Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We usually do: vegan stuffing with mushrooms/boiled chestnuts; roasted root vegetables; “brisket” slow cooked beans (with the seasoning you would put in brisket); olives and good pickles; some kind of cold cooked salad (eggplant in tomato sauce, potato salad with vegan mayo, etc.) and good bread.
I would love the recipe for brisket slow cooked beans! I am vegan now but always loved the flavor of brisket. I firmly believe that "meat" is not what people enjoy or miss if they stop eating it; it's the seasonings.
Anonymous wrote:We usually do: vegan stuffing with mushrooms/boiled chestnuts; roasted root vegetables; “brisket” slow cooked beans (with the seasoning you would put in brisket); olives and good pickles; some kind of cold cooked salad (eggplant in tomato sauce, potato salad with vegan mayo, etc.) and good bread.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is my favorite vegan/vegetarian holiday entree:
Make this soup:
https://heartfultable.com/lentil-and-sage-stew/
But add an extra half tsp salt and at the end, add 1/4 cup dry quinoa and cook until you see the little spirals come out. Then hollow out a small pumpkin (like pie sized), but keep it whole. Just cut off the top and scoop out the seeds and strings as if you were going to make a jack-o-lantern. Fill it with the soup and bake for about an hour at 375.
Looks very festive and is a hearty entree but other guests will actually enjoy it too!
For sides:
Dave’s Killer bread is vegan and they have a variety of products. Grabbing a loaf also means you can offer them toast for breakfast if they are staying a few days.
Scoop some of the potato mash out before adding butter and milk and instead add vegan versions.
I think it’s fine if you skip including them in the dressing.
Offer a nice side salad or other veggie dish (roast Brussels sprouts, green beans)
You can also make simple roast sweet potatoes and just serve in their skin, topped with vegan butter and salt and pepper. Very simple but an easy way to add another option.
For dessert, rather than having apple pie filling in a dish, why not put some of the filling into a small glass baking dish and top with a crumble topping (vegan butter, brown sugar and rolled oats, for example). Cover with foil for the first 30 minutes of baking. Only a little more effort but then it feels like you went out of your way vs. just giving them half a dessert. You can also buy a container of vegan ice cream to serve with their apple crumble and it would give them the option of an alternative dessert if they prefer just ice cream.
This is just so much extra work for OP, who is hosting 16 people! No. If you’re already making pie filling for a regular pie (with regular pie crust), it’s not too much extra work to essentially just make more filling (minus butter) and put aside in a crock pot. That is plenty of extra work.
Scooping out a freaking pumpkin? You’re insane.
And by the way, have you “just do more” posters even considered the extra cost of “just buy extra vegan ice cream” and “just buy extra vegan French onion dip,” etc.? Groceries are already sky-high. OP should make a few easy modifications. To her question, yes, her plan as-is is more than enough for the two vegans to make a plate. The entitlement here is astounding.
BS. And grass fed means nothing. Unless you literally never eat out anywhere you are still supporting the cruelty involved for your “ meat”Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they’re not junk. And tbh I would rather eat junk than support factory farming. I don’t think this makes me “ difficult” you need to be more aware of where your food comes from.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe you could serve them something like this? https://fieldroast.com/product/celebration-roast/
I’ve heard good reviews from vegan friends.
OP, this is a good suggestion, but only if you know they eat and enjoy plant-based alternatives like that. My SIL bemoans that vegan burgers and the like are processed and that they are served to vegans all the time at social events. (Which…I have my opinions on that level of entitlement, I’m just saying.)
What do you mean by 'level of entitlement'? Junk food is junk food. Those vegan meats are junk. How is not wanting to eat junk 'entitled'?
I source all my meats and dairy from local grass fed, free range farms. That beats processed soy and hydrogenated oils any day.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they’re not junk. And tbh I would rather eat junk than support factory farming. I don’t think this makes me “ difficult” you need to be more aware of where your food comes from.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe you could serve them something like this? https://fieldroast.com/product/celebration-roast/
I’ve heard good reviews from vegan friends.
OP, this is a good suggestion, but only if you know they eat and enjoy plant-based alternatives like that. My SIL bemoans that vegan burgers and the like are processed and that they are served to vegans all the time at social events. (Which…I have my opinions on that level of entitlement, I’m just saying.)
What do you mean by 'level of entitlement'? Junk food is junk food. Those vegan meats are junk. How is not wanting to eat junk 'entitled'?
I don't want to support factory farms and I don't want to eat junk either. How is that entitled? Yes, "processed protein" "Isolated protein" etc etc is junk. Also loaded with sodium and yeast extract and MSG. Just because it's vegan doesn't mean it's healthy. It's processed crap.
Someone is trying to graciously accommodate you. If you can’t graciously eat what is served, decline invitations or bring your own food. When I go to a dinner party, I do not turn up my nose at what is served, nor do I complain that I have been served that food before and suggest alternatives for next time—this is literally what my SIL does. “Pasta again? Next time, you should try serving—“ That is entitled beyond. If you can’t graciously eat a few bites of a vegan burger that was provided for you out of consideration by your hosts, stay home. Not saying you have to gorge on tofurkey, but recognize the gesture and eat a few bites and fill up on sides. My goodness. SO entitled.
Uh, I am not even vegan. I am simply saying that someone who IS vegan has a right to "bemoan" that they are constantly getting served processed junk. That is not entitled. I'm sure that PP's SIL has eaten way more than her fair share of vegan burgers at this point.
If you were a gracious host, you would want to know that the special accommodations you're making for your vegan guests are processed junk. Instead you would rather they "graciously eat a few bites" and then wipe their lips and say, "Mmm, delicious!" I'm sure your guests eat a full meal before they come over anyway.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they’re not junk. And tbh I would rather eat junk than support factory farming. I don’t think this makes me “ difficult” you need to be more aware of where your food comes from.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe you could serve them something like this? https://fieldroast.com/product/celebration-roast/
I’ve heard good reviews from vegan friends.
OP, this is a good suggestion, but only if you know they eat and enjoy plant-based alternatives like that. My SIL bemoans that vegan burgers and the like are processed and that they are served to vegans all the time at social events. (Which…I have my opinions on that level of entitlement, I’m just saying.)
What do you mean by 'level of entitlement'? Junk food is junk food. Those vegan meats are junk. How is not wanting to eat junk 'entitled'?
I don't want to support factory farms and I don't want to eat junk either. How is that entitled? Yes, "processed protein" "Isolated protein" etc etc is junk. Also loaded with sodium and yeast extract and MSG. Just because it's vegan doesn't mean it's healthy. It's processed crap.
Someone is trying to graciously accommodate you. If you can’t graciously eat what is served, decline invitations or bring your own food. When I go to a dinner party, I do not turn up my nose at what is served, nor do I complain that I have been served that food before and suggest alternatives for next time—this is literally what my SIL does. “Pasta again? Next time, you should try serving—“ That is entitled beyond. If you can’t graciously eat a few bites of a vegan burger that was provided for you out of consideration by your hosts, stay home. Not saying you have to gorge on tofurkey, but recognize the gesture and eat a few bites and fill up on sides. My goodness. SO entitled.
Uh, I am not even vegan. I am simply saying that someone who IS vegan has a right to "bemoan" that they are constantly getting served processed junk. That is not entitled. I'm sure that PP's SIL has eaten way more than her fair share of vegan burgers at this point.
If you were a gracious host, you would want to know that the special accommodations you're making for your vegan guests are processed junk. Instead you would rather they "graciously eat a few bites" and then wipe their lips and say, "Mmm, delicious!" I'm sure your guests eat a full meal before they come over anyway.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they’re not junk. And tbh I would rather eat junk than support factory farming. I don’t think this makes me “ difficult” you need to be more aware of where your food comes from.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe you could serve them something like this? https://fieldroast.com/product/celebration-roast/
I’ve heard good reviews from vegan friends.
OP, this is a good suggestion, but only if you know they eat and enjoy plant-based alternatives like that. My SIL bemoans that vegan burgers and the like are processed and that they are served to vegans all the time at social events. (Which…I have my opinions on that level of entitlement, I’m just saying.)
What do you mean by 'level of entitlement'? Junk food is junk food. Those vegan meats are junk. How is not wanting to eat junk 'entitled'?
I don't want to support factory farms and I don't want to eat junk either. How is that entitled? Yes, "processed protein" "Isolated protein" etc etc is junk. Also loaded with sodium and yeast extract and MSG. Just because it's vegan doesn't mean it's healthy. It's processed crap.
Someone is trying to graciously accommodate you. If you can’t graciously eat what is served, decline invitations or bring your own food. When I go to a dinner party, I do not turn up my nose at what is served, nor do I complain that I have been served that food before and suggest alternatives for next time—this is literally what my SIL does. “Pasta again? Next time, you should try serving—“ That is entitled beyond. If you can’t graciously eat a few bites of a vegan burger that was provided for you out of consideration by your hosts, stay home. Not saying you have to gorge on tofurkey, but recognize the gesture and eat a few bites and fill up on sides. My goodness. SO entitled.
Anonymous wrote:they’re not junk. And tbh I would rather eat junk than support factory farming. I don’t think this makes me “ difficult” you need to be more aware of where your food comes from.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe you could serve them something like this? https://fieldroast.com/product/celebration-roast/
I’ve heard good reviews from vegan friends.
OP, this is a good suggestion, but only if you know they eat and enjoy plant-based alternatives like that. My SIL bemoans that vegan burgers and the like are processed and that they are served to vegans all the time at social events. (Which…I have my opinions on that level of entitlement, I’m just saying.)
What do you mean by 'level of entitlement'? Junk food is junk food. Those vegan meats are junk. How is not wanting to eat junk 'entitled'?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are vegan versions of everything, everywhere. It's not difficult to find vegan foods anymore.
Nobody wants to eat that stuff, except for the vegans. There is no need to change and entire menu to accommodate two people.
Why would she have to change the entire menu? Just buy two vegan meals for her vegan guests. Jeez, you are REALLY a crappy host.
Nope, you didn’t say “just buy two vegan meals for her vegan guests,” you said “there are vegan versions of everything, everywhere.” Stop acting like I’m arguing point A when you made point B.
Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.