Anonymous wrote:With the BoJ currency intervention and now running away global sovereign yields, the pain is only just beginning

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how Americans don't understand basic econ. You thought all those stimmi checks, PPP loans, and other free give aways had no consequences? The US gov have away multiple trillion dollar+ stimuli. The Fed juiced the economy with zero percent interest rates, doubled the supply of money in only 2 years, and expanded the balance sheet to $9 trillion dollars (it was only $800B around 2008). When you have that much cash and credit liquidity in the system you get persistent inflation. How in the hell do American consumers STILL have a voracious appetite for vacations, cars, electronics, dining out, etc. even though prices are skyrocketing? It's because people have too much money. The stamina for price hikes that Americans have is absurd. It means inflation is sticky and very difficult to dislodge.


The latest CPI report tanked the markets. It was very bad. It clearly shows inflation is being driven by excessive demand as well as an overly tight labor market and not so much due to supply constraints. Yes, the labor market is too hot. Unemployment also needs to go back up to reduce the strangle the labor market has on inflation.

The fed is now raising interest rates and quantitative tightening to remove money and liquidity from the economy. Costs to borrow are skyrocketing. It will bring down asset values, remove.miney from the system, and hopefully cause unemployment to go up. The net result will hopefully be taming of this terrible inflation.

Amen. Can’t believe how many people thought the stimulus money would have little effect. So dumb.

What was the size of the stimulus relative to the whole economy (eg GDP)?

The Fed's balance sheet expansion was $9,000,000,000,000 alone. That's almost half the entire amount of GDP. To put it into perspective, the Fed's balance sheet was only about $800B around 2008.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how Americans don't understand basic econ. You thought all those stimmi checks, PPP loans, and other free give aways had no consequences? The US gov have away multiple trillion dollar+ stimuli. The Fed juiced the economy with zero percent interest rates, doubled the supply of money in only 2 years, and expanded the balance sheet to $9 trillion dollars (it was only $800B around 2008). When you have that much cash and credit liquidity in the system you get persistent inflation. How in the hell do American consumers STILL have a voracious appetite for vacations, cars, electronics, dining out, etc. even though prices are skyrocketing? It's because people have too much money. The stamina for price hikes that Americans have is absurd. It means inflation is sticky and very difficult to dislodge.


The latest CPI report tanked the markets. It was very bad. It clearly shows inflation is being driven by excessive demand as well as an overly tight labor market and not so much due to supply constraints. Yes, the labor market is too hot. Unemployment also needs to go back up to reduce the strangle the labor market has on inflation.

The fed is now raising interest rates and quantitative tightening to remove money and liquidity from the economy. Costs to borrow are skyrocketing. It will bring down asset values, remove.miney from the system, and hopefully cause unemployment to go up. The net result will hopefully be taming of this terrible inflation.

Amen. Can’t believe how many people thought the stimulus money would have little effect. So dumb.

What was the size of the stimulus relative to the whole economy (eg GDP)?

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Anonymous wrote:I take some comfort in rising interest rates in that it gives the Fed bullets to deal with the next downturn. How would the government juice the economy if interest rates are close to zero?

They aren't close to zero anymore. Do you want rates to get so high that nobody can afford to take out any loans? This isn't great either for businesses and economy. Housing market isn't the only thing that's a problem, but it seems like it's the focus of this strategy, as if having people panic over losing their equity and savings and feeling poorer is really the solution to every crisis.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how Americans don't understand basic econ. You thought all those stimmi checks, PPP loans, and other free give aways had no consequences? The US gov have away multiple trillion dollar+ stimuli. The Fed juiced the economy with zero percent interest rates, doubled the supply of money in only 2 years, and expanded the balance sheet to $9 trillion dollars (it was only $800B around 2008). When you have that much cash and credit liquidity in the system you get persistent inflation. How in the hell do American consumers STILL have a voracious appetite for vacations, cars, electronics, dining out, etc. even though prices are skyrocketing? It's because people have too much money. The stamina for price hikes that Americans have is absurd. It means inflation is sticky and very difficult to dislodge.


The latest CPI report tanked the markets. It was very bad. It clearly shows inflation is being driven by excessive demand as well as an overly tight labor market and not so much due to supply constraints. Yes, the labor market is too hot. Unemployment also needs to go back up to reduce the strangle the labor market has on inflation.

The fed is now raising interest rates and quantitative tightening to remove money and liquidity from the economy. Costs to borrow are skyrocketing. It will bring down asset values, remove.miney from the system, and hopefully cause unemployment to go up. The net result will hopefully be taming of this terrible inflation.

Amen. Can’t believe how many people thought the stimulus money would have little effect. So dumb.

Stimulus + more stimulus + more stimulus + condoning a massive amount of debt + restricting gas + restricting oil + threatening companies (supply) with a myriad new regulations and taxes = Bidenomics

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how Americans don't understand basic econ. You thought all those stimmi checks, PPP loans, and other free give aways had no consequences? The US gov have away multiple trillion dollar+ stimuli. The Fed juiced the economy with zero percent interest rates, doubled the supply of money in only 2 years, and expanded the balance sheet to $9 trillion dollars (it was only $800B around 2008). When you have that much cash and credit liquidity in the system you get persistent inflation. How in the hell do American consumers STILL have a voracious appetite for vacations, cars, electronics, dining out, etc. even though prices are skyrocketing? It's because people have too much money. The stamina for price hikes that Americans have is absurd. It means inflation is sticky and very difficult to dislodge.


The latest CPI report tanked the markets. It was very bad. It clearly shows inflation is being driven by excessive demand as well as an overly tight labor market and not so much due to supply constraints. Yes, the labor market is too hot. Unemployment also needs to go back up to reduce the strangle the labor market has on inflation.

The fed is now raising interest rates and quantitative tightening to remove money and liquidity from the economy. Costs to borrow are skyrocketing. It will bring down asset values, remove.miney from the system, and hopefully cause unemployment to go up. The net result will hopefully be taming of this terrible inflation.

Amen. Can’t believe how many people thought the stimulus money would have little effect. So dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how Americans don't understand basic econ. You thought all those stimmi checks, PPP loans, and other free give aways had no consequences? The US gov have away multiple trillion dollar+ stimuli. The Fed juiced the economy with zero percent interest rates, doubled the supply of money in only 2 years, and expanded the balance sheet to $9 trillion dollars (it was only $800B around 2008). When you have that much cash and credit liquidity in the system you get persistent inflation. How in the hell do American consumers STILL have a voracious appetite for vacations, cars, electronics, dining out, etc. even though prices are skyrocketing? It's because people have too much money. The stamina for price hikes that Americans have is absurd. It means inflation is sticky and very difficult to dislodge.


The latest CPI report tanked the markets. It was very bad. It clearly shows inflation is being driven by excessive demand as well as an overly tight labor market and not so much due to supply constraints. Yes, the labor market is too hot. Unemployment also needs to go back up to reduce the strangle the labor market has on inflation.

The fed is now raising interest rates and quantitative tightening to remove money and liquidity from the economy. Costs to borrow are skyrocketing. It will bring down asset values, remove.miney from the system, and hopefully cause unemployment to go up. The net result will hopefully be taming of this terrible inflation.

Amen. Can’t believe how many people thought the stimulus money would have little effect. So dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how Americans don't understand basic econ. You thought all those stimmi checks, PPP loans, and other free give aways had no consequences? The US gov have away multiple trillion dollar+ stimuli. The Fed juiced the economy with zero percent interest rates, doubled the supply of money in only 2 years, and expanded the balance sheet to $9 trillion dollars (it was only $800B around 2008). When you have that much cash and credit liquidity in the system you get persistent inflation. How in the hell do American consumers STILL have a voracious appetite for vacations, cars, electronics, dining out, etc. even though prices are skyrocketing? It's because people have too much money. The stamina for price hikes that Americans have is absurd. It means inflation is sticky and very difficult to dislodge.


The latest CPI report tanked the markets. It was very bad. It clearly shows inflation is being driven by excessive demand as well as an overly tight labor market and not so much due to supply constraints. Yes, the labor market is too hot. Unemployment also needs to go back up to reduce the strangle the labor market has on inflation.

The fed is now raising interest rates and quantitative tightening to remove money and liquidity from the economy. Costs to borrow are skyrocketing. It will bring down asset values, remove.miney from the system, and hopefully cause unemployment to go up. The net result will hopefully be taming of this terrible inflation.

So, you are basically saying that having peasants have more money, assets, and control in the labor market is bad. I see. Too much money in the hands of regular people is bad, they feel too comfortable, start demanding things, spending, and don't want to work too hard or work at all. It's great that there is little wealth for the people and when they are outbidding each other for crappy wages en masse, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how Americans don't understand basic econ. You thought all those stimmi checks, PPP loans, and other free give aways had no consequences? The US gov have away multiple trillion dollar+ stimuli. The Fed juiced the economy with zero percent interest rates, doubled the supply of money in only 2 years, and expanded the balance sheet to $9 trillion dollars (it was only $800B around 2008). When you have that much cash and credit liquidity in the system you get persistent inflation. How in the hell do American consumers STILL have a voracious appetite for vacations, cars, electronics, dining out, etc. even though prices are skyrocketing? It's because people have too much money. The stamina for price hikes that Americans have is absurd. It means inflation is sticky and very difficult to dislodge.


The latest CPI report tanked the markets. It was very bad. It clearly shows inflation is being driven by excessive demand as well as an overly tight labor market and not so much due to supply constraints. Yes, the labor market is too hot. Unemployment also needs to go back up to reduce the strangle the labor market has on inflation.

The fed is now raising interest rates and quantitative tightening to remove money and liquidity from the economy. Costs to borrow are skyrocketing. It will bring down asset values, remove.miney from the system, and hopefully cause unemployment to go up. The net result will hopefully be taming of this terrible inflation.

Amen. Can’t believe how many people thought the stimulus money would have little effect. So dumb.

Anonymous wrote:I take some comfort in rising interest rates in that it gives the Fed bullets to deal with the next downturn. How would the government juice the economy if interest rates are close to zero?

Anonymous wrote:Amazing how Americans don't understand basic econ. You thought all those stimmi checks, PPP loans, and other free give aways had no consequences? The US gov have away multiple trillion dollar+ stimuli. The Fed juiced the economy with zero percent interest rates, doubled the supply of money in only 2 years, and expanded the balance sheet to $9 trillion dollars (it was only $800B around 2008). When you have that much cash and credit liquidity in the system you get persistent inflation. How in the hell do American consumers STILL have a voracious appetite for vacations, cars, electronics, dining out, etc. even though prices are skyrocketing? It's because people have too much money. The stamina for price hikes that Americans have is absurd. It means inflation is sticky and very difficult to dislodge.


The latest CPI report tanked the markets. It was very bad. It clearly shows inflation is being driven by excessive demand as well as an overly tight labor market and not so much due to supply constraints. Yes, the labor market is too hot. Unemployment also needs to go back up to reduce the strangle the labor market has on inflation.

The fed is now raising interest rates and quantitative tightening to remove money and liquidity from the economy. Costs to borrow are skyrocketing. It will bring down asset values, remove.miney from the system, and hopefully cause unemployment to go up. The net result will hopefully be taming of this terrible inflation.

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Anonymous wrote:“ Understanding the CARES Act
At $2.2 trillion, the CARES Act stands as the largest financial rescue package in U.S. history. The 2009 Recovery Act was $831 billion, the Consolidated Appropriations Act (CAA) was $910 billion, and the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) comes closest at $1.9 trillion.”

+1 add onto that all the money that some people actually saved during the shutdown. For many, like me, had no commuting/office costs, childcare costs, gas, kids activities, etc. I didn’t qualify for any cares act cash, but I saved hundreds a month by everything shutting down. Once everything opened, we entered the world with a lot of disposable savings looking to buy vacations and things we’ve put off, which for me is furniture and a new car

This describes us too, but I’m still not going to pay $55k for a car that was $40k 2 years ago. Why are people so willing to pay these exorbitant prices, just because they have a little extra money? [/quo

Some have no choice, because they must buy what they need, some of these things are necessities. Others are conditioned to think it's the new normal and wont' be waiting for prices to drop. Sort of like gas, when it was super high people still drove, they just paid more. They didn't just give up driving or moved to a 1 bedr in the city. Not everyone got extra money either, prices really hurt a lot of people who were already making ends meet barely before this.