Anonymous
09/13/2022 08:26
Subject: Re:Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Anonymous wrote:Companies for “top feeders to tech” seem a bit more arm wavey than some of the others. At least for the engineering list there’s a claim the companies were most pursued by the applicants (per some survey). For tech it’s just this college counseling site’s take on “reputable” tech companies. Results will look different depending on destinations.
Interesting lists, though.
True in the tech world there are many startups that are highly desirable, but let's be honest, the kids at those startups are the same kids at the top of these tech lists anyways
Anonymous
09/13/2022 08:25
Subject: Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Now we have "Top Employers"? Sheesh, it will never end with some people.
"Oh, well your, kid may be making bank in a great job in his field with a company he loves in a fabulous location, but it isn't a "Top Employer."
+1 Lots of insecurity on this site, especially considering how many very smart people are undoubtedly behind these comments.
I don't think it's meant to be insecure or to point out which companies are "top employers", but just meant to show what schools will generally have strong employment and grad school outcomes by and large. If someone wants to go into finance and can get an offer from Goldman Sachs, then chances are they have a good shot at another lesser known firm that might also pay well. The point is that these top employers and graduate schools have high hiring and acceptance standards, so it reflects well on schools that keep sending kids there.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 08:19
Subject: Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Anonymous wrote:Now we have "Top Employers"? Sheesh, it will never end with some people.
"Oh, well your, kid may be making bank in a great job in his field with a company he loves in a fabulous location, but it isn't a "Top Employer."
+1 Lots of insecurity on this site, especially considering how many very smart people are undoubtedly behind these comments.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 08:12
Subject: Re:Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Companies for “top feeders to tech” seem a bit more arm wavey than some of the others. At least for the engineering list there’s a claim the companies were most pursued by the applicants (per some survey). For tech it’s just this college counseling site’s take on “reputable” tech companies. Results will look different depending on destinations.
Interesting lists, though.
Interesting lists, though.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 08:06
Subject: Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Now we have "Top Employers"? Sheesh, it will never end with some people.
"Oh, well your, kid may be making bank in a great job in his field with a company he loves in a fabulous location, but it isn't a "Top Employer."
"Oh, well your, kid may be making bank in a great job in his field with a company he loves in a fabulous location, but it isn't a "Top Employer."
Anonymous
09/13/2022 07:41
Subject: Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the rankings hoopla going on right now, several commenters (including me) were thinking there should be more attention paid to which schools get kids to top positions and graduate schools to further their careers. Every list here uses the per capita version adjusted for undergraduate enrollment to account for differences in the sizes of the student bodies.
Top Feeders to Elite Consulting Firms (McKinsey, Bain, BCG): https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools
1. Harvard
2. UPenn
3. MIT
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. Dartmouth
7. Stanford
8. Duke
9. Columbia
10. Claremont McKenna
11. Northwestern
12. Vanderbilt
13. Rice
14. UChicago
15. Williams
16. Amherst
17. Brown
18. Notre Dame
19. Georgetown
20. WashU St. Louis
Top Feeders to Elite Law Schools (Yale Law, Harvard Law, Stanford Law, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school
1. Yale
2. Princeton
3. Amherst
4. Harvard
5. UChicago
6. Duke
7. Columbia
8. Georgetown
9. Pomona
10. Yeshiva
11. Stanford
12. Claremont McKenna
13. Swarthmore
14. Barnard
15. Dartmouth
16. UPenn
17. Cornell
18. Northwestern
19. Williams
20. Wesleyan
Top Feeders to Elite Medical Schools (Harvard Med, Johns Hopkins Med, UCSF, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-medical-school
1. Yale
2. Duke
3. Stanford
4. Johns Hopkins
5. Harvard
6. Princeton
7. Vanderbilt
8. Dartmouth
9. Rice
10. WashU St. Louis
11. Amherst
12. MIT
13. Williams
14. Pomona
15. Swarthmore
16. Columbia
17. Northwestern
18. Brown
19. UPenn
20. Emory
Top Feeders to Elite Wall Street Firms (Goldman, Morgan Stanley, JPM, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
1. UPenn
2. Harvard
3. Columbia
4. Yale
5. UChicago
6. Williams
7. Duke
8. Claremont McKenna
9. Middlebury
10. Princeton
11. Dartmouth
12. Notre Dame
13. Georgetown
14. Washington & Lee
15. Cornell
16. Amherst
17. Brown
18. Bowdoin
19. Stanford
20. Vanderbilt
Top Feeders to Elite Tech Companies for Software (Google, Meta, Microsoft, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech
1. Carnegie Mellon
2. Columbia
3. Stanford
4. MIT
5. Caltech
6. Harvey Mudd
7. Georgia Tech
8. University of Southern California
9. Rice
10. Harvard
11. Duke
12. Cornell
13. Northeastern
14. Berkeley
15. UPenn
16. Princeton
17. Brown
18. Santa Clara University
19. Northwestern
20. UIUC
Top Feeders to Elite Tech Companies for Engineering (Apple, SpaceX, NASA, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering
1. Carnegie Mellon
2. Columbia
3. Caltech
4. MIT
5. Georgia Tech
6. University of Southern California
7. Stanford
8. Olin
9. Harvey Mudd
10. Rice
11. Northeastern
12. Duke
13. Cornell
14. Santa Clara University
15. UPenn
16. Princeton
17. Harvard
18. Rose Hulman
19. Johns Hopkins
20. Cooper Union
Top Feeders to Elite Business Schools (Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
1. Dartmouth
2. UChicago
3. Claremont McKenna
4. Yale
5. Williams
6. Harvard
7. Northwestern
8. Stanford
9. Duke
10. Amherst
11. Middlebury
12. Brown
13. Princeton
14. Wellesley
15. UPenn
16. Colgate
17. Swarthmore
18. Rice
19. Bowdoin
20. Cornell
This is what I call a case of the "usual suspects". The top 10ish in all the elite fields is very consistently Harvard, Duke, Yale, Stanford, with healthy doses of UPenn Dartmouth and Columbia. Even UChicago does well in the non-medicine and non-tech fields. Was this unexpected?
I think you're selling these lists short, there were definitely some interesting insights for me. Who knew Claremont McKenna was this good for jobs and graduate school in law and business? Columbia is recognized as elite but who knew it was this good at sending kids to top tech companies, along with Northeastern? Who knew Middlebury was a top Wall Street feeder and business school feeder in the same ballpark as Princeton? Duke is of course exceptional but who knew it would outpace Harvard and Stanford to be the only school that was a top 10-12 feeder to the best destinations in every field? Who knew Yeshiva was a top 10 feeder to the best law schools in line with Stanford? Etc. etc. I'm certainly going to look more into Duke and Columbia now for my son who has a variety of interests, and Claremont McKenna and Middlebury have definitely popped up on my radar if any of my younger ones end up having more interest in business.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 07:17
Subject: Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The way Columbia pops up everywhere shows #18 is a joke, not based on reality.
NYU and Columbia both benefit from being in NYC and both have good professional schools.
No one ever believed that either one was top tier though.
The stats speak for themselves. The Columbia outcomes are pretty much what you would expect from an ivy. There's very little difference among ivy pluses.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 07:09
Subject: Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Anonymous wrote:With all the rankings hoopla going on right now, several commenters (including me) were thinking there should be more attention paid to which schools get kids to top positions and graduate schools to further their careers. Every list here uses the per capita version adjusted for undergraduate enrollment to account for differences in the sizes of the student bodies.
Top Feeders to Elite Consulting Firms (McKinsey, Bain, BCG): https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools
1. Harvard
2. UPenn
3. MIT
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. Dartmouth
7. Stanford
8. Duke
9. Columbia
10. Claremont McKenna
11. Northwestern
12. Vanderbilt
13. Rice
14. UChicago
15. Williams
16. Amherst
17. Brown
18. Notre Dame
19. Georgetown
20. WashU St. Louis
Top Feeders to Elite Law Schools (Yale Law, Harvard Law, Stanford Law, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school
1. Yale
2. Princeton
3. Amherst
4. Harvard
5. UChicago
6. Duke
7. Columbia
8. Georgetown
9. Pomona
10. Yeshiva
11. Stanford
12. Claremont McKenna
13. Swarthmore
14. Barnard
15. Dartmouth
16. UPenn
17. Cornell
18. Northwestern
19. Williams
20. Wesleyan
Top Feeders to Elite Medical Schools (Harvard Med, Johns Hopkins Med, UCSF, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-medical-school
1. Yale
2. Duke
3. Stanford
4. Johns Hopkins
5. Harvard
6. Princeton
7. Vanderbilt
8. Dartmouth
9. Rice
10. WashU St. Louis
11. Amherst
12. MIT
13. Williams
14. Pomona
15. Swarthmore
16. Columbia
17. Northwestern
18. Brown
19. UPenn
20. Emory
Top Feeders to Elite Wall Street Firms (Goldman, Morgan Stanley, JPM, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
1. UPenn
2. Harvard
3. Columbia
4. Yale
5. UChicago
6. Williams
7. Duke
8. Claremont McKenna
9. Middlebury
10. Princeton
11. Dartmouth
12. Notre Dame
13. Georgetown
14. Washington & Lee
15. Cornell
16. Amherst
17. Brown
18. Bowdoin
19. Stanford
20. Vanderbilt
Top Feeders to Elite Tech Companies for Software (Google, Meta, Microsoft, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech
1. Carnegie Mellon
2. Columbia
3. Stanford
4. MIT
5. Caltech
6. Harvey Mudd
7. Georgia Tech
8. University of Southern California
9. Rice
10. Harvard
11. Duke
12. Cornell
13. Northeastern
14. Berkeley
15. UPenn
16. Princeton
17. Brown
18. Santa Clara University
19. Northwestern
20. UIUC
Top Feeders to Elite Tech Companies for Engineering (Apple, SpaceX, NASA, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering
1. Carnegie Mellon
2. Columbia
3. Caltech
4. MIT
5. Georgia Tech
6. University of Southern California
7. Stanford
8. Olin
9. Harvey Mudd
10. Rice
11. Northeastern
12. Duke
13. Cornell
14. Santa Clara University
15. UPenn
16. Princeton
17. Harvard
18. Rose Hulman
19. Johns Hopkins
20. Cooper Union
Top Feeders to Elite Business Schools (Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, etc.): https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-business-school
1. Dartmouth
2. UChicago
3. Claremont McKenna
4. Yale
5. Williams
6. Harvard
7. Northwestern
8. Stanford
9. Duke
10. Amherst
11. Middlebury
12. Brown
13. Princeton
14. Wellesley
15. UPenn
16. Colgate
17. Swarthmore
18. Rice
19. Bowdoin
20. Cornell
This is what I call a case of the "usual suspects". The top 10ish in all the elite fields is very consistently Harvard, Duke, Yale, Stanford, with healthy doses of UPenn Dartmouth and Columbia. Even UChicago does well in the non-medicine and non-tech fields. Was this unexpected?
Anonymous
09/13/2022 06:32
Subject: Re:Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
I’d be fine with my kid doing McKinsey or similar for a few years after school. Great intro to world of business, broad exposure to careers and skills needed in the workplace, and it’s a great way to pay off debt. Those jobs are impossible to get and draw the brightest students, set them up for future success, pay well, and often are the first step to a different path anyway. Plenty go on to graduate school and other fields. But so few people get those jobs that it’s not worth picking a school because of it. I did consulting out of college and ended up going into the nonprofit world. I bring that experience to everything I do and use what I learned in consulting for good.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 06:23
Subject: Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The way Columbia pops up everywhere shows #18 is a joke, not based on reality.
NYU and Columbia both benefit from being in NYC and both have good professional schools.
No one ever believed that either one was top tier though.
The stats speak for themselves. The Columbia outcomes are pretty much what you would expect from an ivy. There's virtually very little difference among all ivy pluses.
Anonymous
09/13/2022 01:11
Subject: Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Anonymous wrote:The way Columbia pops up everywhere shows #18 is a joke, not based on reality.
NYU and Columbia both benefit from being in NYC and both have good professional schools.
No one ever believed that either one was top tier though.
Anonymous
09/12/2022 23:13
Subject: Re:Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
Anonymous wrote:My God, so this is what our society does with its brightest. More f*ckin consultants and bankers. Count me out, and my kid. Delighted he will be going somewhere where fewer people do this kind of thing.
Take it easy. It did also show fields of law, tech, medicine and business in addition to consulting. Plus, if some peers are top notch in entering their careers in these fields, you think others from the schools would be drastically sub par in other fields? Think this is just a window of view into the career paths in terms of the likelihood with the schools. Nothing says one will be on these paths.
Anonymous
09/12/2022 20:37
Subject: Re:Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
My God, so this is what our society does with its brightest. More f*ckin consultants and bankers. Count me out, and my kid. Delighted he will be going somewhere where fewer people do this kind of thing.
Anonymous
09/12/2022 20:19
Subject: Re:Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
C'mon folks. Just pick a ranking that reinforces your preexisting biases and be done with it.
Anonymous
09/12/2022 20:02
Subject: Schools that Feed the Most to Top Employers and Graduate Schools
The way Columbia pops up everywhere shows #18 is a joke, not based on reality.