Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why they couldn’t mind their business in the first place. No one was forced to get an abortion before - it was an OPTION. Now in a huge swathe of red states that’s gone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP's brand is to keep government out of people's lives, yet these laws are the complete opposite of that. Almost every American has either had an abortion herself (about 1 in 4 women have) or knows someone who has. People's personal experience with an issue is what most informs their opinion, and most Americans believe that abortion should be a personal choice.
Well is murder a personal choice? That's the thinking.
I’ve learned that if I am afraid of someone and believe they pose a threat to me, even if they’re unarmed, I’m allowed to gun them (a living, sentient person) down in the street. If I believe an embryo or fetus poses a threat to me and that makes me fear for my own life, why can’t I protect myself from that threat? Why is filling someone with lead more acceptable than taking a pill that simply ends cell division? You can even get away with shooting someone to protect property, but in some states, you can’t terminate a pregnancy to save your own life — even (in some cases) after the fetus has already died of natural causes!
Very good point. If the fetus is going to kill the mother, why is the fetus considered more important?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP's brand is to keep government out of people's lives, yet these laws are the complete opposite of that. Almost every American has either had an abortion herself (about 1 in 4 women have) or knows someone who has. People's personal experience with an issue is what most informs their opinion, and most Americans believe that abortion should be a personal choice.
Well is murder a personal choice? That's the thinking.
I’ve learned that if I am afraid of someone and believe they pose a threat to me, even if they’re unarmed, I’m allowed to gun them (a living, sentient person) down in the street. If I believe an embryo or fetus poses a threat to me and that makes me fear for my own life, why can’t I protect myself from that threat? Why is filling someone with lead more acceptable than taking a pill that simply ends cell division? You can even get away with shooting someone to protect property, but in some states, you can’t terminate a pregnancy to save your own life — even (in some cases) after the fetus has already died of natural causes!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP's brand is to keep government out of people's lives, yet these laws are the complete opposite of that. Almost every American has either had an abortion herself (about 1 in 4 women have) or knows someone who has. People's personal experience with an issue is what most informs their opinion, and most Americans believe that abortion should be a personal choice.
Well is murder a personal choice? That's the thinking.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP's brand is to keep government out of people's lives, yet these laws are the complete opposite of that. Almost every American has either had an abortion herself (about 1 in 4 women have) or knows someone who has. People's personal experience with an issue is what most informs their opinion, and most Americans believe that abortion should be a personal choice.
Well is murder a personal choice? That's the thinking.
Anonymous wrote:
I've had a Republican friend for a dozen years and only recently found out she had an abortion at 24 weeks. Fetus was extremely, extremely disabled and multiple experts confirmed. If the fetus made it to labor and a successful labor, medical bills would have immediately started snowballing into hundreds of thousands of dollars, her doctor warned her.
Having a baby is a basic bottom line economic decision, much more important than taxes or inflation.
Anonymous wrote:
I've had a Republican friend for a dozen years and only recently found out she had an abortion at 24 weeks. Fetus was extremely, extremely disabled and multiple experts confirmed. If the fetus made it to labor and a successful labor, medical bills would have immediately started snowballing into hundreds of thousands of dollars, her doctor warned her.
Having a baby is a basic bottom line economic decision, much more important than taxes or inflation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Dog catches car.
Same statement, different day
I'm a Republican and an attorney, I did think Roe V Wade was wrong in its logic and should have been overturned.
But I would vote in a heartbeat for rational middle-ground abortion legislation to preserve the right to it in the first 15 weeks, plus longer for rape, incest, fetal problems and the health of the mother.
The two extremes are nauseating.
But there's only one extreme here - the pro-life side. The Roe framework was a middle ground and statistically that was proven out over the 50 years it was in place. And yet, Republicans voted against codifying Roe.
Look, when you have people on the record publicly saying they think a 10 year old should have been forced to give birth and that you hope eventually the 10 year old would come to see her rape, pregnancy, and child as a blessing you have lost the argument. The overwhelming majority of people in this country are living in the real world. Come join us. It's actually pretty decent.
They don't care. They don't care about the fetus. If they did, then they'd be looking for better pre-natal and post-birth outcomes. They don't care about the mothers. OB care in red states is atrocious. And they certainly don't care about the kids -- see thoughts and prayers following regular school shootings. I'm not really sure what they care about.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dear LORD, do you people have anything better to do? Same old tired people spouting the same old tired things.
Dear lord, you must not care about women. Let me guess.. money is your god? You don't want to face reality. Stick your head in the sand until someone you know/love needs abortion, and then just go to a blue state to get the abortion?
I just don't see this as the most pressing issue right now across the US. Feeding one's family and sheltering one's family is much more important.