Who cares about graduate schools from foreign perspective

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Anonymous wrote:Oxford is number one. Again.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2023/world-ranking

Times Higher Education is known to be biased towards UK schools since it's a UK-based publication. No one believes Oxford is greater than Harvard anymore, it just isn't. Also, what is likely more relevant for us is their US Undergraduate Rankings which they also have.

Oxford and Cambridge are years ahead of any US school. But you don't know it, which is fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective of someone who attended international schools in the Middle East and Southeast Asia.

Tier 1: HYPSM, Oxford, Cambridge

Tier 2: Columbia, Chicago, Duke, Wharton

Tier 3: Northwestern, Cornell, UPenn, Caltech (suffers from complete lack of name recognition but otherwise would be Tier 2)

Tier 4: Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins

Tier 5 and below: Imperial, UCL, LSE, NYU, etc.

How did Duke get so popular around the world so quickly? When I was growing up I just knew I didn't want Duke basketball to win anything and no one said anything about it being a good school. Of course now I know it's a world-class university that's better than most of the ivy league schools, but I seriously wonder what happened between my childhood and now.

When you open up a collaborative university in PRC (Duke Kunshan) your world recognition is bound to rise.

Smart investment by them, seeing that China is the next big market. Parents, now is a good time to get your kids into Duke before it gets flooded by international students.

You must be naïve or incredibly stupid, no investment with the PRC is a "smart" investment. Unless you have been under a rock for the last 3 years you might want to sit this one out.

I think you’re naive if you don’t think PRC is going to be a peer to the US in many facets. Its downside is its style of governance and censorship but schools like Duke Kunshan help create pockets of openness inside China.

Get informed...The PRC is already a near peer and in all of the worst ways. Creating pockets of openness inside of the PRC is not an issue because everything that is allowed is for manipulation and PRC gain. If this has to be explained to you than you have no clue of the "higher" level issues with the PRC. Just see the BRI and everything connected to it. The PRC is not a place we should invest in, it is a place we should avoid but you do you.

There are two different conversations going on. One person is talking about what’s smart for Duke, which investing in building relations with China definitely is to grow their brand and influence. The other is talking about some potential moral issues with the CCP. The second person is probably a back-office gov worker who I’m glad does not make decisions for my DC’s university. Not that it’s as good as Duke anyways.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective of someone who attended international schools in the Middle East and Southeast Asia.

Tier 1: HYPSM, Oxford, Cambridge

Tier 2: Columbia, Chicago, Duke, Wharton

Tier 3: Northwestern, Cornell, UPenn, Caltech (suffers from complete lack of name recognition but otherwise would be Tier 2)

Tier 4: Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins

Tier 5 and below: Imperial, UCL, LSE, NYU, etc.

How did Duke get so popular around the world so quickly? When I was growing up I just knew I didn't want Duke basketball to win anything and no one said anything about it being a good school. Of course now I know it's a world-class university that's better than most of the ivy league schools, but I seriously wonder what happened between my childhood and now.

When you open up a collaborative university in PRC (Duke Kunshan) your world recognition is bound to rise.

Smart investment by them, seeing that China is the next big market. Parents, now is a good time to get your kids into Duke before it gets flooded by international students.

You must be naïve or incredibly stupid, no investment with the PRC is a "smart" investment. Unless you have been under a rock for the last 3 years you might want to sit this one out.

I think you’re naive if you don’t think PRC is going to be a peer to the US in many facets. Its downside is its style of governance and censorship but schools like Duke Kunshan help create pockets of openness inside China.

Get informed...The PRC is already a near peer and in all of the worst ways. Creating pockets of openness inside of the PRC is not an issue because everything that is allowed is for manipulation and PRC gain. If this has to be explained to you than you have no clue of the "higher" level issues with the PRC. Just see the BRI and everything connected to it. The PRC is not a place we should invest in, it is a place we should avoid but you do you.

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Anonymous wrote:The publics of Berkeley, UCLA, and Michigan are all in the same tier.

Domestically that's true, but internationally Berkeley and UCLA have much greater recognition.

Among the uneducated perhaps, in Academia no…

That's actually very true. The reason Berkeley and UCLA became hot with the Chinese is because it's more accessible by air and because a large Chinese immigrant community started in the port cities of L.A. and San Francisco (see The Joy Luck Club). Also many Chinese men left China to work on the railroads here and ended up in cities where the terminals ended. Hence, Berkeley and UCLA became more accessible and once a few students got in, word spread, and now those schools are seen as the top schools to get into from China. It's all about community and language support.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective of someone who attended international schools in the Middle East and Southeast Asia.

Tier 1: HYPSM, Oxford, Cambridge

Tier 2: Columbia, Chicago, Duke, Wharton

Tier 3: Northwestern, Cornell, UPenn, Caltech (suffers from complete lack of name recognition but otherwise would be Tier 2)

Tier 4: Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins

Tier 5 and below: Imperial, UCL, LSE, NYU, etc.

How did Duke get so popular around the world so quickly? When I was growing up I just knew I didn't want Duke basketball to win anything and no one said anything about it being a good school. Of course now I know it's a world-class university that's better than most of the ivy league schools, but I seriously wonder what happened between my childhood and now.

When you open up a collaborative university in PRC (Duke Kunshan) your world recognition is bound to rise.

Smart investment by them, seeing that China is the next big market. Parents, now is a good time to get your kids into Duke before it gets flooded by international students.

You must be naïve or incredibly stupid, no investment with the PRC is a "smart" investment. Unless you have been under a rock for the last 3 years you might want to sit this one out.

I think you’re naive if you don’t think PRC is going to be a peer to the US in many facets. Its downside is its style of governance and censorship but schools like Duke Kunshan help create pockets of openness inside China.

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Anonymous wrote:Oxford is number one. Again.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2023/world-ranking

Times Higher Education is known to be biased towards UK schools since it's a UK-based publication. No one believes Oxford is greater than Harvard anymore, it just isn't. Also, what is likely more relevant for us is their US Undergraduate Rankings which they also have.

Strongly disagree. I went to Harvard. DD is at Oxford

I am sorry your daughter could not get into Harvard.

LOL. Will be applying to the law school in a year.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective of someone who attended international schools in the Middle East and Southeast Asia.

Tier 1: HYPSM, Oxford, Cambridge

Tier 2: Columbia, Chicago, Duke, Wharton

Tier 3: Northwestern, Cornell, UPenn, Caltech (suffers from complete lack of name recognition but otherwise would be Tier 2)

Tier 4: Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins

Tier 5 and below: Imperial, UCL, LSE, NYU, etc.

How did Duke get so popular around the world so quickly? When I was growing up I just knew I didn't want Duke basketball to win anything and no one said anything about it being a good school. Of course now I know it's a world-class university that's better than most of the ivy league schools, but I seriously wonder what happened between my childhood and now.

When you open up a collaborative university in PRC (Duke Kunshan) your world recognition is bound to rise.

Smart investment by them, seeing that China is the next big market. Parents, now is a good time to get your kids into Duke before it gets flooded by international students.

You must be naïve or incredibly stupid, no investment with the PRC is a "smart" investment. Unless you have been under a rock for the last 3 years you might want to sit this one out.

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Anonymous wrote:The publics of Berkeley, UCLA, and Michigan are all in the same tier.

Domestically that's true, but internationally Berkeley and UCLA have much greater recognition.

Bolded comment was meant to be a dig on UVA.

Why? Because it wasn't mentioned? Lots of public schools weren't mentioned.

LOL, you must be new here.

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Anonymous wrote:Perspective of someone who attended international schools in the Middle East and Southeast Asia.

Tier 1: HYPSM, Oxford, Cambridge

Tier 2: Columbia, Chicago, Duke, Wharton

Tier 3: Northwestern, Cornell, UPenn, Caltech (suffers from complete lack of name recognition but otherwise would be Tier 2)

Tier 4: Brown, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins

Tier 5 and below: Imperial, UCL, LSE, NYU, etc.

How did Duke get so popular around the world so quickly? When I was growing up I just knew I didn't want Duke basketball to win anything and no one said anything about it being a good school. Of course now I know it's a world-class university that's better than most of the ivy league schools, but I seriously wonder what happened between my childhood and now.

When you open up a collaborative university in PRC (Duke Kunshan) your world recognition is bound to rise.

Smart investment by them, seeing that China is the next big market. Parents, now is a good time to get your kids into Duke before it gets flooded by international students.

Duke's grad programs are already flooded by international students. The MBA program would be in serious trouble without int'l students. Duke also has one year masters programs in finance/management/business which primarily serve international students.