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Anonymous wrote:It's a consolation prize for universities that aren't very good. They get to be on a "list" even if it's not the "real" list. You're not a top national university or a top LAC but you are a top regional university. Yay!

No, it's not that. There are excellent schools on regional lists.

I'm looking at the lists of Best Regional Colleges and they're not getting me very excited about their excellence.

North:
Coast Guard Academy
Cooper Union
Merchant Marine Academy

South:
High Point
Flagler
Florida Polytechnic

Midwest:
Cottey
Taylor
Illinois Wesleyan

West:
Embry-Riddle
Carroll
Cal State Maritime Academy

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a consolation prize for universities that aren't very good. They get to be on a "list" even if it's not the "real" list. You're not a top national university or a top LAC but you are a top regional university. Yay!

No, it's not that. There are excellent schools on regional lists.

I'm looking at the lists of Best Regional Colleges and they're not getting me very excited about their excellence.

North:
Coast Guard Academy
Cooper Union
Merchant Marine Academy

South:
High Point
Flagler
Florida Polytechnic

Midwest:
Cottey
Taylor
Illinois Wesleyan

West:
Embry-Riddle
Carroll
Cal State Maritime Academy

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a consolation prize for universities that aren't very good. They get to be on a "list" even if it's not the "real" list. You're not a top national university or a top LAC but you are a top regional university. Yay!

No, it's not that. There are excellent schools on regional lists.

Anonymous wrote:I view it as reach. It is only known within the region where it exists. JMU, CNU, GMU in Virginia would be regional schools. They're known within a geographic sphere, not not particularly nationally. If you went to Los Angeles and said you have a degree from James Madison U., the person would think "where?" and they wouldn't know where it was.

This doesn't mean the school is bad, it just means it doesn't have a national or global name. But if you said "I went to the University of Virginia or Virginia Tech," the person in LA would think "Oh, I've heard of those."

Anonymous wrote:They use Carnegie classifications. Simple as that.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Classification_of_Institutions_of_Higher_Education

I don't see anything about regional in this wiki article. It doesn't even define what a national university is.

Ok. Perhaps you could look up “Carnegie classification” The classifications have changed over the the years, but academics still talk about “Research 1” as the gold standard in terms of jobs. Parents may not understand what that means in terms of teaching, but many parents may be more interested in the prestige value of an institution than in the teaching quality of an institution.

Hey, someone said go find it on wiki, and I'm just pointing out that it's not on wiki.

Nor can I find the definition of regional or national university on the Carnegie site.

So perhaps you could point me to exactly where Carnegie defines them because I only see the definitions on USNWR.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Classification_of_Institutions_of_Higher_Education

I don't see anything about regional in this wiki article. It doesn't even define what a national university is.

Ok. Perhaps you could look up “Carnegie classification” The classifications have changed over the the years, but academics still talk about “Research 1” as the gold standard in terms of jobs. Parents may not understand what that means in terms of teaching, but many parents may be more interested in the prestige value of an institution than in the teaching quality of an institution.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Classification_of_Institutions_of_Higher_Education

I don't see anything about regional in this wiki article. It doesn't even define what a national university is.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

They are classified as regional per Carnegie and then USNWR ranks them within regions. The latter provides bragging rights for programs, schools, and colleges/universities, and probably helps sell to parents and students. But the designation of regional comes from Carnegie. Wikipedia will tell you all this.

- Professor with a PhD from what used to be called a Research 1 university

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.

Except it does. From USNWR ranking definitions:

"The 604 total Regional Universities (239 public, 350 private and 15 for-profit) are ranked within four geographic areas: North, South, Midwest and West."

Regional universities are ranked within four geographic regions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a classification. This is where you find it:

https://carnegieclassifications.acenet.edu/

I think we just need to keep interjecting the correct answer periodically until people get that it has nothing to do with geography or the word regional.