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Anonymous wrote:Do some research- CTE is not just a problem with football. It’s pervasive in soccer, hockey, basketball, (lacrosse - TBD). Do you really not let your kids play any of those sports?

This. A lot of the anti-football sentiment is just classism (and honestly, a little raciscm).

People who have never attended a youth football practice talk about how dangerous it is, but sign their children up for hockey or lacross or softball, where head injuries can also occur.

They don't like football bc they associate with Red countries and bigotry.

But here's the truth: any sport that has athletes sharing space and running at top speed has risk for injury.

And the other truth they don't want to hear: football is the absolute BEST way to get your child exposed to other kids, cultures and races. My son's baseball team is 100% white. His basketball team had 3 AA boys.

His football team: too many different cultures and races to count: Latin, AA, Asian, White.

Half the people on this board think its either a poor person's sport or a racist redneck sport. It is neither. It is a wonderful way for boys to get exercise, build character, and grow friendships

You are completely ignorant.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/new-87-deceased-nfl-players-test-positive-for-brain-disease/

96% of NFL players and 79% of all football players examined have CTE (WHICH IS NOT A CONCUSSION). If your kid plays football for any length of time, he will probably develop CTE.

How do you get that NFL players = CTE means that any length of youth football = CTE? You do know like 3% of youth football players even go on to play college and another 3% of those to NFL. Have you ever taken a stats course? What youth only football players have been examined for CTE for you to be able to make that statement? Just silly.

If only 3% of football players play after high school, then you have to assume that that 79% includes 97% youth only players.

CTE can only be diagnosed post-mortem, so we don't fully know how prevalent it is in football players relative to other sports or the general public. But what we now call CTE has been around for a long time. It used to be something called pugilist syndrome or punch-drunk syndrome and was primarily associated with boxing.

CTE can be caused by sub-concussive hits to the head, meaning it's not hard enough to cause a concussion but your brain is still rattling around inside your head.

Once you get a concussion, you are more susceptible to having subsequent, and more severe, concussions.

It doesn't take much for a young kid to get a concussion or a sub-concussive hit.

CTE isn't the only brain disorder potentially related to concussions and sub-concussive hits. There may very well be some connection to Parkinson's and Alzheimers and dementia. Mood disorders, substance abuse, suicide, aggression and depression are also common complaints of former football players, including those who only played Pop Warner or up to college-level.

This should be a concern for athletes of any high-contact sport, not just football. But it's more prevalent in football arguably because football is so rough and it's been a very common sport for like 70 years (i.e., more players).

So no, I will never let my kids play tackle football.

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Anonymous wrote:Never. Absolutely never. Football in schools won't even be a thing in 20 years. Don't do this to your child's brain and future. What a terrible thing to do. There are so many other sports to choose from that don't cause brain damage and future suicides and violent tendencies.

Ha. So we've been hearing for the last 20 years or so at least. FYIW, at my kids' DC private school, football is bigger than ever.

How many of those players are admitted (and on financial aid) to play football? It's getting nearly impossible for a lot of schools to field teams otherwise. Participation in tackle football has absolutely collapsed among children with educated and well off parents. Flag football, on the other hand, is taking off in a major way.

Quite a few Maret, Sidwell, Potomac, St Albans, and Landon boys are recruited football players.

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Anonymous wrote:Do some research- CTE is not just a problem with football. It’s pervasive in soccer, hockey, basketball, (lacrosse - TBD). Do you really not let your kids play any of those sports?

This. A lot of the anti-football sentiment is just classism (and honestly, a little raciscm).

People who have never attended a youth football practice talk about how dangerous it is, but sign their children up for hockey or lacross or softball, where head injuries can also occur.

They don't like football bc they associate with Red countries and bigotry.

But here's the truth: any sport that has athletes sharing space and running at top speed has risk for injury.

And the other truth they don't want to hear: football is the absolute BEST way to get your child exposed to other kids, cultures and races. My son's baseball team is 100% white. His basketball team had 3 AA boys.

His football team: too many different cultures and races to count: Latin, AA, Asian, White.

Half the people on this board think its either a poor person's sport or a racist redneck sport. It is neither. It is a wonderful way for boys to get exercise, build character, and grow friendships

You are completely ignorant.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/new-87-deceased-nfl-players-test-positive-for-brain-disease/

96% of NFL players and 79% of all football players examined have CTE (WHICH IS NOT A CONCUSSION). If your kid plays football for any length of time, he will probably develop CTE.

How do you get that NFL players = CTE means that any length of youth football = CTE? You do know like 3% of youth football players even go on to play college and another 3% of those to NFL. Have you ever taken a stats course? What youth only football players have been examined for CTE for you to be able to make that statement? Just silly.

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Anonymous wrote:Do some research- CTE is not just a problem with football. It’s pervasive in soccer, hockey, basketball, (lacrosse - TBD). Do you really not let your kids play any of those sports?

This. A lot of the anti-football sentiment is just classism (and honestly, a little raciscm).

People who have never attended a youth football practice talk about how dangerous it is, but sign their children up for hockey or lacross or softball, where head injuries can also occur.

They don't like football bc they associate with Red countries and bigotry.

But here's the truth: any sport that has athletes sharing space and running at top speed has risk for injury.

And the other truth they don't want to hear: football is the absolute BEST way to get your child exposed to other kids, cultures and races. My son's baseball team is 100% white. His basketball team had 3 AA boys.

His football team: too many different cultures and races to count: Latin, AA, Asian, White.

Half the people on this board think its either a poor person's sport or a racist redneck sport. It is neither. It is a wonderful way for boys to get exercise, build character, and grow friendships

You are completely ignorant.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/new-87-deceased-nfl-players-test-positive-for-brain-disease/

96% of NFL players and 79% of all football players examined have CTE (WHICH IS NOT A CONCUSSION). If your kid plays football for any length of time, he will probably develop CTE.

Anonymous wrote:Try Flag Star football. The organizers and coaches played college football and they take football really seriously but there is no chance of concussions. My DS got a lot out of it and played multiple years. I wish they continued with teams through high school.Of all the sports my DS played, who all said "We're just in it for the kids to have fun" Flag Star and summer swimming -- we lucked out with a great team and seasoned, fun coach -- were the only ones who actually meant it. It's a great organization. They're really in it for the players. Highly recommend!!

I watched a kid get carted off on a backboard with a neck brace when they collided with another kid in a flag football game.

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Anonymous wrote:Do some research- CTE is not just a problem with football. It’s pervasive in soccer, hockey, basketball, (lacrosse - TBD). Do you really not let your kids play any of those sports?

My son got a concussion playing basketball.

Yes, it's possible. But not as likely as when playing football. This is obvious.

The differences in sports aren’t as drastic as you are making it out to be. A 2019 study in Pediatrics regarding high school athletes:

“Overall, the data showed that the three sports with the highest concussion rates were:

Boys’ football, with 10.4 concussions per 10,000 athlete exposures.
Girls’ soccer, with 8.19 per 10,000 athlete exposures.
Boys’ ice hockey, with 7.69 per 10,000 athlete exposures.”

And yet no one seems overly concerned about girls’ soccer.

Again, the discussion is about CTE not concisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Do some research- CTE is not just a problem with football. It’s pervasive in soccer, hockey, basketball, (lacrosse - TBD). Do you really not let your kids play any of those sports?

My son got a concussion playing basketball.

Yes, it's possible. But not as likely as when playing football. This is obvious.

The differences in sports aren’t as drastic as you are making it out to be. A 2019 study in Pediatrics regarding high school athletes:

“Overall, the data showed that the three sports with the highest concussion rates were:

Boys’ football, with 10.4 concussions per 10,000 athlete exposures.
Girls’ soccer, with 8.19 per 10,000 athlete exposures.
Boys’ ice hockey, with 7.69 per 10,000 athlete exposures.”

And yet no one seems overly concerned about girls’ soccer.

I don't understand your logic. The exchange was about basketball.

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Anonymous wrote:Do some research- CTE is not just a problem with football. It’s pervasive in soccer, hockey, basketball, (lacrosse - TBD). Do you really not let your kids play any of those sports?

My son got a concussion playing basketball.

Yes, it's possible. But not as likely as when playing football. This is obvious.

The differences in sports aren’t as drastic as you are making it out to be. A 2019 study in Pediatrics regarding high school athletes:

“Overall, the data showed that the three sports with the highest concussion rates were:

Boys’ football, with 10.4 concussions per 10,000 athlete exposures.
Girls’ soccer, with 8.19 per 10,000 athlete exposures.
Boys’ ice hockey, with 7.69 per 10,000 athlete exposures.”

And yet no one seems overly concerned about girls’ soccer.

My cousin played tackle football in the Vienna area. It think the league was called Pop something. I had honestly never thought about the risk of CTE in kids sports since I didn’t have kids yet. The kids seemed to be having fun, but the injuries were common. My dad coached my brother’s soccer team so I had that comparison point.

The most disturbing part was that the coach regularly took the boys to Hooters after games.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can get injured or concussion with other sports but tackle football ,the percentage of getting serious injury is too high .
So nah , I’m not letting my kids play. No racism here or whatsoever!!!

Sure. But the point people are making is that people say stuff like you just said, but let their daughters play soccer, or their sons play basketball.

Basketball athletes are the most likely to go the ER. Female soccer athletes are the second most likey to get a concussion.

I'm not saying football isn't dangerous; it is.

But people act like youth football is thunderdome or the hunger games. Its not

Here's the thing though. Lifelong CTE doesn't come from just concussions. Why football is so pernicious Is the constant rattling of your head around in the helmet from drills even. I personally don't think anyone should play the sport, but the research shows not before 12 at all because of this issue

They think that even being exposed to loud bangs, like veterans exposed to explosions, can cause concussions. It's not just direct hits. Our brains are precious. We're useless without them, and life with CTE looks like hell on earth for the person suffering from it and their families.

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Anonymous wrote:Do some research- CTE is not just a problem with football. It’s pervasive in soccer, hockey, basketball, (lacrosse - TBD). Do you really not let your kids play any of those sports?

My son got a concussion playing basketball.

Yes, it's possible. But not as likely as when playing football. This is obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes you can get injured or concussion with other sports but tackle football ,the percentage of getting serious injury is too high .
So nah , I’m not letting my kids play. No racism here or whatsoever!!!

Sure. But the point people are making is that people say stuff like you just said, but let their daughters play soccer, or their sons play basketball.

Basketball athletes are the most likely to go the ER. Female soccer athletes are the second most likey to get a concussion.

I'm not saying football isn't dangerous; it is.

But people act like youth football is thunderdome or the hunger games. Its not

You keep confusing CTE statistics, which show that boxing and football are in a class by themselves in this country, and concussion rates. Yes, concussions are a concern in multiple sports. The one place I could find stats on CTE's though it was 66% in pro football players and 9% in basketball. That's an enormous difference.

Anonymous wrote:Do some research- CTE is not just a problem with football. It’s pervasive in soccer, hockey, basketball, (lacrosse - TBD). Do you really not let your kids play any of those sports?

My son got a concussion playing basketball.

) Chronic traumatic encephalopathy is a degenerative brain disease caused by repetitive hits
CTE is not about single concussions. It’s the result of repeated concussions — and even head impacts that are not quite as severe — which can result in lasting structural changes in the brain. “The pain you feel [after a hit] is not necessarily an indicator of the damage that does to your head,” Philip Bayly

AND

A 2015 study found that former NFL players who began football before age 12 fared worse on cognitive assessments than those who started later in their teens. And this held true even controlling for number of years played.

It suggests (though not conclusively) that playing football at ages younger than 12 is more dangerous for long-term cognitive decline than starting at an older age

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/2/2/16956440/super-bowl-2020-concussion-symptoms-cte-football-nfl-brain-damage-youth