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Anonymous wrote:Point out to him which states don't allow abortion. Is that a state he wants to support? Something both my sons have talked about a lot in the last couple of months.

He’s not planning on having an abortion any time soon I wouldn’t think.

Whether you personally get an abortion is separate from respecting the fundamental right to do so. You can hold a right without exercising it.

Anonymous wrote: I am absolutely making abortion access a factor on where my DD goes to college.

It’s her decision not yours.

It’s great to experience different places when you’re young. The South is much more laid back and kinder than Massachusetts. Though Massachusetts does have some very loyal people, it just takes much more time to get to know people. They don’t open up as quickly. Winters are a pain too, hope he’s happy where he ends up.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very pro choice and the Supreme Court opinion is appalling. I would never expect (or want, although it’s their decision) my kids to factor that decision into college choice. I’m hoping they practice safer sex and if not, I’ll be happy to get anyone where they need to go for health care if it becomes necessary.

I expect my daughter to factor it in. It's not just about BC -- there are medical emergencies that don't give you enough time to get to another state. BC fails sometimes, and ectopic pregnancies can go south very quickly.

You make valid points and I completely understand why families are making this a factor in college decisions. But I hope people are putting the risks in perspective. For example, there is a MUCH greater risk of a female college student getting killed in a car accident than getting pregnant while practicing safe sex/using birth control and then developing an ectopic pregnancy, or some similar condition, that requires immediate emergency treatment. And even if a state were to outlaw Plan B, have your kid take a supply with them -- no one's going to search their dorm room.

It represents an insidious disrespect for women and their freedom and privacy to go troll their own reproductive choices. Why go to state that is smacking it's women back 50 years in time in terms of their basic rights?

Not arguing with that. I respect those who make choices based on principles/values.

Sure unless those principles are unjust

But they have the right to make personal choices (not choices for others) based on their individual principles/values just the same.

Getting lost in this back and forth.

I stand by that you cannot justify outlawing abortion for all women if a state by claiming. "that is the value of that state. They tried to justify slavery with that states rights argument.

Anonymous wrote:Point out to him which states don't allow abortion. Is that a state he wants to support? Something both my sons have talked about a lot in the last couple of months.

He’s not planning on having an abortion any time soon I wouldn’t think.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very pro choice and the Supreme Court opinion is appalling. I would never expect (or want, although it’s their decision) my kids to factor that decision into college choice. I’m hoping they practice safer sex and if not, I’ll be happy to get anyone where they need to go for health care if it becomes necessary.

I expect my daughter to factor it in. It's not just about BC -- there are medical emergencies that don't give you enough time to get to another state. BC fails sometimes, and ectopic pregnancies can go south very quickly.

You make valid points and I completely understand why families are making this a factor in college decisions. But I hope people are putting the risks in perspective. For example, there is a MUCH greater risk of a female college student getting killed in a car accident than getting pregnant while practicing safe sex/using birth control and then developing an ectopic pregnancy, or some similar condition, that requires immediate emergency treatment. And even if a state were to outlaw Plan B, have your kid take a supply with them -- no one's going to search their dorm room.

It represents an insidious disrespect for women and their freedom and privacy to go troll their own reproductive choices. Why go to state that is smacking it's women back 50 years in time in terms of their basic rights?

Not arguing with that. I respect those who make choices based on principles/values.

Sure unless those principles are unjust

But they have the right to make personal choices (not choices for others) based on their individual principles/values just the same.

Anonymous wrote: On the practical/financial side, one of my kids was a 7 hour drive away from home. Short school breaks (4 days or less), he could not come home.

I went to school an 8 hour drive from home. I went home for Thanksgiving, winter break, spring break and summer. Not too many people went home on weekends anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very pro choice and the Supreme Court opinion is appalling. I would never expect (or want, although it’s their decision) my kids to factor that decision into college choice. I’m hoping they practice safer sex and if not, I’ll be happy to get anyone where they need to go for health care if it becomes necessary.

I expect my daughter to factor it in. It's not just about BC -- there are medical emergencies that don't give you enough time to get to another state. BC fails sometimes, and ectopic pregnancies can go south very quickly.

You make valid points and I completely understand why families are making this a factor in college decisions. But I hope people are putting the risks in perspective. For example, there is a MUCH greater risk of a female college student getting killed in a car accident than getting pregnant while practicing safe sex/using birth control and then developing an ectopic pregnancy, or some similar condition, that requires immediate emergency treatment. And even if a state were to outlaw Plan B, have your kid take a supply with them -- no one's going to search their dorm room.

It represents an insidious disrespect for women and their freedom and privacy to go troll their own reproductive choices. Why go to state that is smacking it's women back 50 years in time in terms of their basic rights?

Not arguing with that. I respect those who make choices based on principles/values.

Sure unless those principles are unjust

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very pro choice and the Supreme Court opinion is appalling. I would never expect (or want, although it’s their decision) my kids to factor that decision into college choice. I’m hoping they practice safer sex and if not, I’ll be happy to get anyone where they need to go for health care if it becomes necessary.

I expect my daughter to factor it in. It's not just about BC -- there are medical emergencies that don't give you enough time to get to another state. BC fails sometimes, and ectopic pregnancies can go south very quickly.

You make valid points and I completely understand why families are making this a factor in college decisions. But I hope people are putting the risks in perspective. For example, there is a MUCH greater risk of a female college student getting killed in a car accident than getting pregnant while practicing safe sex/using birth control and then developing an ectopic pregnancy, or some similar condition, that requires immediate emergency treatment. And even if a state were to outlaw Plan B, have your kid take a supply with them -- no one's going to search their dorm room.

It represents an insidious disrespect for women and their freedom and privacy to go troll their own reproductive choices. Why go to state that is smacking it's women back 50 years in time in terms of their basic rights?

Not arguing with that. I respect those who make choices based on principles/values.

Has he visited any of the colleges he is interested in OP?

Anonymous wrote:The OP simply mentioned bad weather, but in typical DCUM style, the thread has jumped the shark. On the practical/financial side, one of my kids was a 7 hour drive away from home. Short school breaks (4 days or less), he could not come home.

Well these students are subject to the laws in place in the states where they attend college.

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It's good he knows what he wants.

Personally, I have explained to my children that I will not give a quarter of a million to red states for their education.
They understand this, and it's moot anyway, since they prefer cooler places.

Interesting way to convey that education is all about narrow-mindedness.

Shoving women backwards 50 years is not worthy of my education dollars.

Respect for others starts with learning that there are different points of view in the world and learning to work with others with whom we may disagree.

My concern about your posts is not the point of view expressed, but the tone of self-righteous, indignation and intolerance for opposing viewpoints.

Slavery anyone? Not every opposing viewpoint is worthy of tolerance. This is a basic fundamental right for women.

I have complete respect for your choice to never get an abortion.

I have no respect for you imposing that view on my children or your children who currently stripped of a constitutional rright held by the people of this country for almost 50 years. They will fight to regain the freedom to make their own rerporductive choices. Choices.

The OP simply mentioned bad weather, but in typical DCUM style, the thread has jumped the shark. On the practical/financial side, one of my kids was a 7 hour drive away from home. Short school breaks (4 days or less), he could not come home.

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It's good he knows what he wants.

Personally, I have explained to my children that I will not give a quarter of a million to red states for their education.
They understand this, and it's moot anyway, since they prefer cooler places.

Interesting way to convey that education is all about narrow-mindedness.

Shoving women backwards 50 years is not worthy of my education dollars.

Respect for others starts with learning that there are different points of view in the world and learning to work with others with whom we may disagree.

My concern about your posts is not the point of view expressed, but the tone of self-righteous, indignation and intolerance for opposing viewpoints.

Slavery anyone? Not every opposing viewpoint is worthy of tolerance. This is a basic fundamental right for women.

Anonymous wrote:I’m very pro choice and the Supreme Court opinion is appalling. I would never expect (or want, although it’s their decision) my kids to factor that decision into college choice. I’m hoping they practice safer sex and if not, I’ll be happy to get anyone where they need to go for health care if it becomes necessary.

But you have to be careful. The very red states, like Texas, are trying to implement penalty laws for anyone that has or conducts an abortion. And they are trying to make it so that their laws cover those who travel out of state to do so. Are you ready to be sued for $10K for aiding and abetting your son's girlfriend's abortion when she travels to another state to get an abortion. And there are other states who are trying to mimic this law. So, if your child wants to be sexually active (and most college students do want to be), then he needs to do some research into what his responsibilities will be and what laws are on the books or being considered for controlling abortion access including for those traveling out of state. The Dobbs decision is giving many conservative states very grandiose ideas of how to control these issues and until the courts can officially rule on the legality of these laws, every person who potentially conceives a fetus could be covered by these laws.