently as the reputation of the Ivies for "wokeness" and intolerance for other views spreads.

Besides, the whole Ivy League admission system is under intensifying attack. They aren't going to be able to use Race soon. And then legacy will fall and maybe even athletic prowless.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 10:14     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the Heights school an ivy feeder?



None of these Catholic schools are Ivy “feeders”. They usually send a few kids to Ivy League schools and many of them are recruited athletes.

Catholic high schools have an advantage at Catholic colleges. They have established relationships with these schools and long histories. It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Jesuit colleges like Georgetown and BC view the applications of students from Jesuit high schools favorably.

And Catholic families are connected to Catholic universities and will frequently choose them over Ivies because of this relationship/ tradition.


This. My son chose ND over an ivy.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 10:12     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I agree with PP that there is no need for this type ranking. Chose the best ‘fit’ for DC and your family.

We have friends at most of these schools. Everyone is content with their choice.

I agree that this ranking is silly: there is a big 3 because it cannot reasonably be said that any of the 3 is better than another. That has never been true for the Catholic schoools in the DC area: one pretty much has always stood alone — and that’s St. Anselm’s.


LOL
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 09:44     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

Anonymous wrote:I agree with PP that there is no need for this type ranking. Chose the best ‘fit’ for DC and your family.

We have friends at most of these schools. Everyone is content with their choice.

I agree that this ranking is silly: there is a big 3 because it cannot reasonably be said that any of the 3 is better than another. That has never been true for the Catholic schoools in the DC area: one pretty much has always stood alone — and that’s St. Anselm’s.
Anonymous
Post 11/11/2022 09:16     Subject: Re:What are the Greater DC "Big 3" Catholic Schools?

It would probably be the richest schools.

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