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Anonymous wrote:I chose to vote for Moore because Perez was an absolute disaster as chair of the dnc. Sometimes experience shows a candidate doesn’t have the goods.

I didn’t vote for Perez either but while he was DNC chair the Democrats gained back control of the House, the Presidency, and the Senate. Really not sure how anyone could call that an “absolute disaster.”

The presidential nomination process was a disaster and he consistently favored candidates too far to the left to win.

Plus, he’s a bad manager. The environment at the DNC was toxic. I think of Wes Moore as an inspirational leader in the mold of Barack Obama.

Obama spent 8 years in the IL state legislature before he ran for higher office.

…as a sitting U.S. Senator.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t find information about the misrepresentation and lies Would somebody link or be able to give a neutral explanation?


Though at this point it doesn’t matter because I’m not voting for Dan Cox. So it’s Moore or bust.

Here’s a CNN article breaking it down:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/13/politics/wes-moore-baltimore-origin-story-campaign-governor-maryland/index.html

Moore walked under umbrellas in the rain with Judy Woodruff, telling her, "These were areas that we knew. These were blocks that we knew.

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s why you can’t vote for Moore then you see simply reinforcing the biggest issue with the D party. The party loves to sbmnwct defeat from the jaws of victory and continues to perpetuate values signaling to their own demise. Nothing in that article gives me pause about Moore as a candidate or eventual Governor of the State of MD.

Expecting integrity and honesty from a candidate is not “values signaling.” We all make mistakes in life and I can accept that candidates are human, but when I see repeated red flags of dishonesty, it is absolutely going to cause me to pause. I felt the same way with Biden at first, considering his repeated allegations of plagiarism. I voted for him, as I will Moore, but it will absolutely be with reservation. I value honesty.

It’s a moral high horse that Ds love to perch themselves upon an end up looking like hypocrites in the process. His mother moved to Pasadena when he was 16, while he attended middle school. It Is quite common for AA who grew up in Pasadena or Columbia to spend their time in Baltimore as teenagers. The book is telling the story of how his life could’ve gone in a very different direction and the fact that he split time between the Bronx, MD and military school and became a scholar is the point of his story. Thinking like yours is exactly why decent people don’t run for office.

Just stop. He literally said in interviews that he and the other Wes Moore grew up in the same streets. I’m not saying this is a fatal flaw, but please stop pretending that he didn’t completely misrepresent his background in the name of selling a book. The insistence that the misrepresentation didn’t take place makes it worse.

If you say so 🙄

The denial is becoming Trumpian. I didn’t say so, Wes Moore said so. Read the CNN article linked above.

I read the article, the book and listened to his speeches, your assertions are a stretch.

My kids are growing up as close to Baltimore as Pasadena and if they ever said they grew up in Baltimore I would laugh in their faces! Absurd.

I promise that your teens will end up running around Baltimore without your knowledge. That seems to be the gist of Moore's claim - he was running around Baltimore when he was an adolescent and young man. Just like every other suburban kid in Bethesda who ran into DC to hang out with their friends in those same decades.

Here’s the thing, this wasn’t the gist of his claims. He wrote a book that was premised on 2 Wes Moores growing up at the same time in Baltimore who followed very different paths. This book was not premised on Wes from Pasadena who came into Baltimore to hang with friends on break from military school and Wes from Baltimore who was running the streets taking 2 different paths in life. No one would have cared about Wes from Pasadena’s path vs. Wes from Baltimore’s path, so he stretched the truth to create a hook for a book.

Anonymous wrote:I was torn between Moore and Perez, but objectively, Perez has far more experience working in government and politics than Moore. How is that even a question? Whether you think Perez did a good job in his positions is subject to debate.

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Anonymous wrote:I chose to vote for Moore because Perez was an absolute disaster as chair of the dnc. Sometimes experience shows a candidate doesn’t have the goods.

I didn’t vote for Perez either but while he was DNC chair the Democrats gained back control of the House, the Presidency, and the Senate. Really not sure how anyone could call that an “absolute disaster.”

The presidential nomination process was a disaster and he consistently favored candidates too far to the left to win.

Plus, he’s a bad manager. The environment at the DNC was toxic. I think of Wes Moore as an inspirational leader in the mold of Barack Obama.

Obama spent 8 years in the IL state legislature before he ran for higher office.

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Anonymous wrote:I chose to vote for Moore because Perez was an absolute disaster as chair of the dnc. Sometimes experience shows a candidate doesn’t have the goods.

I didn’t vote for Perez either but while he was DNC chair the Democrats gained back control of the House, the Presidency, and the Senate. Really not sure how anyone could call that an “absolute disaster.”

The presidential nomination process was a disaster and he consistently favored candidates too far to the left to win.

Plus, he’s a bad manager. The environment at the DNC was toxic. I think of Wes Moore as an inspirational leader in the mold of Barack Obama.

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Anonymous wrote:I chose to vote for Moore because Perez was an absolute disaster as chair of the dnc. Sometimes experience shows a candidate doesn’t have the goods.

I didn’t vote for Perez either but while he was DNC chair the Democrats gained back control of the House, the Presidency, and the Senate. Really not sure how anyone could call that an “absolute disaster.”

The presidential nomination process was a disaster and he consistently favored candidates too far to the left to win.

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s why you can’t vote for Moore then you see simply reinforcing the biggest issue with the D party. The party loves to sbmnwct defeat from the jaws of victory and continues to perpetuate values signaling to their own demise. Nothing in that article gives me pause about Moore as a candidate or eventual Governor of the State of MD.

Expecting integrity and honesty from a candidate is not “values signaling.” We all make mistakes in life and I can accept that candidates are human, but when I see repeated red flags of dishonesty, it is absolutely going to cause me to pause. I felt the same way with Biden at first, considering his repeated allegations of plagiarism. I voted for him, as I will Moore, but it will absolutely be with reservation. I value honesty.

It’s a moral high horse that Ds love to perch themselves upon an end up looking like hypocrites in the process. His mother moved to Pasadena when he was 16, while he attended middle school. It Is quite common for AA who grew up in Pasadena or Columbia to spend their time in Baltimore as teenagers. The book is telling the story of how his life could’ve gone in a very different direction and the fact that he split time between the Bronx, MD and military school and became a scholar is the point of his story. Thinking like yours is exactly why decent people don’t run for office.

Just stop. He literally said in interviews that he and the other Wes Moore grew up in the same streets. I’m not saying this is a fatal flaw, but please stop pretending that he didn’t completely misrepresent his background in the name of selling a book. The insistence that the misrepresentation didn’t take place makes it worse.

If you say so 🙄

The denial is becoming Trumpian. I didn’t say so, Wes Moore said so. Read the CNN article linked above.

I read the article, the book and listened to his speeches, your assertions are a stretch.

My kids are growing up as close to Baltimore as Pasadena and if they ever said they grew up in Baltimore I would laugh in their faces! Absurd.

I promise that your teens will end up running around Baltimore without your knowledge. That seems to be the gist of Moore's claim - he was running around Baltimore when he was an adolescent and young man. Just like every other suburban kid in Bethesda who ran into DC to hang out with their friends in those same decades.

That won’t be happening, nor did I do that growing up in the suburbs. More importantly, it is still a major misrepresentation that raises questions about character.

You weren't very cool as a teen. I went into DC most weekends for the $5 shows that Whitman Walker put on. 3 bands for $5 and a speech about safe sex. I also enjoyed pouring rum into a big gulp and turning up at straight edge shows, lol. I was 16 and from Kensington.

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s why you can’t vote for Moore then you see simply reinforcing the biggest issue with the D party. The party loves to sbmnwct defeat from the jaws of victory and continues to perpetuate values signaling to their own demise. Nothing in that article gives me pause about Moore as a candidate or eventual Governor of the State of MD.

Expecting integrity and honesty from a candidate is not “values signaling.” We all make mistakes in life and I can accept that candidates are human, but when I see repeated red flags of dishonesty, it is absolutely going to cause me to pause. I felt the same way with Biden at first, considering his repeated allegations of plagiarism. I voted for him, as I will Moore, but it will absolutely be with reservation. I value honesty.

It’s a moral high horse that Ds love to perch themselves upon an end up looking like hypocrites in the process. His mother moved to Pasadena when he was 16, while he attended middle school. It Is quite common for AA who grew up in Pasadena or Columbia to spend their time in Baltimore as teenagers. The book is telling the story of how his life could’ve gone in a very different direction and the fact that he split time between the Bronx, MD and military school and became a scholar is the point of his story. Thinking like yours is exactly why decent people don’t run for office.

Just stop. He literally said in interviews that he and the other Wes Moore grew up in the same streets. I’m not saying this is a fatal flaw, but please stop pretending that he didn’t completely misrepresent his background in the name of selling a book. The insistence that the misrepresentation didn’t take place makes it worse.

If you say so 🙄

The denial is becoming Trumpian. I didn’t say so, Wes Moore said so. Read the CNN article linked above.

I read the article, the book and listened to his speeches, your assertions are a stretch.

My kids are growing up as close to Baltimore as Pasadena and if they ever said they grew up in Baltimore I would laugh in their faces! Absurd.

I promise that your teens will end up running around Baltimore without your knowledge. That seems to be the gist of Moore's claim - he was running around Baltimore when he was an adolescent and young man. Just like every other suburban kid in Bethesda who ran into DC to hang out with their friends in those same decades.

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Anonymous wrote:DP. Moore won't struggle against Cox, those who think he will are fools and are making snap judgements based off of assumptions.

And a lot of people thought Glenn Youngkin could never, ever beat Terry. Virginia is a blue state, case closed.

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s why you can’t vote for Moore then you see simply reinforcing the biggest issue with the D party. The party loves to sbmnwct defeat from the jaws of victory and continues to perpetuate values signaling to their own demise. Nothing in that article gives me pause about Moore as a candidate or eventual Governor of the State of MD.

Expecting integrity and honesty from a candidate is not “values signaling.” We all make mistakes in life and I can accept that candidates are human, but when I see repeated red flags of dishonesty, it is absolutely going to cause me to pause. I felt the same way with Biden at first, considering his repeated allegations of plagiarism. I voted for him, as I will Moore, but it will absolutely be with reservation. I value honesty.

It’s a moral high horse that Ds love to perch themselves upon an end up looking like hypocrites in the process. His mother moved to Pasadena when he was 16, while he attended middle school. It Is quite common for AA who grew up in Pasadena or Columbia to spend their time in Baltimore as teenagers. The book is telling the story of how his life could’ve gone in a very different direction and the fact that he split time between the Bronx, MD and military school and became a scholar is the point of his story. Thinking like yours is exactly why decent people don’t run for office.

Just stop. He literally said in interviews that he and the other Wes Moore grew up in the same streets. I’m not saying this is a fatal flaw, but please stop pretending that he didn’t completely misrepresent his background in the name of selling a book. The insistence that the misrepresentation didn’t take place makes it worse.

If you say so 🙄

The denial is becoming Trumpian. I didn’t say so, Wes Moore said so. Read the CNN article linked above.

I read the article, the book and listened to his speeches, your assertions are a stretch.

My kids are growing up as close to Baltimore as Pasadena and if they ever said they grew up in Baltimore I would laugh in their faces! Absurd.

I promise that your teens will end up running around Baltimore without your knowledge. That seems to be the gist of Moore's claim - he was running around Baltimore when he was an adolescent and young man. Just like every other suburban kid in Bethesda who ran into DC to hang out with their friends in those same decades.

That won’t be happening, nor did I do that growing up in the suburbs. More importantly, it is still a major misrepresentation that raises questions about character.

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s why you can’t vote for Moore then you see simply reinforcing the biggest issue with the D party. The party loves to sbmnwct defeat from the jaws of victory and continues to perpetuate values signaling to their own demise. Nothing in that article gives me pause about Moore as a candidate or eventual Governor of the State of MD.

Expecting integrity and honesty from a candidate is not “values signaling.” We all make mistakes in life and I can accept that candidates are human, but when I see repeated red flags of dishonesty, it is absolutely going to cause me to pause. I felt the same way with Biden at first, considering his repeated allegations of plagiarism. I voted for him, as I will Moore, but it will absolutely be with reservation. I value honesty.

It’s a moral high horse that Ds love to perch themselves upon an end up looking like hypocrites in the process. His mother moved to Pasadena when he was 16, while he attended middle school. It Is quite common for AA who grew up in Pasadena or Columbia to spend their time in Baltimore as teenagers. The book is telling the story of how his life could’ve gone in a very different direction and the fact that he split time between the Bronx, MD and military school and became a scholar is the point of his story. Thinking like yours is exactly why decent people don’t run for office.

Just stop. He literally said in interviews that he and the other Wes Moore grew up in the same streets. I’m not saying this is a fatal flaw, but please stop pretending that he didn’t completely misrepresent his background in the name of selling a book. The insistence that the misrepresentation didn’t take place makes it worse.

If you say so 🙄

The denial is becoming Trumpian. I didn’t say so, Wes Moore said so. Read the CNN article linked above.

I read the article, the book and listened to his speeches, your assertions are a stretch.

My kids are growing up as close to Baltimore as Pasadena and if they ever said they grew up in Baltimore I would laugh in their faces! Absurd.

People in the surrounding suburbs claim cities like DC, Baltimore, LA, Boston and NYC all the time As the article states, people who live in Baltimore county claim Baltimore, does it make people in Baltimore proper happy? No, but it is not uncommon.

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s why you can’t vote for Moore then you see simply reinforcing the biggest issue with the D party. The party loves to sbmnwct defeat from the jaws of victory and continues to perpetuate values signaling to their own demise. Nothing in that article gives me pause about Moore as a candidate or eventual Governor of the State of MD.

Expecting integrity and honesty from a candidate is not “values signaling.” We all make mistakes in life and I can accept that candidates are human, but when I see repeated red flags of dishonesty, it is absolutely going to cause me to pause. I felt the same way with Biden at first, considering his repeated allegations of plagiarism. I voted for him, as I will Moore, but it will absolutely be with reservation. I value honesty.

It’s a moral high horse that Ds love to perch themselves upon an end up looking like hypocrites in the process. His mother moved to Pasadena when he was 16, while he attended middle school. It Is quite common for AA who grew up in Pasadena or Columbia to spend their time in Baltimore as teenagers. The book is telling the story of how his life could’ve gone in a very different direction and the fact that he split time between the Bronx, MD and military school and became a scholar is the point of his story. Thinking like yours is exactly why decent people don’t run for office.

Just stop. He literally said in interviews that he and the other Wes Moore grew up in the same streets. I’m not saying this is a fatal flaw, but please stop pretending that he didn’t completely misrepresent his background in the name of selling a book. The insistence that the misrepresentation didn’t take place makes it worse.

If you say so 🙄

The denial is becoming Trumpian. I didn’t say so, Wes Moore said so. Read the CNN article linked above.

I read the article, the book and listened to his speeches, your assertions are a stretch.

My kids are growing up as close to Baltimore as Pasadena and if they ever said they grew up in Baltimore I would laugh in their faces! Absurd.

I promise that your teens will end up running around Baltimore without your knowledge. That seems to be the gist of Moore's claim - he was running around Baltimore when he was an adolescent and young man. Just like every other suburban kid in Bethesda who ran into DC to hang out with their friends in those same decades.

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s why you can’t vote for Moore then you see simply reinforcing the biggest issue with the D party. The party loves to sbmnwct defeat from the jaws of victory and continues to perpetuate values signaling to their own demise. Nothing in that article gives me pause about Moore as a candidate or eventual Governor of the State of MD.

Expecting integrity and honesty from a candidate is not “values signaling.” We all make mistakes in life and I can accept that candidates are human, but when I see repeated red flags of dishonesty, it is absolutely going to cause me to pause. I felt the same way with Biden at first, considering his repeated allegations of plagiarism. I voted for him, as I will Moore, but it will absolutely be with reservation. I value honesty.

It’s a moral high horse that Ds love to perch themselves upon an end up looking like hypocrites in the process. His mother moved to Pasadena when he was 16, while he attended middle school. It Is quite common for AA who grew up in Pasadena or Columbia to spend their time in Baltimore as teenagers. The book is telling the story of how his life could’ve gone in a very different direction and the fact that he split time between the Bronx, MD and military school and became a scholar is the point of his story. Thinking like yours is exactly why decent people don’t run for office.

Just stop. He literally said in interviews that he and the other Wes Moore grew up in the same streets. I’m not saying this is a fatal flaw, but please stop pretending that he didn’t completely misrepresent his background in the name of selling a book. The insistence that the misrepresentation didn’t take place makes it worse.

If you say so 🙄

The denial is becoming Trumpian. I didn’t say so, Wes Moore said so. Read the CNN article linked above.

I read the article, the book and listened to his speeches, your assertions are a stretch.

My kids are growing up as close to Baltimore as Pasadena and if they ever said they grew up in Baltimore I would laugh in their faces! Absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:If that’s why you can’t vote for Moore then you see simply reinforcing the biggest issue with the D party. The party loves to sbmnwct defeat from the jaws of victory and continues to perpetuate values signaling to their own demise. Nothing in that article gives me pause about Moore as a candidate or eventual Governor of the State of MD.

Expecting integrity and honesty from a candidate is not “values signaling.” We all make mistakes in life and I can accept that candidates are human, but when I see repeated red flags of dishonesty, it is absolutely going to cause me to pause. I felt the same way with Biden at first, considering his repeated allegations of plagiarism. I voted for him, as I will Moore, but it will absolutely be with reservation. I value honesty.

It’s a moral high horse that Ds love to perch themselves upon an end up looking like hypocrites in the process. His mother moved to Pasadena when he was 16, while he attended middle school. It Is quite common for AA who grew up in Pasadena or Columbia to spend their time in Baltimore as teenagers. The book is telling the story of how his life could’ve gone in a very different direction and the fact that he split time between the Bronx, MD and military school and became a scholar is the point of his story. Thinking like yours is exactly why decent people don’t run for office.

Just stop. He literally said in interviews that he and the other Wes Moore grew up in the same streets. I’m not saying this is a fatal flaw, but please stop pretending that he didn’t completely misrepresent his background in the name of selling a book. The insistence that the misrepresentation didn’t take place makes it worse.

If you say so 🙄

The denial is becoming Trumpian. I didn’t say so, Wes Moore said so. Read the CNN article linked above.

I read the article, the book and listened to his speeches, your assertions are a stretch.

My kids are growing up as close to Baltimore as Pasadena and if they ever said they grew up in Baltimore I would laugh in their faces! Absurd.