Anonymous
Post 10/12/2022 10:29     Subject: Re:child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Based on your description, I'm assuming that the CCD teacher has asserted that she will not enforce her views regarding abortion on others. That's not against Catholic teaching. Anyone who says differently is a liar. The liar is the one committing a sin by lying.


It is a mortal sin to advocate for abortion.


Saying that you will not enforce your views on others is not advocating.


Yes it is. It is advocating for legal abortion. "Not enforcing your views on abortion" is the same as advocating for legal abortion.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2022 10:25     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought Catholics were always claiming that their faith is a big tent, that not everyone had the same right wing fire breathing politics and beliefs? No?


It is a pretty big tent. It seems like OP is standing in the rightmost corner of it, complaining it’s too crowded and that the people in the leftmost corner should get out so they don’t infect her kid.


I’m PP and I guess I should add I can’t really blame her because I’m in the leftmost corner complaining that I don’t want the people on the other side infecting my kid with what I think are exclusionary and misogynistic views. But rather than kick others out of the tent, I think I’m just going to crawl out under the side wall.


So you make the statement “I thought Catholics were always claiming” as if you’re an outsider, and then you say you’re leaving Catholicism. Uh huh.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2022 21:56     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought Catholics were always claiming that their faith is a big tent, that not everyone had the same right wing fire breathing politics and beliefs? No?


It is a pretty big tent. It seems like OP is standing in the rightmost corner of it, complaining it’s too crowded and that the people in the leftmost corner should get out so they don’t infect her kid.


I’m PP and I guess I should add I can’t really blame her because I’m in the leftmost corner complaining that I don’t want the people on the other side infecting my kid with what I think are exclusionary and misogynistic views. But rather than kick others out of the tent, I think I’m just going to crawl out under the side wall.


So the anonymous OP of this thread, who is probably a troll, is enough to make you lose your religion?

I think that the views espoused by the OP, whether troll or not, are enough to drive sane people out of the church. The PP who’s planning on going out under the wall has probably experienced enough people IRL like OP and her patience might be wearing thin with it.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2022 17:50     Subject: Re:child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:So don’t send your kid to CCD class that day that they teach what abortion is.


I am certain that this is not a topic in my kids' CCD. It is only a topic in politics.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2022 17:48     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought Catholics were always claiming that their faith is a big tent, that not everyone had the same right wing fire breathing politics and beliefs? No?


It is a pretty big tent. It seems like OP is standing in the rightmost corner of it, complaining it’s too crowded and that the people in the leftmost corner should get out so they don’t infect her kid.


I’m PP and I guess I should add I can’t really blame her because I’m in the leftmost corner complaining that I don’t want the people on the other side infecting my kid with what I think are exclusionary and misogynistic views. But rather than kick others out of the tent, I think I’m just going to crawl out under the side wall.


So the anonymous OP of this thread, who is probably a troll, is enough to make you lose your religion?
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2022 17:37     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought Catholics were always claiming that their faith is a big tent, that not everyone had the same right wing fire breathing politics and beliefs? No?


It is a pretty big tent. It seems like OP is standing in the rightmost corner of it, complaining it’s too crowded and that the people in the leftmost corner should get out so they don’t infect her kid.


I’m PP and I guess I should add I can’t really blame her because I’m in the leftmost corner complaining that I don’t want the people on the other side infecting my kid with what I think are exclusionary and misogynistic views. But rather than kick others out of the tent, I think I’m just going to crawl out under the side wall.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2022 17:30     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:I thought Catholics were always claiming that their faith is a big tent, that not everyone had the same right wing fire breathing politics and beliefs? No?


It is a pretty big tent. It seems like OP is standing in the rightmost corner of it, complaining it’s too crowded and that the people in the leftmost corner should get out so they don’t infect her kid.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2022 17:18     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
I thought Catholics were always claiming that their faith is a big tent, that not everyone had the same right wing fire breathing politics and beliefs? No?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2022 15:42     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP give us an example? Abortion? Political?


I'm guessing abortion. Don't understand why OP wouldn't just be clear about it. Everyone knows the Catholic church's stance on it and everyone knows that a lot a Catholics don't pay any attention to it in their personal lives.


Or that gay people are not an abomination


Didn't the Pope come out a few years back and say it's OK to love our gay children? Hate the sin, not the sinner and all that?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2022 15:40     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely not OK. I would contact the Bishop asap. If I want to indoctrinate my child, I have to make sure they are insulated completely from contrary opinions. I can't risk them figuring out truth on their own, or, gasp, using critical thinking skills. Hard pass. Only those people completely aligned with all my own opinions have the privilege of teaching my children. And it's especially crucial that they be taught that doctrine is not to be questioned. In fact, it's so bad it's called heresy and you can be sent to hell for eternity for that!


I’d report another impersonation but the moderator doesn’t seem to care.


IOW, pp has unsuccessfully complained about petty stuff to the moderator before
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2022 11:49     Subject: Re:child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
I am a catechist at a liberal Catholic parish with an active LGBTQ ministry. I am pro-gay marriage and pro abortion rights.

PP is right- most parishes are desperate for volunteers, so unless you want to teach the class yourself, I would stay out of it.

FWIW, I don’t address either abortion or gay marriage with the first grade students. We do talk a lot about treating others with respect and caring.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2022 11:37     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely not OK. I would contact the Bishop asap. If I want to indoctrinate my child, I have to make sure they are insulated completely from contrary opinions. I can't risk them figuring out truth on their own, or, gasp, using critical thinking skills. Hard pass. Only those people completely aligned with all my own opinions have the privilege of teaching my children. And it's especially crucial that they be taught that doctrine is not to be questioned. In fact, it's so bad it's called heresy and you can be sent to hell for eternity for that!


I’d report another impersonation but the moderator doesn’t seem to care.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2022 08:19     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
yes OP, make sure this ungodly woman (who has the temerity to volunteer to teach your child catechism for free!) gets publicly pilloried and thrown out of CCD and hissed at in the church parking lot after mass.

Sounds JUST like what Jesus would want!
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2022 08:12     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Her personal life is different. As long as she is teaching the values that is all that counts.


Is this true for priests and pastors as well?


Clearly, you’ve never seen a drunk or fat priest? Gluttony!


Or a gay priest (most of them!)
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2022 08:11     Subject: child's ccd teacher publicly opposes catholic beliefs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP give us an example? Abortion? Political?


I'm guessing abortion. Don't understand why OP wouldn't just be clear about it. Everyone knows the Catholic church's stance on it and everyone knows that a lot a Catholics don't pay any attention to it in their personal lives.


Or that gay people are not an abomination


Including gay priests