Anonymous
07/23/2022 00:00
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Doesnt a computer spit out the PR times, availability, and force rank them?
Anonymous
07/22/2022 23:56
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, our college age coaches charge $40 for a 30 min lesson.
Do you think that's on the upper end? Ours is $30.
Was $25 /30 mins last year so if no progress change instructors
Anonymous
07/22/2022 14:18
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Are you saying that some of the non-club swimmers have posted faster times and he is ignoring those times and just putting the club swimmers in the A meets anyway? Because if the club swimmers have the fastest times that’s not favoritism, they are just faster because they swim 11 months out of the year.
Yes
I’m MCSL team rep, you have to have swam in an A meet to be eligible for divisionals. Swimmers also can’t be seeded in on anything but A meet times from this year. In the rule book.
Anonymous
07/22/2022 14:11
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Are you saying that some of the non-club swimmers have posted faster times and he is ignoring those times and just putting the club swimmers in the A meets anyway? Because if the club swimmers have the fastest times that’s not favoritism, they are just faster because they swim 11 months out of the year.
Yes
I’m sorry but I’m finding this very hard to believe. I’ve never heard of a summer swim team saying oh look Larla swam the 50 breast in 43 seconds, but Karla is one of my club swimmers so even though she posted 46 seconds, into the A meet she goes. If this was actually happening, this is something pretty easily taken to the reps to get an explanation. Even when a club doesn’t publish the ladder, the reps have it.
I would definitely go to the reps if this is happening. The coaches work for the team/reps and would most certainly be held accountable for that kind of thing.
Seeding a slower swimmer over a faster one bc the slower swimmer is a year-round swimmer would never fly at our pool. The only possible time it happens is when the coach has to run the best lineup for a team (so maybe a kid isn’t swimming their best stroke bc they are needed elsewhere). But then it is pretty transparent and benefits entire team. If anything, the coach who coached club makes an effort to give non/club kids a chance - but again that would only be done in situations where the team would absolutely win.
Also, the only carry-forward times are in time trials. After that, only this year’s times are considered.
I would look at team by-laws. I would be surprised if the coach could take out a faster swimmer to out in a slower as you described. Unless there was some sort of disciplinary issue.
Anonymous
07/22/2022 13:41
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Are you saying that some of the non-club swimmers have posted faster times and he is ignoring those times and just putting the club swimmers in the A meets anyway? Because if the club swimmers have the fastest times that’s not favoritism, they are just faster because they swim 11 months out of the year.
Yes
we have not rehired coaches that do this kind of thing.
I’m sorry but I’m finding this very hard to believe. I’ve never heard of a summer swim team saying oh look Larla swam the 50 breast in 43 seconds, but Karla is one of my club swimmers so even though she posted 46 seconds, into the A meet she goes. If this was actually happening, this is something pretty easily taken to the reps to get an explanation. Even when a club doesn’t publish the ladder, the reps have it.
Anonymous
07/22/2022 13:41
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Are you saying that some of the non-club swimmers have posted faster times and he is ignoring those times and just putting the club swimmers in the A meets anyway? Because if the club swimmers have the fastest times that’s not favoritism, they are just faster because they swim 11 months out of the year.
Yes
I’m sorry but I’m finding this very hard to believe. I’ve never heard of a summer swim team saying oh look Larla swam the 50 breast in 43 seconds, but Karla is one of my club swimmers so even though she posted 46 seconds, into the A meet she goes. If this was actually happening, this is something pretty easily taken to the reps to get an explanation. Even when a club doesn’t publish the ladder, the reps have it.
I would definitely go to the reps if this is happening. The coaches work for the team/reps and would most certainly be held accountable for that kind of thing.
Anonymous
07/22/2022 13:37
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Worst swimming experience ever so far. Little Falls penguins
Anonymous
07/22/2022 13:28
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Are you saying that some of the non-club swimmers have posted faster times and he is ignoring those times and just putting the club swimmers in the A meets anyway? Because if the club swimmers have the fastest times that’s not favoritism, they are just faster because they swim 11 months out of the year.
Yes
I’m sorry but I’m finding this very hard to believe. I’ve never heard of a summer swim team saying oh look Larla swam the 50 breast in 43 seconds, but Karla is one of my club swimmers so even though she posted 46 seconds, into the A meet she goes. If this was actually happening, this is something pretty easily taken to the reps to get an explanation. Even when a club doesn’t publish the ladder, the reps have it.
Anonymous
07/22/2022 13:11
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Are you saying that some of the non-club swimmers have posted faster times and he is ignoring those times and just putting the club swimmers in the A meets anyway? Because if the club swimmers have the fastest times that’s not favoritism, they are just faster because they swim 11 months out of the year.
Yes
Anonymous
07/22/2022 13:11
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Are you saying that some of the non-club swimmers have posted faster times and he is ignoring those times and just putting the club swimmers in the A meets anyway? Because if the club swimmers have the fastest times that’s not favoritism, they are just faster because they swim 11 months out of the year.
+1
I am a team rep. Oftentimes, parents do not really understand the ladder or do not pay attention to it. So they think a kid is faster and should swim, when in reality they are not. We will sometimes have a ladder time from the prior year (there are dates attached) but the kid doesn't come to practice or grew and is now unable to recreate that same stroke to the same level. We will not use a last year time when the kid is not performing at the same level as the prior year. This is often the case in the 15-18 group.
Anonymous
07/22/2022 12:48
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Are you saying that some of the non-club swimmers have posted faster times and he is ignoring those times and just putting the club swimmers in the A meets anyway? Because if the club swimmers have the fastest times that’s not favoritism, they are just faster because they swim 11 months out of the year.
+1
Anonymous
07/22/2022 12:22
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Are you saying that some of the non-club swimmers have posted faster times and he is ignoring those times and just putting the club swimmers in the A meets anyway? Because if the club swimmers have the fastest times that’s not favoritism, they are just faster because they swim 11 months out of the year.
Anonymous
07/22/2022 12:18
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
He's also selecting swimmers for A meets though. That's were the favoritism comes in
Anonymous
07/22/2022 12:02
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
That's exactly what it is, and the kids who do it are the obvious favorites. We're not asking to do it because our kids aren't part of that club.
I’m not quite sure how this is favoritism. He is coaching his club swimmers at their club practice, the fact that this club uses your pool for summer practice doesn’t make it favoritism. If this practice was being held at a different pool, would you still consider it favoritism?
Anonymous
07/22/2022 11:49
Subject: Summer Swim Team Coaching- tell me about yours
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huge team, but he's also a club coach so he knows what he's doing. On the other hand, his club kids swim with him at our pool before it opens and the favoritism is obvious.
Could you or your swimmer ask to attend the earlier practice? Our club team swims 11 months out of the year and it just turns out that the club summer practices are at our summer team pool. We pay for these practices. It might appear as favoritism to sum, but some folks forget it was part of the registration for the club team.
This is so many club coaches. And they tend to favor kids that swim club. I have preferred when he we have high school swim team coaches over our club coaches.
You know you have good coaches if they are just as engage with the swimmers at a B meet as they are at an A meet. RARELY will this be the case. You will see the coach only paying attention to the A meet swimmers regardless of meet.