Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 18:10     Subject: Re:Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:My wife is a SAHM and we have a lot of money because I make a lot. Our kids are thriving. So it's worth it from that aspect. We love and respect and support each other and generally like each other even after 20 years together.

Even so, if you don't want kids, I see no point in marriage. For either men or women.


I agree with this. Marriage is made for families. Otherwise it's not worth it.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 18:08     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It's certainly a better deal for women than it is for men


I agree with this. I don’t see why most men get married.


This is untrue: men with SAHW perform better in career vs those who are unmarried. They have a free laborer on everything else at home.


Men who don’t marry die younger, marriage is literally a life saver for men. Not the case for women.


It’s a life extender, not saver.


As a married man, that doesn't surprise me. If I was single. I would be having more fun. But that fun includes going out way more, drinking more and sleeping around way more, all of which leads to a shorter life.

I would argue quality over quantity 😃
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 18:04     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's certainly a better deal for women than it is for men


I agree with this. I don’t see why most men get married.


This is untrue: men with SAHW perform better in career vs those who are unmarried. They have a free laborer on everything else at home.


Men who don’t marry die younger, marriage is literally a life saver for men. Not the case for women.


It’s a life extender, not saver.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 18:02     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:30% of married women do not work. They probably think it's worth it



And what additional percentage when you include part-time/underemployed women?
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 18:01     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's certainly a better deal for women than it is for men


I agree with this. I don’t see why most men get married.


This is untrue: men with SAHW perform better in career vs those who are unmarried. They have a free laborer on everything else at home.


They are also happier and healthier than single men are

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19516451/why-married-men-are-happier/

https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health

https://ifstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/IFSMenandMarriageResearchBrief2.pdf



Also selection bias. Happy and healthy guys are more likely to attract a wife, but they'd be happy and healthy anyway if they stayed single.


That's actually a great point that I haven't seen discussed much - how these studies control for being a well adjusted and generally positive person, or if they do control for that at all.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 17:59     Subject: Re:Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
My wife is a SAHM and we have a lot of money because I make a lot. Our kids are thriving. So it's worth it from that aspect. We love and respect and support each other and generally like each other even after 20 years together.

Even so, if you don't want kids, I see no point in marriage. For either men or women.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 17:53     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:If two people plan to stay together for the rest of their lives, marriage is a great deal. Your spouse will have be able to get on your insurance, visit you in the hospital, and get survivor pension benefits. Read the decision in Obergefell v. Hodges while it lasts!


Who has a pension anymore?
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 17:52     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
If two people plan to stay together for the rest of their lives, marriage is a great deal. Your spouse will have be able to get on your insurance, visit you in the hospital, and get survivor pension benefits. Read the decision in Obergefell v. Hodges while it lasts!
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 17:41     Subject: Re:Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:It's certainly not worth it for men.


How so? Please explain.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 17:41     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:It’s probably not worth it for most. If IUI/IVF were covered by insurance and more accepted, I think more women would go that route. I would certainly advise my daughters to have their own careers and own children and not get married. Most of my married friends would be better off without their deadweight husbands.

Or marry another woman.


Lesbian marriages have the highest divorce rates of all couples. Maybe men aren't the actual problem?
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 17:30     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:It’s probably not worth it for most. If IUI/IVF were covered by insurance and more accepted, I think more women would go that route. I would certainly advise my daughters to have their own careers and own children and not get married. Most of my married friends would be better off without their deadweight husbands.

Or marry another woman.


ok --- no do not marry another women unless you are inclined that way -- the sure but it is not a real alternative for most. Who has deadweight husbands? On this board? You could have boring husbands but not deadweight.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 17:26     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's certainly a better deal for women than it is for men


I agree with this. I don’t see why most men get married.


This is untrue: men with SAHW perform better in career vs those who are unmarried. They have a free laborer on everything else at home.


They are also happier and healthier than single men are

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19516451/why-married-men-are-happier/

https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health

https://ifstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/IFSMenandMarriageResearchBrief2.pdf



Also selection bias. Happy and healthy guys are more likely to attract a wife, but they'd be happy and healthy anyway if they stayed single.


If this were selection bias, why don’t we observe the same for women?
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 17:25     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
I think it’s worth it (for both genders) only if there’s deep compatibility, friendship, respect, and shared world views.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 17:22     Subject: Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's certainly a better deal for women than it is for men


I agree with this. I don’t see why most men get married.


This is untrue: men with SAHW perform better in career vs those who are unmarried. They have a free laborer on everything else at home.


Men who don’t marry die younger, marriage is literally a life saver for men. Not the case for women.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2022 17:16     Subject: Re:Is marriage even worth it for women anymore?
It’s absolutely worth it if you find the right guy and plenty of women do. But it’s hell if you pick wrong but keep in mind marriage is a two way street and not all women are the right women.