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Anonymous wrote:Crazy. We need to take a hard line on criminals. Things are getting out of control.

https://wtop.com/washington-commanders/2022/08/commanders-brian-robinson-shot-during-attempted-robbery-in-northeast-dc/
"District police said in a tweet that the shooting occurred around 5:30 p.m. on 10th & H Street NE, near Ben’s Chili Bowl."

Ever get takeout or eat at Ben's Chili Bowl? Dinner time! Does it get scrubbed from the list? And the victim is young, physically fit certainly but no match for DC teen criminals. Honestly, how did teenage guys not recognize him? I'm not a huge football fan yet when I see these guys going about normal person stuff even I get the know them from somewhere...

Unconfirmed reports say he was NOT in a flashy car. But I'm guessing it was at least a somewhat nice new vehicle, and you can tell when a young man has money from his fashion, designer sneakers, and likely wears a nice watch. I doubt the kids knew he was the new starting running back of the Commanders.

If he was at Ben's or out somewhere else on H st, I wonder if they targeted him/his car. Carjacking at 5:30 PM on H street is really something else.

If he was actually in a normal lower key car, safe bet he was wearing a flashy watch or chain and/or distinct high-end fashion that made him stand out. Or flashed a fat wad of cash when he paid for food. Because these cowardly teen criminals don't carjack a random in-shape 200lb Black guy, they tend to pick softer targets ex. elderly, female, a skinny white guy wearing flip flops.

Way to blame the victim!

I would love for that person to tell us what appropriate cars we should drive and clothes and jewelry we should wear to avoid getting robbed.

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter what he was wearing, what he was driving, or whether he had any jewelry.

He was a victim of a crime. When residents have to start second guessing what vehicles they drive and what they wear, the city is not safe.
And, these suspects are still at large.

Welcome to DC, Mr. Robinson!!!! You are not in Alabama anymore.

Exactly. It’s not a long way from criminals targeting his “bling” to targeting your “bling”.

It doesn't matter what he was wearing, what he was driving, or whether he had any jewelry.

He was a victim of a crime. When residents have to start second guessing what vehicles they drive and what they wear, the city is not safe.
And, these suspects are still at large.

Welcome to DC, Mr. Robinson!!!! You are not in Alabama anymore.

Are there still insane bidding wars for houses in DC? Will this random, violent crime ever have an impact on real estate values?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't worry , they will be back on the street before bedtime

Did you see the two suspects are allegedly minors? Wow just wow.

I think carjackings are almost always minors. It’s a sport of sorts that replaced stealing cars when stealing cars got harder/less fun because of anti-theft devices, mainly remote keys. You know, a sport where they occasionally kill people.

I sat on a jury for a carjacking and it was essentially that they were bored and they wanted a car to ride around in. They stole and hot wired an older car, but they wanted a better car with a key. So they carjacked a guy. The whole thing was incredibly stupid from soup to nuts. I’m not sure they even tried to not get caught.

+1. For the poster who asked if they ever interview the teens about why they do it, there is no meaningful reason. It is completely senseless.
- former prosecutor

So what do you think should happen in order to prevent car jackings? Harsh penalties or reduce the penalties so there are essentially zero consequences, which is what Charles Allen is doing?

Full disclosure, I left my job as a prosecutor because I could not abide by soft on crime policies and was too far along in my career to be doing things that I did not believe in, so I don’t align with the Charles Allen approach to crime. I think that creating diversion programs, mental health courts, drug courts, etc. are all excellent ideas and should be utilized whenever possible for non-violent offenses. Particularly with kids, there is value to the concept that putting them in the traditional criminal justice system can do more harm than good, so I think finding alternatives to traditional prosecution for non-violent kids is really important. However, I do not agree with treating a kid that shoots someone the same as the kid who steals. When you are putting a gun in someone’s face, or beating a random person for their AirPods, you are past the point where a hug and a promise to do better is enough. What you are reinforcing at that point is the idea that they can do whatever they want because there are no real consequences. If you shoot someone or are committing random acts of violence, you need to be taken out of society for a minute. Do services, therapy, etc. need to be provided, absolutely, but they need to be provided in a secure environment so the rest of the community is not at risk while the system tries to rehabilitate the kid. You also have to realize that these kids’ home environment is often terrible and their parents aren’t involved, so trying to rehabilitate a kid in their home environment, which requires parental participation and buy in, is often futile. To be quite honest I think there needs to be some serious investment in the facilities for juveniles so that they are providing the appropriate services in a safe environment. I really just don’t see what a violence interruptor is going to accomplish with a 15 year old kid who is already running the streets and whose parents are uninvolved.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Crazy. We need to take a hard line on criminals. Things are getting out of control.

https://wtop.com/washington-commanders/2022/08/commanders-brian-robinson-shot-during-attempted-robbery-in-northeast-dc/
"District police said in a tweet that the shooting occurred around 5:30 p.m. on 10th & H Street NE, near Ben’s Chili Bowl."

Ever get takeout or eat at Ben's Chili Bowl? Dinner time! Does it get scrubbed from the list? And the victim is young, physically fit certainly but no match for DC teen criminals. Honestly, how did teenage guys not recognize him? I'm not a huge football fan yet when I see these guys going about normal person stuff even I get the know them from somewhere...

Unconfirmed reports say he was NOT in a flashy car. But I'm guessing it was at least a somewhat nice new vehicle, and you can tell when a young man has money from his fashion, designer sneakers, and likely wears a nice watch. I doubt the kids knew he was the new starting running back of the Commanders.

If he was at Ben's or out somewhere else on H st, I wonder if they targeted him/his car. Carjacking at 5:30 PM on H street is really something else.

If he was actually in a normal lower key car, safe bet he was wearing a flashy watch or chain and/or distinct high-end fashion that made him stand out. Or flashed a fat wad of cash when he paid for food. Because these cowardly teen criminals don't carjack a random in-shape 200lb Black guy, they tend to pick softer targets ex. elderly, female, a skinny white guy wearing flip flops.

Way to blame the victim!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crazy. We need to take a hard line on criminals. Things are getting out of control.

https://wtop.com/washington-commanders/2022/08/commanders-brian-robinson-shot-during-attempted-robbery-in-northeast-dc/
"District police said in a tweet that the shooting occurred around 5:30 p.m. on 10th & H Street NE, near Ben’s Chili Bowl."

Ever get takeout or eat at Ben's Chili Bowl? Dinner time! Does it get scrubbed from the list? And the victim is young, physically fit certainly but no match for DC teen criminals. Honestly, how did teenage guys not recognize him? I'm not a huge football fan yet when I see these guys going about normal person stuff even I get the know them from somewhere...

Unconfirmed reports say he was NOT in a flashy car. But I'm guessing it was at least a somewhat nice new vehicle, and you can tell when a young man has money from his fashion, designer sneakers, and likely wears a nice watch. I doubt the kids knew he was the new starting running back of the Commanders.

If he was at Ben's or out somewhere else on H st, I wonder if they targeted him/his car. Carjacking at 5:30 PM on H street is really something else.

If he was actually in a normal lower key car, safe bet he was wearing a flashy watch or chain and/or distinct high-end fashion that made him stand out. Or flashed a fat wad of cash when he paid for food. Because these cowardly teen criminals don't carjack a random in-shape 200lb Black guy, they tend to pick softer targets ex. elderly, female, a skinny white guy wearing flip flops.

Running backs are often pretty average in height, if not somewhat short and tend to weigh around 200lbs -- so it's not like he is as distinct as a nearly 7 foot tall Washington Wizards basketball player. Football players often look pretty normal. To the carjackers trying to rob him, he probably seemed like a random out-of-towner rich college student from Howard i.e. an easy mark.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crazy. We need to take a hard line on criminals. Things are getting out of control.

https://wtop.com/washington-commanders/2022/08/commanders-brian-robinson-shot-during-attempted-robbery-in-northeast-dc/
"District police said in a tweet that the shooting occurred around 5:30 p.m. on 10th & H Street NE, near Ben’s Chili Bowl."

Ever get takeout or eat at Ben's Chili Bowl? Dinner time! Does it get scrubbed from the list? And the victim is young, physically fit certainly but no match for DC teen criminals. Honestly, how did teenage guys not recognize him? I'm not a huge football fan yet when I see these guys going about normal person stuff even I get the know them from somewhere...

Unconfirmed reports say he was NOT in a flashy car. But I'm guessing it was at least a somewhat nice new vehicle, and you can tell when a young man has money from his fashion, designer sneakers, and likely wears a nice watch. I doubt the kids knew he was the new starting running back of the Commanders.

If he was at Ben's or out somewhere else on H st, I wonder if they targeted him/his car. Carjacking at 5:30 PM on H street is really something else.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't worry , they will be back on the street before bedtime

Did you see the two suspects are allegedly minors? Wow just wow.

I think carjackings are almost always minors. It’s a sport of sorts that replaced stealing cars when stealing cars got harder/less fun because of anti-theft devices, mainly remote keys. You know, a sport where they occasionally kill people.

I sat on a jury for a carjacking and it was essentially that they were bored and they wanted a car to ride around in. They stole and hot wired an older car, but they wanted a better car with a key. So they carjacked a guy. The whole thing was incredibly stupid from soup to nuts. I’m not sure they even tried to not get caught.

+1. For the poster who asked if they ever interview the teens about why they do it, there is no meaningful reason. It is completely senseless.
- former prosecutor

So what do you think should happen in order to prevent car jackings? Harsh penalties or reduce the penalties so there are essentially zero consequences, which is what Charles Allen is doing?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crazy. We need to take a hard line on criminals. Things are getting out of control.

https://wtop.com/washington-commanders/2022/08/commanders-brian-robinson-shot-during-attempted-robbery-in-northeast-dc/
"District police said in a tweet that the shooting occurred around 5:30 p.m. on 10th & H Street NE, near Ben’s Chili Bowl."

Ever get takeout or eat at Ben's Chili Bowl? Dinner time! Does it get scrubbed from the list? And the victim is young, physically fit certainly but no match for DC teen criminals. Honestly, how did teenage guys not recognize him? I'm not a huge football fan yet when I see these guys going about normal person stuff even I get the know them from somewhere...

Unconfirmed reports say he was NOT in a flashy car. But I'm guessing it was at least a somewhat nice new vehicle, and you can tell when a young man has money from his fashion, designer sneakers, and likely wears a nice watch. I doubt the kids knew he was the new starting running back of the Commanders.

Feel bad for the Commanders player as well as for the solar panel repair guy. Hopefully the Commanders player recovers enough to play. They were just two young guys employed with decent jobs.

I hope his injuries do not end his career.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't worry , they will be back on the street before bedtime

Did you see the two suspects are allegedly minors? Wow just wow.

I think carjackings are almost always minors. It’s a sport of sorts that replaced stealing cars when stealing cars got harder/less fun because of anti-theft devices, mainly remote keys. You know, a sport where they occasionally kill people.

I sat on a jury for a carjacking and it was essentially that they were bored and they wanted a car to ride around in. They stole and hot wired an older car, but they wanted a better car with a key. So they carjacked a guy. The whole thing was incredibly stupid from soup to nuts. I’m not sure they even tried to not get caught.

+1. For the poster who asked if they ever interview the teens about why they do it, there is no meaningful reason. It is completely senseless.
- former prosecutor

Anonymous wrote:Crazy. We need to take a hard line on criminals. Things are getting out of control.

https://wtop.com/washington-commanders/2022/08/commanders-brian-robinson-shot-during-attempted-robbery-in-northeast-dc/
"District police said in a tweet that the shooting occurred around 5:30 p.m. on 10th & H Street NE, near Ben’s Chili Bowl."

Ever get takeout or eat at Ben's Chili Bowl? Dinner time! Does it get scrubbed from the list? And the victim is young, physically fit certainly but no match for DC teen criminals. Honestly, how did teenage guys not recognize him? I'm not a huge football fan yet when I see these guys going about normal person stuff even I get the know them from somewhere...