Anonymous
Post 07/16/2022 09:01     Subject: Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Both GT and ND were safety schools back in the day. Has it really come to this??
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2022 08:43     Subject: Re:Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Georgetown is your thing….look at Notre Dame. Better education and your child would actually go away to college.

Unless you work at GU. Poor kid.


But everyone will think DC just didn’t get in to GT. Yes, we known ND has higher scores thresholds. Still doesn’t matter


What? Who picks Georgetown over ND?


If you are specifically interested in the foreign service field, otherwise
ND >> GT
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2022 07:57     Subject: Re:Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Georgetown is your thing….look at Notre Dame. Better education and your child would actually go away to college.

Unless you work at GU. Poor kid.


But everyone will think DC just didn’t get in to GT. Yes, we known ND has higher scores thresholds. Still doesn’t matter


What? Who picks Georgetown over ND?
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2022 07:54     Subject: Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Entitlement attitude is seeping through OP's post. Don't apply if you want to hide your lower scores.


+1 Up until recently, providing all scores was the norm. This isn't something that applies only to OP's kids. If testing pressure is going to ruin their high school, then good for his kids for deciding to go elsewhere.


+2 Honestly, if sitting the exam is too much stress for a student, then Georgetown would also be too much stress. If you don't want to do that level of work, don't. Students have thousands of other options. Kids should prioritize their mental health and find a place that suits them best. It is very smart to do so.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2022 07:36     Subject: Re:Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Eh, I attended Gtown and it was strangely rigid. Obnoxiously so. I'd attended a private university for undergrad previously and they were great about being there for students who needed extra support. I thought all private schools would be that way.

Gtown was really really inflexibile and seemed to go out of there way to make things difficult. There was no flexibility even for the student who missed a few classes when they were violently attacked by street thugs on their way home from class and hospitalized. Nor for the student who ended up in a coma for a month and needed to retake a class. We had a few petitions go around with hundreds of signatures to try to garner some reasonable flexibility for those students who needed it, but the administration was very unreceptive. Zero compassion.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2022 07:20     Subject: Re:Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Georgetown requires students report every score from every SAT, ACT or AP exam that they ever sat for, in an official report.
Their prerogative.
Restrictive REA is truly awful on so many levels.
Their prerogative.
Helps make the decision easy


You realize this is what all colleges, or at least the top ones, used to require, right?


That's what I was thinking...
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2022 07:07     Subject: Re:Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:Far from criticizing Georgetown’s REA, I think we should give credit where it is due. Sad as it is to say in this age of game theory admissions, a highly competitive college that has no ED, gives no substantive admissions advantage to its early applicants over regular decision applicants, and provides a December admissions decision to early applicants so that they can apply ED2 elsewhere is relatively enlightened. As far as I know, this is the only highly competitive private college that 1) has no ED and 2) does not favor its EA applicants (Notre Dame gives an admissions advantage to REA applicants; USC’s new EA will presumably favor early applicants and, in any event, it won’t release decisions until well after ED2 deadlines have passed). Yes, straight RD with no early admissions whatsoever (as at Berkeley and UCLA) would be better for everyone. But Georgetown does the next best thing — and is to be commended for it.


I agree with you that REA is a positive. It gives students the opportunity for an early answer without having to commit so that they can compare FA packages or change their mind or still take a chance on applying to schools with a low likelihood of admission. But, you are wrong about ND. There is no advantage for REA and they report that it is slightly harder. It is essentially the same as Georgetown. In terms of not restricting the student, both are better than ED and even better than SCEA.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2022 23:26     Subject: Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, the school has its requirements, including not using the common app. If that is too much for your kid(s) then it isn't the right school for them.

Even with these requirements, there are thousands of applicants and an admission rate in the single digits (school of foreign service) and lower double digits (the College)


Exactly. Your kids are not disciplined enough OP.


+1

Anonymous
Post 07/15/2022 23:25     Subject: Re:Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:This is not unique to Georgetown. Sounds like your child should be applying to lower rated schools. Not sure what it has to do with Georgetown.


x100000

Exactly this.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2022 22:28     Subject: Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:OP, the school has its requirements, including not using the common app. If that is too much for your kid(s) then it isn't the right school for them.

Even with these requirements, there are thousands of applicants and an admission rate in the single digits (school of foreign service) and lower double digits (the College)


Exactly. Your kids are not disciplined enough OP.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2022 21:57     Subject: Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course it's a great school, in a great location - yes. But it is not QUITE the amazing educational experience that their demanding standards would seem to indicate.
Mine would have loved to apply. But between the restrictive application policy (which is truly awful given the very difficult cycles these kids are facing) and their demands for all test scores - my kids have had it. Both have what it takes to succeed there. But my first and now my second are not willing to ruin what was left of HS to get there. Straight As in AP courses not enough for you? Opting for mental health over College Board nonsense by skipping a few AP exams? Please. My next one feels the same way. These two are great students - never had anything less than an A or A-, fantastic ECs that reflect their commitment to serving others for years, stellar LORs, tons of the R word - RIGOR. Not pointy for Ivies. But they are out - of the G-town rat race. And no - that's not a Georgetown troll talking - it's an honest frustration for their policies.


If they're giving up on the admissions process they don't have what it takes to succeed there. Easier to complain Georgetown is unreasonable than accept getting declined?


Seems that way, doesn't it? My son's HS experience certainly wasn't "ruined" by trying to tailor his life to future college applications, because it wouldn't have occurred to him to do that. He developed many interests in high school, turned out to be great at some of them, and eventually applied to Georgetown as well as several other schools. (And if you think the Georgetown application has too many hoops to jump through, you should see University of Chicago's. )

I really thought it was a reach (maybe because I didn't get in in the '90s ) and tried to manage expectations about being admitted to Georgetown and other places he applied ... but he got in to most of them, and will be going to Georgetown this fall.

My theory is that so many people are like OP and just throw their hands up when they see the demands of anything beyond the Common App. If your kid really wants to go to Georgetown (and I don't think mine did until he visited it this spring) they should just apply. That alone will set them apart, IMO.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2022 21:14     Subject: Re:Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
This is not unique to Georgetown. Sounds like your child should be applying to lower rated schools. Not sure what it has to do with Georgetown.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2022 20:49     Subject: Re:Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If Georgetown is your thing….look at Notre Dame. Better education and your child would actually go away to college.

Unless you work at GU. Poor kid.


But everyone will think DC just didn’t get in to GT. Yes, we known ND has higher scores thresholds. Still doesn’t matter


Oh my. You really base your decisions on what people think regarding where your child was accepted and rejected?!?

Your world view is so messed up. I can't imagine living like this. I've got enough to be going on with...
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2022 20:46     Subject: Re:Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:If Georgetown is your thing….look at Notre Dame. Better education and your child would actually go away to college.

Unless you work at GU. Poor kid.


But everyone will think DC just didn’t get in to GT. Yes, we known ND has higher scores thresholds. Still doesn’t matter
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2022 20:36     Subject: Re:Has anyone else had it with Georgetown?
Anonymous wrote:Nothing to hide at all. All best. One's at a wonderful school with less restrictive policies but better ranked than G-town. The other will undoubtedly find their place too. Lazy? Well I guess when I post snark I will receive it. I realize I am venting so I apologize for any offense. Anyone living through the 2021 and 2022 cycle will understand that it was hard on all students. They will all find their place, and I wish you all the best.


Also survived 21-22 cycle. I don’t think you gave out snark, just vented frustration. It is intense and very frustrating! There are just people here you have to ignire. Glad yours got a good outcome!