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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. Eat inside or talk to the manager on duty.

Wrong. Dogs are allowed on patios.

Didn’t say they weren’t. The opening question was - “is there a health code rule that dogs can’t be on patios.” The context clues were then the comments to eat inside or complain to the manager.

You should have used your context clues not to tell someone to “talk to the manager in duty” when dogs are somewhere they are allowed.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why people bring their dogs everywhere

They're emotionally stunted adults who need public attention wherever they go.

They like their dogs, enjoy spending time with them and getting them fresh air and — bonus— it annoys whiny anti dog people.

I occasionally have taken my dog to a dog friendly patio if I am already out with her or far from home - you can't leave the dog in the car, tying the dog outside also isn't the best option, and it's not always easy to bring her back home and head back out again.

I specifically bring her places that are explicitly dog friendly, and have roomy patios or outdoor spaces - for example, a local brewery has a lower patio in the parking lot with picnic tables, and that part of the patio is dog friendly vs. the raised patio that is not. I am not a fan of dogs on crowded patio where the dog is underfoot.

I mainly like to have the option when travelling with the dog - it's nice to get something non fast food once in a while, and again can't leave the dog in the car (people are way too quick to call the cops on dogs in cars even on very mild days now), and you can't leave the dog alone in a hotel. It's not like I am taking my dog on every vacation, but she is coming with us on our upcoming road trip to the midwest to visit family, and I will be looking up some dog friendly patios along our route.

The only establishments where I take my dog inside are pet stores. He’s a large dog, so even though he’s very docile, I keep him on a short leash around others. I understand that people may be allergic or scared or grossed out or just not in the mood, so I never let him get close to other people unless they express an interest in my dog. I don’t let him approach other dogs either, unless their owners express an interest in the dogs meeting, and even then, I verbally confirm that it’s okay for the dogs to meet before we approach.

I don’t think dogs belong in restaurants or grocery stores if they aren’t service dogs. However, when the weather is nice, I will occasionally bring my dog to places that have outdoor seating, if I know there’s room for him. He’s calm and doesn’t bark. I bring a mat for him to lay on, and he stays there while we’re eating. We adopted him during the pandemic and I’m a SAHM, so he’s not used to being home alone and it’s stressful for him. Generally, restaurants don’t own the sidewalks around their establishments, and dogs are allowed on sidewalks. If my dog wasn’t calm or quiet, I wouldn’t bring him.

Pretty gross and totally DC that many people here equate dog rights with kid rights. Leave your damn dogs at home.

The coffee shop / bakery next to our house allows dogs inside because it's super airy with those garage door things. But I always tie up our pup outside when I go inside because I personally think it's obnoxious and gross to bring a dog into a restaurant. And ours is little, while people take in their big huge hairy dogs. Classless, to me.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why people bring their dogs everywhere

Because they don't have children.

A dog in a patio ruined our dinner last night. The owners let her out on a long leash and she kept coming right next to my chair. So gross. I hate entitled dog owners.

I also think kids who aren’t behaving well need to be taken away from the table and other diners.

Anonymous wrote:There should definitely be restaurants where kids arent allowed indoors. I feel kids and dogs should remain in the patio.

Agreed 100%. Sometimes when I'm out with my dog, she can't get any peace because germy children keep trying to meet her.

Anonymous wrote:There should definitely be restaurants where kids arent allowed indoors. I feel kids and dogs should remain in the patio.

I agree with the spirit of this comment in that I think it depends on the restaurant. I’m not going to bring my young toddler to every restaurant patio out there because I recognize that some environments are for adults enjoying themselves without potentially whining children. Similarly, I would expect a pet owner to consider the environment and whether it’s conducive to the presence of their animal. Should my child be allowed everywhere because he’s also a person? Sure, but knowing where is more appropriate - for child or pet - is part of being a considerate person in how you move through the world.

I don't bring my dog, he pulls like crazy and would fly down the street with the table leg attached to his leash.

But other people's kids and dogs are usually fine!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why people bring their dogs everywhere

They're emotionally stunted adults who need public attention wherever they go.

I am not a dog person, but when I take our dog out the only public place I stop at is coffee shop or restaurant that allows dogs on patio. I prefer places that are empty because I don’t want to talk to everyone about my dog. She just sits there. It is convenience thing. I take her out for a couple hours on Saturday and Sunday morning so my wife can get some rest. She has a high stress job, I only work a couple hours a day. It is kind of the least I can do for her.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't particular care if dogs come up to me, but my child has a severe allergic reaction to dogs, even the hypoallergenic ones. We try to avoid them, but sometimes the owners let the dogs roam off-leash or a little too freely and before we could even react, the dog has already come up to my child to sniff/lick him. Then we'd have to do benadryl or at worse an epi-pen.

Our child loves dog but for dog owners out there, please don't assume that every kid can have a dog approach him/her.

+1 DC is allergic

+1 I'm an adult and severely allergic to dogs. I've never seen a dog owner consider that. Most seem to assume everyone loves their pet as much as they do and wants to be close to them

No one should let their dogs approach anyone without permission.

But seriously, are you that allergic that you would have a reaction from someone sitting outside with a dog under their table? Or walking by you?

I have a service dog for balance because I'm an amputee. I LOVE DOGS. And even I'm getting tired of all the misbehaving pets with clueless powers and fake service dogs.

BUT as someone who grew up in Europe, I call tell you there is a great solution! Americans need to more heavily regulate dog ownership and dog training! Lots of places have pet dogs in and out of groceries, restaurants, public transport, etc and they are well behaved and as unobtrusive as a well-trained service dog in the US. People should just train their dogs. Likely will never happen here though and it's sad.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't particular care if dogs come up to me, but my child has a severe allergic reaction to dogs, even the hypoallergenic ones. We try to avoid them, but sometimes the owners let the dogs roam off-leash or a little too freely and before we could even react, the dog has already come up to my child to sniff/lick him. Then we'd have to do benadryl or at worse an epi-pen.

Our child loves dog but for dog owners out there, please don't assume that every kid can have a dog approach him/her.

+1 DC is allergic

+1 I'm an adult and severely allergic to dogs. I've never seen a dog owner consider that. Most seem to assume everyone loves their pet as much as they do and wants to be close to them