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Anonymous wrote:My 6th graders have 16 kids in their class. This is in McLean pyramid. This has been the case (16-18) for last 3 yrs. lots of kids here go private do plenty of space in public.

How many classes are there?

2 6th grade classes.

And what is the school? You can't claim this and not name it.

Franklin Sherman elementary, McLean. Lots of kids in this pyramid go to privates.

My bad, I checked with another parent, there are 3 6th grade classes. Sorry about the confusion but each around 16-18.

FCPS needs to address these major discrepancies - my child's has four 6th graded classes of 25-30 children each. Incredibly unfair. We'd like one of your teachers that you don't need, thanks.

Just be quiet. Your entitlement is so annoying.

No, sorry. This isn't about entitlement, it's about equity. And the fact that you probably don't know how to do math. Let me break it down for you, uneducated sweet summer child:

Rich kid school: 3x16 = 48. Could be 2 classes of 24 which is a great size!
socioeconomically diverse school: 3x28=84. Could be 4 classes of 21 students.

That seems a little more fair to me. You are not entitled to tiny classes because you live in a big house that daddy (oops, I mean husband) paid for.

It has nothing to do with rich kids. It is all dependent upon the formula. My kids went to Chesterbrook (tons of rich kids) and every class they had was 25-34 students (K-5 for one and k-6 for the other). The grade ahead and behind them had smaller classes because there were fewer children in those grades, but not fewer enough to warrant losing a class. There will always be discrepancies because there are always different numners of children in each grade in each school.

Were there late additions they year they had over 30? I know at our school the Principal is always reminding people to register early so that they know how many kids they have and can hire a Teacher when they get over 31 kids in a class. The one year DS had a class of 31 was a year with a few late additions. He is also in a language immersion program so they use every seat possible in first grade because they know that they will be losing kids and they cannot replace those kids. He is in 5th grade this year and has 19 kids in his class. But we are at a small school, we would probably have 3 classes per grade without the language immersion program. Right now we have 4 classes a grade.

For a few of the years, they started over 30. One year, they started at 34.

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Anonymous wrote:My 6th graders have 16 kids in their class. This is in McLean pyramid. This has been the case (16-18) for last 3 yrs. lots of kids here go private do plenty of space in public.

How many classes are there?

2 6th grade classes.

And what is the school? You can't claim this and not name it.

Franklin Sherman elementary, McLean. Lots of kids in this pyramid go to privates.

My bad, I checked with another parent, there are 3 6th grade classes. Sorry about the confusion but each around 16-18.

FCPS needs to address these major discrepancies - my child's has four 6th graded classes of 25-30 children each. Incredibly unfair. We'd like one of your teachers that you don't need, thanks.

Just be quiet. Your entitlement is so annoying.

No, sorry. This isn't about entitlement, it's about equity. And the fact that you probably don't know how to do math. Let me break it down for you, uneducated sweet summer child:

Rich kid school: 3x16 = 48. Could be 2 classes of 24 which is a great size!
socioeconomically diverse school: 3x28=84. Could be 4 classes of 21 students.

That seems a little more fair to me. You are not entitled to tiny classes because you live in a big house that daddy (oops, I mean husband) paid for.

It has nothing to do with rich kids. It is all dependent upon the formula. My kids went to Chesterbrook (tons of rich kids) and every class they had was 25-34 students (K-5 for one and k-6 for the other). The grade ahead and behind them had smaller classes because there were fewer children in those grades, but not fewer enough to warrant losing a class. There will always be discrepancies because there are always different numners of children in each grade in each school.

Were there late additions they year they had over 30? I know at our school the Principal is always reminding people to register early so that they know how many kids they have and can hire a Teacher when they get over 31 kids in a class. The one year DS had a class of 31 was a year with a few late additions. He is also in a language immersion program so they use every seat possible in first grade because they know that they will be losing kids and they cannot replace those kids. He is in 5th grade this year and has 19 kids in his class. But we are at a small school, we would probably have 3 classes per grade without the language immersion program. Right now we have 4 classes a grade.

I would LOVE for the county to publish school, grade level, and individual class sizes by school. I think parents need to see this and how even within a school it can vary!

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Anonymous wrote:My 6th graders have 16 kids in their class. This is in McLean pyramid. This has been the case (16-18) for last 3 yrs. lots of kids here go private do plenty of space in public.

How many classes are there?

2 6th grade classes.

And what is the school? You can't claim this and not name it.

Franklin Sherman elementary, McLean. Lots of kids in this pyramid go to privates.

My bad, I checked with another parent, there are 3 6th grade classes. Sorry about the confusion but each around 16-18.

FCPS needs to address these major discrepancies - my child's has four 6th graded classes of 25-30 children each. Incredibly unfair. We'd like one of your teachers that you don't need, thanks.

Just be quiet. Your entitlement is so annoying.

No, sorry. This isn't about entitlement, it's about equity. And the fact that you probably don't know how to do math. Let me break it down for you, uneducated sweet summer child:

Rich kid school: 3x16 = 48. Could be 2 classes of 24 which is a great size!
socioeconomically diverse school: 3x28=84. Could be 4 classes of 21 students.

That seems a little more fair to me. You are not entitled to tiny classes because you live in a big house that daddy (oops, I mean husband) paid for.

It has nothing to do with rich kids. It is all dependent upon the formula. My kids went to Chesterbrook (tons of rich kids) and every class they had was 25-34 students (K-5 for one and k-6 for the other). The grade ahead and behind them had smaller classes because there were fewer children in those grades, but not fewer enough to warrant losing a class. There will always be discrepancies because there are always different numners of children in each grade in each school.

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Anonymous wrote:My 6th graders have 16 kids in their class. This is in McLean pyramid. This has been the case (16-18) for last 3 yrs. lots of kids here go private do plenty of space in public.

How many classes are there?

2 6th grade classes.

And what is the school? You can't claim this and not name it.

Franklin Sherman elementary, McLean. Lots of kids in this pyramid go to privates.

The number going private before class assignments and staffing is irrelevant. It is as if those students do not exist. 1 class at 32-35+ is too large. Some base schools have run classes at 30+ present for core subject instruction with 1 teacher. - present for that core subject instruction can be those who are pulled out at another time slot during the academic day for sped, aap, FLI. Until FCPS published the per school per grade gross min, max , and average the public is stuck with anecdotal or parent compiled data.

Arlington publishes the gross class size numbers before staff push ins or student pull outs. FCPS does not publish this objective data. Why? Nor does it show or code gen ed staffing properly on per school detail budgets. https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2021-22-Class-Size-Report.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:My 6th graders have 16 kids in their class. This is in McLean pyramid. This has been the case (16-18) for last 3 yrs. lots of kids here go private do plenty of space in public.

How many classes are there?

2 6th grade classes.

And what is the school? You can't claim this and not name it.

Franklin Sherman elementary, McLean. Lots of kids in this pyramid go to privates.

My bad, I checked with another parent, there are 3 6th grade classes. Sorry about the confusion but each around 16-18.

FCPS needs to address these major discrepancies - my child's has four 6th graded classes of 25-30 children each. Incredibly unfair. We'd like one of your teachers that you don't need, thanks.

Yeah thats not how this works

Yeah well it’s not fair that FCPS gives extra to the wealthy families.

Like what? I’m truly interested in this. I’ve taught in a wealthy FCPS community and am now at a Title 1 school. I’m treated so much better at the Title 1 school. The quality of teachers and administrators is definitely stronger. I don’t get a lot of gifts during teacher appreciation week like i did at my last school, but who cares? That’s really the only thing I got “extra.”

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Anonymous wrote:My 6th graders have 16 kids in their class. This is in McLean pyramid. This has been the case (16-18) for last 3 yrs. lots of kids here go private do plenty of space in public.

How many classes are there?

2 6th grade classes.

And what is the school? You can't claim this and not name it.

Franklin Sherman elementary, McLean. Lots of kids in this pyramid go to privates.

My bad, I checked with another parent, there are 3 6th grade classes. Sorry about the confusion but each around 16-18.

FCPS needs to address these major discrepancies - my child's has four 6th graded classes of 25-30 children each. Incredibly unfair. We'd like one of your teachers that you don't need, thanks.

Yeah thats not how this works

Yeah well it’s not fair that FCPS gives extra to the wealthy families.

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Anonymous wrote:My 6th graders have 16 kids in their class. This is in McLean pyramid. This has been the case (16-18) for last 3 yrs. lots of kids here go private do plenty of space in public.

How many classes are there?

2 6th grade classes.

And what is the school? You can't claim this and not name it.

Franklin Sherman elementary, McLean. Lots of kids in this pyramid go to privates.

My bad, I checked with another parent, there are 3 6th grade classes. Sorry about the confusion but each around 16-18.

FCPS needs to address these major discrepancies - my child's has four 6th graded classes of 25-30 children each. Incredibly unfair. We'd like one of your teachers that you don't need, thanks.

Yeah thats not how this works

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Anonymous wrote:My 6th graders have 16 kids in their class. This is in McLean pyramid. This has been the case (16-18) for last 3 yrs. lots of kids here go private do plenty of space in public.

How many classes are there?

2 6th grade classes.

And what is the school? You can't claim this and not name it.

Franklin Sherman elementary, McLean. Lots of kids in this pyramid go to privates.

My bad, I checked with another parent, there are 3 6th grade classes. Sorry about the confusion but each around 16-18.

FCPS needs to address these major discrepancies - my child's has four 6th graded classes of 25-30 children each. Incredibly unfair. We'd like one of your teachers that you don't need, thanks.

Just be quiet. Your entitlement is so annoying.

No, sorry. This isn't about entitlement, it's about equity. And the fact that you probably don't know how to do math. Let me break it down for you, uneducated sweet summer child:

Rich kid school: 3x16 = 48. Could be 2 classes of 24 which is a great size!
socioeconomically diverse school: 3x28=84. Could be 4 classes of 21 students.

That seems a little more fair to me. You are not entitled to tiny classes because you live in a big house that daddy (oops, I mean husband) paid for.

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Anonymous wrote:Franklin Sherman has a sizable special Ed student population, that is most probably the defining factor in small class sizes.

If it's a SPED center like a CSS site, then those kids will likely be in self-contained.

It it's not a sped center, then there's no reason why they would have more kids with IEPs then any other school.

DP. I don’t know if that’s true. It’s also a reputation thing. I have a kid who has an iep but wouldn’t be in self-contained and when we were looking to buy we looked in the FS zone as well as a few other places but ultimately ended up somewhere else.

The attitude of the principal or assistant principal makes a huge difference. Our elementary school’s assistant principal’s main job in IEP meetings appeared to be to deny services. When he retired, it was night and day.

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Anonymous wrote:Franklin Sherman has a sizable special Ed student population, that is most probably the defining factor in small class sizes.

If it's a SPED center like a CSS site, then those kids will likely be in self-contained.

It it's not a sped center, then there's no reason why they would have more kids with IEPs then any other school.

DP. I don’t know if that’s true. It’s also a reputation thing. I have a kid who has an iep but wouldn’t be in self-contained and when we were looking to buy we looked in the FS zone as well as a few other places but ultimately ended up somewhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:Franklin Sherman has a sizable special Ed student population, that is most probably the defining factor in small class sizes.

If it's a SPED center like a CSS site, then those kids will likely be in self-contained.

It it's not a sped center, then there's no reason why they would have more kids with IEPs then any other school.

I don't know this particular situation, but some schools get a reputation for a strong SPED team and attract people who are looking for that. Just look at the SPED forum, they advise where to go and not to go.

Usually the advice in the SN forum is not to pick a school based on one person's experience because there is SO MUCH turnover for special ed, that a great team one year can disappear the next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Franklin Sherman has a sizable special Ed student population, that is most probably the defining factor in small class sizes.

If it's a SPED center like a CSS site, then those kids will likely be in self-contained.

It it's not a sped center, then there's no reason why they would have more kids with IEPs then any other school.

I don't know this particular situation, but some schools get a reputation for a strong SPED team and attract people who are looking for that. Just look at the SPED forum, they advise where to go and not to go.