Anonymous wrote:From another post, the college tiers:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Generally agree but would move Rice and maybe Hopkins/Vanderbilt higher.

Anonymous wrote:This tier breakdown is more accurate:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago

2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Better job!

Anonymous wrote:From another post, the college tiers:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Good job!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a ranking of undergraduate international studies programs. https://www.collegefactual.com/majors/social-sciences/international-relations-national-security/rankings/top-ranked/bachelors-degrees/

Salary looks shitty for this major

It's generally very low but if selected into the U.S. foreign service or State Department, it can be decent as it follows the federal salary scale.

I was an international studies major at Hopkins who went to a T6 law school immediately after graduating. Several of my Hopkins classmates were at the same law school.

This tier breakdown is more accurate:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago

2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From another post, the college tiers:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Bad tiers.

I found the tiers to be spot on, what would you change?

Anonymous wrote:From another post, the college tiers:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

This is a great breakdown. Nice to see Hamilton getting some recognition. I agree that those nine tier 1 schools are basically the cream of the crop in attracting the best students.

Anonymous wrote:From another post, the college tiers:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Bad tiers.

Anonymous wrote:Do students go there for anything but bio or pre-med? The preferred majors are so biology heavy.

That's like saying that people only go to U.Penn for business. Obviously there are other strong programs, and the non-premed people I have met from Johns Hopkins have been extremely successful. They tell me that because there is such a focus on premed, classes in other fields tend to be small and have excellent professors (and decent grade curves).

On the other hand, you want nothing to do with the premeds because they are ultra-competitive, insecure desperate people who morally justify cheating on a grand scale.

I mean, sure, there's crime just like every other school that's in a big city.

The fact that other schools are located in urban cesspools is not a good reason to attend this school that’s in an urban cesspool.

Anonymous wrote:From another post, the college tiers:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

+1 this is reasonable. It still shows Hopkins is very desirable, but probably not as much as the ivy league schools or Stanford, Duke, MIT, etc. For pre-med it probably becomes more desirable too.

From another post, the college tiers:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a ranking of undergraduate international studies programs. https://www.collegefactual.com/majors/social-sciences/international-relations-national-security/rankings/top-ranked/bachelors-degrees/

Salary looks shitty for this major

It's generally very low but if selected into the U.S. foreign service or State Department, it can be decent as it follows the federal salary scale.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I never hear anyone mention it any more. I know that it is still a very fine school (and two of my siblings went there) -- but are kids less interested? Or is it just my kid's friends who aren't interested?

It just feels like a pre-med school

+1. Great for pre-med, mid for almost everything else.

Like anything with "neuro" in it....

Anonymous wrote:Is jhu heavily international?

The college looks to be ten percent but some of the graduate programs are higher, the business school in particular.