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Anonymous wrote:I LOVE the pledge of allegiance. Reciting it shows loyalty and patriotism to the United States of America. If you don’t want to recite it. Then don’t. I am proud to be an American. That’s why I live in the United States. You are free to move to another country if you don’t like it here.

+ one million. I'm making sure my child understand how to be a true patriot...to understand that the Pledge is not to a dictator, monarch, or party but to the flag that represents America. We teach them ALL of American history; the bad but also the good. It's weird that some people solely focus on America's faults; the philosophical equivalent to first world problems.

True patriotism has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not someone says the pledge of allegiance. I am free to both live in the US, where I was born, and not say the Pledge.

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Anonymous wrote:What did you want to say?

Who cares?

Also what does race have to do with it?

I want them to recite the Pledge, I was the only one in the classroom that did.

Um, it's their choice. I don't even say it. Frankly, it's pretty creepy.

it’s not creepy! Many countries recite a basic pledge to their country. Show some allegiance.

Like North Korea?

I find it very reminiscent of the Nazis.

I don't know of any country that makes kids pledge allegiance on a regular basis.

Anonymous wrote:So freedom loving Americans stop loving freedom when it comes to my freedom to abstain from reciting the pledge? I see how your freedom works…

"The case is made difficult not because the principles of its decision are obscure but because the flag involved is our own. Nevertheless, we apply the limitations of the Constitution with no fear that freedom to be intellectually and spiritually diverse or even contrary will disintegrate the social organization. To believe that patriotism will not flourish if patriotic ceremonies are voluntary and spontaneous instead of a compulsory routine is to make an unflattering estimate of the appeal of our institutions to free minds. We can have intellectual individualism and the rich cultural diversities that we owe to exceptional minds only at the price of occasional eccentricity and abnormal attitudes. When they are so harmless to others or to the State as those we deal with here, the price is not too great. But freedom to differ is not limited to things that do not matter much. That would be a mere shadow of freedom. The test of its substance is the right to differ as to things that touch the heart of the existing order.

If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein. If there are any circumstances which permit an exception, they do not now occur to us."

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943)

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Anonymous wrote:What did you want to say?

Who cares?

Also what does race have to do with it?

I want them to recite the Pledge, I was the only one in the classroom that did.

Um, it's their choice. I don't even say it. Frankly, it's pretty creepy.

it’s not creepy! Many countries recite a basic pledge to their country. Show some allegiance.

Like North Korea?

I find it very reminiscent of the Nazis.

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Anonymous wrote:I LOVE the pledge of allegiance. Reciting it shows loyalty and patriotism to the United States of America. If you don’t want to recite it. Then don’t. I am proud to be an American. That’s why I live in the United States. You are free to move to another country if you don’t like it here.

+ one million. I'm making sure my child understand how to be a true patriot...to understand that the Pledge is not to a dictator, monarch, or party but to the flag that represents America. We teach them ALL of American history; the bad but also the good. It's weird that some people solely focus on America's faults; the philosophical equivalent to first world problems.

The whole point of teaching the faults is so that THE GOOD can be available to everyone. Not just white men.

Anonymous wrote:I LOVE the pledge of allegiance. Reciting it shows loyalty and patriotism to the United States of America. If you don’t want to recite it. Then don’t. I am proud to be an American. That’s why I live in the United States. You are free to move to another country if you don’t like it here.

You were born here by dumb luck. Don't get it twisted that you are somehow better than the rest of the world.

e Pledge of Allegiance a controversial subject.

A school can teach the full body of US Government without requiring children to pledge their allegiance to anything.

For those who are anti-socialist anti-communism, the foundation of the US Pledge of Allegiance came from a socialist in 1923 and encouraged by communist regimes as a chant for children. Eisenhower modified it, yadda yadda yadda, read more here:

https://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm

Glad kids aren't forced to endure this daily prayer anymore, as that is what it is.

Carry on.

All y’all Pledge fanatics oughta look up the guy who wrote it originally. I’m sure you’ll love him and his views lol.

i am a teacher and i think its strange to make kids do it. i have several students who are not us citizens and i would never enforce them saying them pledge. weird.

I went to a private high school where they played the pledge and the Lord's prayer every morning and even there we weren't required to stand and few did.

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Anonymous wrote:I sub too OP but in mostly white, UMC public schools. No one says the pledge past elementary school. Its not "cool."

Um, I am a teacher in a 90+% FARM with 90+% COC, and we all stand and recite the pledge while holding our hands over our hearts. Everyone stands and recites voluntarily when the principal comes over the loudspeaker. I don't even need to prompt my students.

In high school? BS. Stand yes. Recite the pledge with hand on heart? Not buying it.

a few weeks after 9/11 everyone did it, I am teacher and I don't even say it, I just look down...

Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:I sub too OP but in mostly white, UMC public schools. No one says the pledge past elementary school. Its not "cool."

Um, I am a teacher in a 90+% FARM with 90+% COC, and we all stand and recite the pledge while holding our hands over our hearts. Everyone stands and recites voluntarily when the principal comes over the loudspeaker. I don't even need to prompt my students.

In high school? BS. Stand yes. Recite the pledge with hand on heart? Not buying it.

a few weeks after 9/11 everyone did it, I am teacher and I don't even say it, I just look down...

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Anonymous wrote:I sub too OP but in mostly white, UMC public schools. No one says the pledge past elementary school. Its not "cool."

Um, I am a teacher in a 90+% FARM with 90+% COC, and we all stand and recite the pledge while holding our hands over our hearts. Everyone stands and recites voluntarily when the principal comes over the loudspeaker. I don't even need to prompt my students.

In high school? BS. Stand yes. Recite the pledge with hand on heart? Not buying it.

Anonymous wrote:I sub too OP but in mostly white, UMC public schools. No one says the pledge past elementary school. Its not "cool."

Um, I am a teacher in a 90+% FARM with 90+% COC, and we all stand and recite the pledge while holding our hands over our hearts. Everyone stands and recites voluntarily when the principal comes over the loudspeaker. I don't even need to prompt my students.

Anonymous wrote:I like the Pledge and National Anthem. It’s great to have traditions. Nothing wrong. We should act more unifying as a nation. Kids do get lazy and tired in high school but then come around as adults with kids again.

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