Anonymous
07/31/2022 11:59
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Friends, THEY DID WORK. But many of us got vaccinated for the first time 18 months ago and the virus has mutated a lot in that time. Please stop screaming they don’t work. All that does is dissuade people from getting a newly formulated vaccine that can target the omicron strains better once they’re available.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 11:52
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
Same in my house. Vaxxed and boosted way sicker. And they want us to get more shots.
It’s complete luck of the draw who gets hit hard and who never even has symptoms. I haven’t had bad symptoms but they’ve lasted almost 2 weeks. My husbands weren’t bad but almost gone after 1 week. We both have been boosted once and of the two, I eat better and exercise frequently and am probably overall healthier. My youngest got it and has had almost no symptoms other than sore throat but she also just got boosted on July 8. So your theory wouldn’t work in our family and it doesn’t work outside your own. Vaccines and boosters helped with previous strains. With this one, it’s anyones guess how bad you’ll get it, almost like when you’d get cvid before we ever had vaccines.
Time to hault all vaccines and boosters until there is proof it will work on the current strain. It's just a cash grab at this point.
Totally agree. What's most disappointing to me is Americans are championing these vaccines...that do not work! We should not accept the narrative that the Covid vaccine prevents hospitalization. No one would accept the idea that the polio vaccine only prevents partial paralysis. Why, as a nation, are we not pushing for a better vaccine. One that works and doesn't require a 'booster (that doesn't work)' every 5 months.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 11:38
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
Same in my house. Vaxxed and boosted way sicker. And they want us to get more shots.
It’s complete luck of the draw who gets hit hard and who never even has symptoms. I haven’t had bad symptoms but they’ve lasted almost 2 weeks. My husbands weren’t bad but almost gone after 1 week. We both have been boosted once and of the two, I eat better and exercise frequently and am probably overall healthier. My youngest got it and has had almost no symptoms other than sore throat but she also just got boosted on July 8. So your theory wouldn’t work in our family and it doesn’t work outside your own. Vaccines and boosters helped with previous strains. With this one, it’s anyones guess how bad you’ll get it, almost like when you’d get cvid before we ever had vaccines.
Time to hault all vaccines and boosters until there is proof it will work on the current strain. It's just a cash grab at this point.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 11:02
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.
The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.
And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it
People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.
Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.
I’m happy for you if you and your household members have no health issues, but the reality is around half of American adults have one of the underlying conditions that make severe COVID more likely. Since most people don’t live alone in a bubble, that means the vast majority of households have at least one person who is obese, has a heart problem, is severely asthmatic, etc.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 10:57
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
Same in my house. Vaxxed and boosted way sicker. And they want us to get more shots.
Not for me or many others I know. Unvaxxedd severe disease and died. Vaxxed had much less severe cases and did not need hospitalization.
The vaccine protects against severe disease and hospitalization.
When? This was true pre-Omicron. I know someone who was vaccinated and boosted twice who was recently hospitalized with this latest strain. The vaccines and boosters worked against the OG and delta strains. They are worthless now.
Wow—you “knew someone”! So impressed!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00462-7/fulltext
“Booster vaccination with an mRNA vaccine was highly protective against hospitalisation and death in omicron cases (HR for hospital admission 8–11 weeks post-booster vs unvaccinated: 0·22 [0·20–0·24]), with the protection afforded after a booster not being affected by the vaccine used for doses 1 and 2.”
Another article:
“Efficacy against variants of concern — Several SARS-CoV-2 variants that are concerning for their potential for immune escape have emerged over the course of the pandemic (table 6). For the Omicron variant and its sublineages (BA.1, BA.2, BA.2.12.1, BA.4, and BA.5), COVID-19 vaccines remain effective in preventing severe disease, but effectiveness in preventing symptomatic infection is attenuated.”
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/covid-19-vaccines#H1892303479
Anonymous
07/31/2022 10:53
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.
The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.
And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it
No, doesn’t make me think. Just about everything you wrote is incorrect.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 10:50
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
Same in my house. Vaxxed and boosted way sicker. And they want us to get more shots.
Not for me or many others I know. Unvaxxedd severe disease and died. Vaxxed had much less severe cases and did not need hospitalization.
The vaccine protects against severe disease and hospitalization.
When? This was true pre-Omicron. I know someone who was vaccinated and boosted twice who was recently hospitalized with this latest strain. The vaccines and boosters worked against the OG and delta strains. They are worthless now.
Wow—you “knew someone”! So impressed!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00462-7/fulltext
“Booster vaccination with an mRNA vaccine was highly protective against hospitalisation and death in omicron cases (HR for hospital admission 8–11 weeks post-booster vs unvaccinated: 0·22 [0·20–0·24]), with the protection afforded after a booster not being affected by the vaccine used for doses 1 and 2.”
Anonymous
07/31/2022 10:48
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
Same in my house. Vaxxed and boosted way sicker. And they want us to get more shots.
Not for me or many others I know. Unvaxxedd severe disease and died. Vaxxed had much less severe cases and did not need hospitalization.
The vaccine protects against severe disease and hospitalization.
When? This was true pre-Omicron. I know someone who was vaccinated and boosted twice who was recently hospitalized with this latest strain. The vaccines and boosters worked against the OG and delta strains. They are worthless now.
Wow—you “knew someone”! So impressed!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00462-7/fulltext
Anonymous
07/31/2022 10:43
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.
The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.
And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it
First of all, omicron is killing people.
Second of all, no one under fifty is allowed to get a fourth shot unless they are immunocompromised! Not only is no one pushing young healthy adults to get a fourth shot, they aren’t allowed to! I’m diabetic and asthmatic and forty eight and can’t get a fourth shot.
So much misinformation
Anonymous
07/31/2022 10:41
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.
The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.
And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it
Wtf. Yes, omicron is killing people.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 10:28
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
Sample size of 4, reported anonymously on a moms forum is surely the kind of scientific rigor that will hold up in court!
Do you actually disagree though? Pushing boosters with almost zero efficacy on healthy, young people seems almost criminal at this point.
I'm a vaccine fan, and I tend to agree. News is ramping up on Omicron boosters being available early Fall. The current vaccines are 1.5+ years old.
By fall, will these even be effective? I’m not rushing out to boost my family. We’ve all had omicron and it wasn’t bad at all. I don’t think boosters are needed for the young and healthy. And I’ve lost trust in the FDA so I’m not convinced these new boosters will be better than what we have now, especially as Covid continues to mutate.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 10:24
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
Same in my house. Vaxxed and boosted way sicker. And they want us to get more shots.
Not for me or many others I know. Unvaxxedd severe disease and died. Vaxxed had much less severe cases and did not need hospitalization.
The vaccine protects against severe disease and hospitalization.
When? This was true pre-Omicron. I know someone who was vaccinated and boosted twice who was recently hospitalized with this latest strain. The vaccines and boosters worked against the OG and delta strains. They are worthless now.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 10:19
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.
The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.
And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it
People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.
Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 09:58
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.
The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.
And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it
People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.
Anonymous
07/31/2022 08:30
Subject: COVID infection is brutal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer
Sample size of 4, reported anonymously on a moms forum is surely the kind of scientific rigor that will hold up in court!
Do you actually disagree though? Pushing boosters with almost zero efficacy on healthy, young people seems almost criminal at this point.
Which is why nobody is actually pushing the currently available boosters right now. Biden admin didn’t approve them widely because they know they aren’t effective against this strain and are hoping the new ones later this fall will be.