Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 21:59     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:You can totally lose weight eating processed food as well. We Americans just struggle with the idea that it’s ok to feel a little hunger before you eat your next meal. I don’t think it’s linked to food ingredients. This is all anecdotal but I gain weight when I’m Europe even though I walk much more!


Agreed.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 21:56     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Dh gets very sick eating gluten here in the us. Horrible stomach pain, awful gas…but traveling he can eat European bread with no issue.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 21:41     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
My experience is that I snack a lot less when traveling so I lose weight.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 21:14     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
You can totally lose weight eating processed food as well. We Americans just struggle with the idea that it’s ok to feel a little hunger before you eat your next meal. I don’t think it’s linked to food ingredients. This is all anecdotal but I gain weight when I’m Europe even though I walk much more!
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 21:12     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
I agree I always lose weight in Euterpe. I have noticed this for 25 years. I gain weight in South America.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 21:02     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:I lived in Germany for over a year and came home 5 lbs heavier (on a tall frame so basically the same). I don't think there's a lick of truth to this, no matter how often people say it.


Agree. It isn’t what’s in the food, it is the actually food people are choosing to eat. The US is the birth place of processed food, fast food, convenience foods. They are EVERYWHERE. And those food companies have marketed them hard for decades as a brilliant shortcut because people are soooo busy you don’t possibly have time to cook, and even if you did, you surly have better things to do than cook. People in the US have been brain washed to believe they don’t have time to make their own meals and thinking it is more expensive to cook/prepare your own cook. And now that everyone is used to eating crap, they love it, think it tastes better, and like the minimal effort.

If you live in the US, you don’t have to eat like that. Eating real whole food can be simple and cheap. But people in the US just don’t to.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 21:02     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been a personal trainer for 22 years. I also have a background in nutrition. There is nothing in our foods causing weight gain. People are simply eating too much and moving too little. It’s that’s simple.

Did you have some processed food today?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 20:52     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
I’ve been a personal trainer for 22 years. I also have a background in nutrition. There is nothing in our foods causing weight gain. People are simply eating too much and moving too little. It’s that’s simple.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 20:48     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:-Our flour is highly processed.
-Our pasta is also highly processed, not made of the same durum wheat as Italian pasta.
-Our soil is extremely depleted of nutrients.
-There's hidden sugars in everything



This except I’m not knowledgeable about the soil issue.

I used to think the fervor about non gmo but as stupid but honestly now I think there may be something to it. And I agree we have more added sugars.

I also always lose weight in Europe. And stuff like pizza that makes me feel gross and bloated here doesn’t do the same here.


OP here. The pizza thing is noticeable for me. When I am there, I eat the Italian-style personal pizza, where you get one personal pizza. That’s a huge amount of pizza! I usually leave a slice or two, and can’t finish, but still, it’s a lot. Here, I feel gross and bloated after just one slice, and I rarely eat pizza as a result. I can’t help but wonder if there is something different in the pizza ingredients.


We generally have more cheese on our pizza here. On everything, actually. It may be the lactose.

Not just more cheese but more sugar. The crust is sweet, the sauce is sweet, the toppings are sweet (pineapple…yuck). We just eat too much damn sugar in this country! (And yes, I know lactose is also a sugar).
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 20:47     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
I lost those last stubborn couple of pounds when we spent a week at the ILs house in Florida. Must be the wheat.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 20:45     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have family and work in Europe and have to go to Europe for work and family regularly. Many years ago, I noticed that whenever I went to Europe I lost a few pounds effortlessly every time, even if it felt like I was eating all the time there. And that has happened every single time I’ve gone: I go to Europe, I lose 5-10 lbs effortlessly (depending on length of stay), I come back and gain it back immediately. I also noticed that I felt less bloated and had less aches and pains. So I started tracking things more rigorously. At first I thought maybe it was portion sizes, but I don’t eat huge portions in the US and have a pretty healthy diet here. When I tracked food it became clear, I eat MORE food in Europe and it’s less healthy (more restaurants, etc.). Then I thought it was more walking, but I have a fitness tracker and while I walk slightly more in Europe, I also don’t do my hard workouts when I am there so I think that’s a wash.

I just returned a week ago and after a few days back in the US, I felt bloated and I noticed a lot more aches and pains, even though I’m now eating healthy home cooked food I prepared myself. I lost seven pounds on this last trip but have already regained two. I’ve come to the conclusion there is something I eat here that my body doesn’t react well to. I eat a reasonably healthy diet here (proteins are fish, poultry, and tofu, for instance). I don’t do anything strict like low carb or vegan. I don’t eat sweets often.

How do I figure this out? As I get older, the difference in how I feel is becoming more and more noticeable. I’ve been back a week and I just feel kind of low-grade worse, especially the stiffness. I think it must be something in my diet but how do I figure this out?


The exact same situation happens with me when I visit relatives in the Middle East over the summer. I have no idea what’s driving it but I’m just validating what you have experienced!

+2. Has happened ever since I was a kid. I was always chubby and every time we visited family overseas, I’d lose weight effortlessly.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 20:28     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is full of pseudoscience. Please go back to goop.



What exactly on this thread is "pseudoscience"? You said it, so explain yourself.


There's no evidence that GMOs cause obesity. None.
Americans don't drink more alcohol than other countries.
Our soil is depleted of nutrients? Evidence? Connection to Obesity?
Evidence that processed food causes obesity? Proof?
Pesticides cause inflammation and thus obesity? Proof?

I'll give you that eating lots of sugar probably has som impact. The rest of these reasons are garbage.


https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/soil-depletion-and-nutrition-loss/
https://grist.org/food/gut-punch-monsanto-could-be-destroying-your-microbiome/
https://www.iarc.who.int/news-events/consumption-of-ultra-processed-foods-associated-with-weight-gain-and-obesity-in-adults-a-multi-national-cohort-study/#:~:text=A%20new%20study%20by%20scientists,with%20significantly%20higher%205%2Dyear

None of this is even particularly new information. Where do you get your news that all of this is shocking and reads false? Because you got REALLY BIG MAD about how untrue this is. . . and you are wrong.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 20:07     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
People are asking for proof that something is in the food supply, which is fair. But I have heard of this happening so often between people who split their time between the states and somewhere else, and as far as I have seen nobody has done a study proving that US ingredients aren’t more inflammatory. I think that sometimes testimonial evidence is evidence worth considering.

(I do always gain weight in Europe though but that’s because my primary goal there is to eat pastry and pasta)
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 20:06     Subject: Re:What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is full of pseudoscience. Please go back to goop.



What exactly on this thread is "pseudoscience"? You said it, so explain yourself.


There's no evidence that GMOs cause obesity. None.
Americans don't drink more alcohol than other countries.
Our soil is depleted of nutrients? Evidence? Connection to Obesity?
Evidence that processed food causes obesity? Proof?
Pesticides cause inflammation and thus obesity? Proof?

I'll give you that eating lots of sugar probably has som impact. The rest of these reasons are garbage.


Not my job to educate you. You need to educate yourself if you really believe everything you just wrote. You are either a troll, or living under a rock.


So you have no reputable sources for your claims. Got it


Yet here YOU are making ridiculous, crazy-making statements....which did not include any "reputable sources". Surprised you didn't add to this list that there's no "proof" that smoking is bad for you.

"There's no evidence that GMOs cause obesity. None.
Americans don't drink more alcohol than other countries.
Our soil is depleted of nutrients? Evidence? Connection to Obesity?
Evidence that processed food causes obesity? Proof?
Pesticides cause inflammation and thus obesity? Proof?

I'll give you that eating lots of sugar probably has som impact. The rest of these reasons are garbage."
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2022 20:00     Subject: What in US food supply causes weight gain and inflammation?
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I meant to say, thanks to every who chimes in with similar experiences. It’s crazy-making, especially after I logged food and did the exercise tracker!

Really appreciate all the thoughts on reasons too.


I’m guessing the tracker isn’t really taking into account ingredients. A slice of NY pizza has many multiples the calories of a slice of Italian pizza.