Anonymous wrote:Am I reading this wrong that the guy prayed on his own time and didn't lead anything?
I am a committed atheist but I don't see anything wrong with a private prayer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes it is. Read the case.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.
It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.
This was such the right decision.
Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.
That is just not true at all.
Read the case and the oral arguments and statements from the school and the parents. There was zero coercion.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes it is. Read the case.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.
It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.
This was such the right decision.
Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.
That is just not true at all.
Read the case and the oral arguments and statements from the school and the parents. There was zero coercion.
If you think that persons in positions of authority over children - like coaches and teachers - can ask children to join in prayer to Jesus Christ without having Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist, or agnostic children feeling coerced then you clearly have no understanding of children and the power of teachers and coaches over them. Would you ever say that a student could avoid sexual advances by a coach because there was no "coercion"? Simply being in a position of authority over children implies a level of coercive power.
Anonymous wrote:For Catholics, they have short historical memories. This is part of the problem with having little geographical diversity on the Court (heavy on mid-Atlantic Catholics). I grew up in the South and West, where there are a lot of Christians (including Evangelicals and Mormons) who think that Catholics are Papist idolators going straight to hell, and they were praying for our conversion. Catholics were some of the early proponents of separation of church and state in the U.S., because they were a minority and disfavored religion for so long.
Justice Brennan, a devout Catholic, realized that separate of church and state is necessary for people to be able to practice freely. Combining church and state is good for neither the church nor the state. (As the Inquisition and the Renaissance teach us - again, short historical memories.)
I feel bad for the Jewish and Muslim kids in place like the South and Midwest, who are going to have to hold hands and mouth the Our Father if they want any playing time.
Also, funny how when it comes to my womb, it's all about local governmental control, but when it comes to asking a football coach not to organize a prayer circle with his teenage players, suddenly the local authorities don't know what they are doing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes it is. Read the case.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.
It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.
This was such the right decision.
Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.
That is just not true at all.
Read the case and the oral arguments and statements from the school and the parents. There was zero coercion.
Anonymous wrote:Yes it is. Read the case.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.
It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.
This was such the right decision.
Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.
That is just not true at all.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.
It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.
This was such the right decision.
I do not believe in God, I do not want my children being led in prayer in their public school and I consider this ruling a violation of my and my children's religious freedom. I might be more appalled by this than the abortion ruling for which I disagreed, but could follow the constitutional logic. This literally is pushing me to vote democratic when I've been frustrated with Biden and the far left.
No child was forced to join in prayer. The coach had the right to exercise his religion freely.
Do you truly not understand human social power dynamics or are you just arguing? Being a leader comes with responsibility. Using your power to manipulate minors or subordinates is not moral.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.
It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.
This was such the right decision.
Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.
The optics of a coach in a public school leading a prayer group of SOME students, even with no coercion, has a significant chilling effect on the rest.
Well thank god the Supreme Court rules what he was doing is constitutional. You people expect us to abide by the rulings of the liberal courts for YEARS, now turnabout is FairPlay.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Separation of church and state was to keep government out of the church not the other way around... EVEN THOUGH IT SHOULD BE EQUAL.
Fk this fragile-ass white christian snowflakes.
Hey now, no need to bring race into this. The black church has been a key driving force to keep Cannabis illegal as well as gay marriage. It’s fundamentalism in all forms that we need to resist.
Anonymous wrote:Am I reading this wrong that the guy prayed on his own time and didn't lead anything?
I am a committed atheist but I don't see anything wrong with a private prayer.
Yes it is. Read the case.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.
It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.
This was such the right decision.
Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.
That is just not true at all.
Anonymous wrote:Trump turned the US into a theocracy of Roman Catholics who indulged and hid their pedophile priests without a second thought. Now they get to own women's wombs because, with a declining population, it's hard for those God-fearing priests to find new victims.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MMoH started us on this path towards intolerance towards religious expression in the 60’s. I am thankful God is taking back the places people were restricted from their free exercise of religion. In the oral argument, the lawyer for the district said coercion of students had nothing to do with this case. Many chose to join his sessions.
It speaks wonders to know so many from the stands rushed the field to join the coach in prayer.
This was such the right decision.
Many felt like they had to join his sessions because then they wouldn’t get playing time over those who did if they didn’t.
The optics of a coach in a public school leading a prayer group of SOME students, even with no coercion, has a significant chilling effect on the rest.