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Anonymous wrote:The notion that kids need to work is a very middle class idea. MC parents think that low-wage, unskilled work is the only way a kid can “learn the value of a dollar.” They also associate physical work with “real work.” UMC people have every expectation that their kid will never perform such a job, so they focus on providing their kid experiences, further education/tutoring, and social skills.

Most UMC have kids work. You are not UMC.

UMC kids scooping ice cream in a vacation town is classic summer job where you learn all of the people skills.

Yup. This is my niece on Nantucket. Scooping her way through college.

I have on friend who is a legit heiress ($100sM in the trust). Her oldest has started babysitting for pocket money. I’d expect that when she’s old enough she will scoop ice cream too.

Same. My friend is an heiress. Her kid will be working at Starbucks. My friend also held office jobs even when she didn’t need the money.

Anonymous wrote:The notion that kids need to work is a very middle class idea. MC parents think that low-wage, unskilled work is the only way a kid can “learn the value of a dollar.” They also associate physical work with “real work.” UMC people have every expectation that their kid will never perform such a job, so they focus on providing their kid experiences, further education/tutoring, and social skills.

Good thing jobs provide “experiences,” “further education,” and “social skills.”

The part you wrote about experiences makes no sense and is funny.

We are HHI and my parents are extremely wealthy (funded all of their grandchildren’s college). My kids and their cousins have worked since 15. They need to learn how to take direction from other adults. They also get nice vacations and the opportunities to study abroad.

My kids were raised to work. Games are for relaxing when you aren't working, if you happen to be a gamer. My 16 yr old and my 29 yr old are currently playing Destiny 2 together online when they aren't working. My 16 yr old does not have social media, does not use tik tok, and he plays chess online, not roblox.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I think they're mostly wasting their time. If they need the money, there are more lucrative jobs (usually office jobs where you wouldn't see them). If they don't need the money there are volunteer activities that are more educational and valuable.

Office jobs are what daddy gets you. I’d never hire a kid out of college who had never had a real job before. It says a lot about a person how they choose to spend their free time.

I'm the PP you responded to and I've tossed out resumes from grad students who only worked in service jobs. I don't think either of us is representative of all hiring managers but it's important for people to know that not all managers value ice cream scooping or whatever.

BTW my "daddy" works in the service industry. My main takeaway was that I never wanted to do that: I got myself first jobs like tutor and receptionist.

Why is that? Sounds like unresolved issues with your roots. Or you have a problem with kids who know how to deal with people.

15 yo DD is working 30 hours a week for 5 weeks this summer babysitting. It’s taught her responsibility and that work isn’t always fun but you need to stick it through, be on time, listen to your boss, etc…. She’s also volunteered a week, gone on vacation for 2, and lounged around for the rest. But she’s the type of kid that needs to keep busy. I think it’s good for them. Plus she has her own spending money now and doesn’t bother me all day to driver her around.

I worked hourly jobs (retail, restaurants) in high school and feel strongly that my kids should do a low rate hourly job at some point. I did not grow up wealthy but those experiences were important to me in 1) understanding what that kind of $ actually buys and 2) respecting how hard people with hourly jobs work. In college I did earn internships in my field, and that was important for my success. My DH grew up wealthy and has never had a job purely for the sake of earning $. His parents helped him get unpaid internships etc to boost his college applications. That was the case for many of the people I went to school with but especially my DHs law school crowd. I still remember being at a store and hearing the cashier talk about how great his second job was because he could sometimes nap for an hour or two- since he was working 2 8 hour shifts most days.

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Anonymous wrote:The notion that kids need to work is a very middle class idea. MC parents think that low-wage, unskilled work is the only way a kid can “learn the value of a dollar.” They also associate physical work with “real work.” UMC people have every expectation that their kid will never perform such a job, so they focus on providing their kid experiences, further education/tutoring, and social skills.

Ok but for all families except maybe the 1%-ers, the kids will need to work one day. It won't necessary be at a low-wage, unskilled job but the kids will need to earn money. Professional jobs still have basic requirements: answering to a boss, showing up every day, working during expected times of the day, etc. It's painfully obvious which 20-somethings never held any kind of job before graduating from college or grad school.

I am a one perecnter and all of mine work. Of course they had part time jobs in hs and college.

The notion that my peers don’t on a whole have their kids work is ridiculous, a gross generalization from either a new money idiot or well…

Cosine service Jobs are great for teens. They learn so many people skills and their EQ goes way up.

Anonymous wrote:Eh, they have the rest of their lives to work.

DD is working 6 weeks this summer. Vacationing (mostly doing adventure sports) another 4 weeks. Relaxing 2 weeks. Dental surgery another week. Balance.

You're spoiling your kid. Nice work.

It's fine if your kid works at a fast food or retail job, also fine if they do internships and volunteering, also fine if they are pursuing some personal project like sports or music. It's more important to be occupied and engaged than the exact thing that is being done. There is no one superior choice.

My 18 year old is working 60 hours a week. Taking home $1,000 a week after taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I think they're mostly wasting their time. If they need the money, there are more lucrative jobs (usually office jobs where you wouldn't see them). If they don't need the money there are volunteer activities that are more educational and valuable.

Office jobs are what daddy gets you. I’d never hire a kid out of college who had never had a real job before. It says a lot about a person how they choose to spend their free time.

I'm the PP you responded to and I've tossed out resumes from grad students who only worked in service jobs. I don't think either of us is representative of all hiring managers but it's important for people to know that not all managers value ice cream scooping or whatever.

BTW my "daddy" works in the service industry. My main takeaway was that I never wanted to do that: I got myself first jobs like tutor and receptionist.

Office jobs are for college internships. We are taking about teenagers working. Two different things.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I think they're mostly wasting their time. If they need the money, there are more lucrative jobs (usually office jobs where you wouldn't see them). If they don't need the money there are volunteer activities that are more educational and valuable.

Office jobs are what daddy gets you. I’d never hire a kid out of college who had never had a real job before. It says a lot about a person how they choose to spend their free time.

Same. I look for this.

Anonymous wrote:My 15 year old daughter is working (babysitting and at a public golf course). While we cover her needs I think it is good for her to have a job, taking direction from someone else, managing her schedule and also spending her own money on things she wants. She came home the other day as two different individuals (golfers) commented to her that she is “a hard worker” and they wanted her to know that and also shared their observations with the manager. She was so energized to hear their comments and was on cloud nine the rest of the day.

This is great. I also have a teenager working despite us having her college, etc., covered and the positive feedback is priceless. Same with taking direction and learning how to work with others when it isn’t just volunteering (which she has also done).