Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 15:36     Subject: Re:Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:9 people also died doing water sports over the holiday weekend (and that's just the major headline news) - respectively 3 parasailing in FL, 5 went over a waterfall in VA, 1 motorboating somewhere.

I consider all risky propositions stupid.



I heard about the 2 who were lost going over a dam in Virginia (out of a group of 12) - are you referring to them or others?


Oh you're right - the 10 others were recovered/made it to shore after going over this.




I don’t get it. They were boating/tubing in the reservoir created by the dam, but the water level was higher then normal so was essentially flooding over?

Wouldn’t there be warning about that?


It's a low head dam. That's a known danger. Don't play around dams seems like common sense.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 15:32     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:In Yellowstone, I think you're lulled into a false sense of safety. Most of the bison stand around like cows. They're not kept separate from people. And if the lady was on the boardwalk, it's because you have to be careful around the hot springs, which are also very dangerous.


If they know these loose bison and hot springs are dangerous, shouldn’t they DO something about them!?
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 15:32     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Someone, not some. 🤪
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 15:32     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:I dunno, I feel bad for her. Lots of people do stupid things and some just luck out and don’t die.


Some approach a bison during 2020 and get tossed right out of their blue jeans, causing much hilarity among the Indigenous people upon whose land she was, uninvited.

I have done lots of stupid things, but treating wild animals as if they're harmless/pets/there for my amusement has never been one of them.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 15:25     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:#teamBison Yeah as a human you should have the basic instinct to know that an animal that large is terrifying.[b] I have video of Bison chasing people at Jackson Hole.[i]




This made me lol. I hope it's your ex and his mother in the video.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 15:17     Subject: Re:Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:9 people also died doing water sports over the holiday weekend (and that's just the major headline news) - respectively 3 parasailing in FL, 5 went over a waterfall in VA, 1 motorboating somewhere.

I consider all risky propositions stupid.



I heard about the 2 who were lost going over a dam in Virginia (out of a group of 12) - are you referring to them or others?


Oh you're right - the 10 others were recovered/made it to shore after going over this.




I don’t get it. They were boating/tubing in the reservoir created by the dam, but the water level was higher then normal so was essentially flooding over?

Wouldn’t there be warning about that?


There were all kinds of warnings that the James River was unsafe that day.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 15:13     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work closely with the NPS, this is very, very common. LOTS of people die each year in National Parks due to their own negligence. I think a lot of people aren't savvy about wildlife or nature and it's their first time in a rural, natural place. City people thinking it's an amusement park. NPS has tons and tons of signs everywhere about bison, not walking into hot springs, not walking off the cliff at the Grand Canyon, not getting lost in the woods where there's not cell reception, on and on.


There are a couple of great books about how people die in some of the larger parks. In the Grand Canyon there are very few death from animals even though they have poisonous snakes etc. Helicopter rides through are notoriously unsafe. Lots of people don't know how their bodies work and not just related to heat. People go sit out on ledges over cliffs and don't realize it is common to experience vertigo or dizziness when you stand up and are at a height, then they tumble down...


Lighting strikes are a big killer of folks in Nat'l Parks.


Also people don't understand how their bodies work wrt water. When folks on white water rafting trips get dumped in to the water, they often go into shock because of the cold and they dont react as expected. People can also do a poor job of hydration. If you don't add sugar or something to your water you can cause yourself serious illness.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 14:46     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/01/yellowstone-bison-gores-woman/

It sounds like she died because she walked up to a bison, probably for a photo, and it gored her. I just don't understand how people can be so stupid. It's just incredible. She threw her life away for nothing.

Where does it say she died?
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 14:44     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
I saw on video a half dozen group of tourists sashay by a couple of bison with 5-10 feet. This was probably during the lockdown and all I could do was wtf. They are not pets.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 14:40     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work closely with the NPS, this is very, very common. LOTS of people die each year in National Parks due to their own negligence. I think a lot of people aren't savvy about wildlife or nature and it's their first time in a rural, natural place. City people thinking it's an amusement park. NPS has tons and tons of signs everywhere about bison, not walking into hot springs, not walking off the cliff at the Grand Canyon, not getting lost in the woods where there's not cell reception, on and on.


There are a couple of great books about how people die in some of the larger parks. In the Grand Canyon there are very few death from animals even though they have poisonous snakes etc. Helicopter rides through are notoriously unsafe. Lots of people don't know how their bodies work and not just related to heat. People go sit out on ledges over cliffs and don't realize it is common to experience vertigo or dizziness when you stand up and are at a height, then they tumble down...


Lighting strikes are a big killer of folks in Nat'l Parks.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 14:34     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:The thing that makes me have a teeny bit of sympathy for her is that she stayed on the boardwalk. It was the bison who came to her, essentially. She still should've known better, but I can imagine getting lulled into thinking you're safe if you stay on the designated path.


ugh if she was on the boardwalk I wonder if she was gored and then tossed into one of the thermal springs in that area.

I've been to that area and have seen the bison in the grassy area adjacent to the boardwalk area, but there was a thermal area spring and surrounding crust area between the boardwalk and the grassy area. So it felt somewhat safe. Either way, doesn't sound like a nice way to go out.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 13:47     Subject: Re:Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:9 people also died doing water sports over the holiday weekend (and that's just the major headline news) - respectively 3 parasailing in FL, 5 went over a waterfall in VA, 1 motorboating somewhere.

I consider all risky propositions stupid.



I heard about the 2 who were lost going over a dam in Virginia (out of a group of 12) - are you referring to them or others?


Oh you're right - the 10 others were recovered/made it to shore after going over this.




I don’t get it. They were boating/tubing in the reservoir created by the dam, but the water level was higher then normal so was essentially flooding over?

Wouldn’t there be warning about that?
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 13:36     Subject: Re:Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:When I was in middle school we lived on Ft Leavenworth (not the prison, obviously). There were bison on post in a huge fenced in area. We used to jump the fence and mess with the Bison all the time. I am so lucky. As a kid, I had no idea they were dangerous. I grew up around animals on my grandparents' (both sides) farms. I used to think Bison were like big cows. Maybe she didn't know they were dangerous?


I think they are a lot like big cows, mostly placid and harmless. But they're not really domesticated like cows, and the ones at Yellowstone that don't live on farms or ranches are not domesticated at all. They're wild animals.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 13:35     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
In Yellowstone, I think you're lulled into a false sense of safety. Most of the bison stand around like cows. They're not kept separate from people. And if the lady was on the boardwalk, it's because you have to be careful around the hot springs, which are also very dangerous.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2022 13:27     Subject: Young woman gored by Bison - why are people so stupid?
Anonymous wrote:I work closely with the NPS, this is very, very common. LOTS of people die each year in National Parks due to their own negligence. I think a lot of people aren't savvy about wildlife or nature and it's their first time in a rural, natural place. City people thinking it's an amusement park. NPS has tons and tons of signs everywhere about bison, not walking into hot springs, not walking off the cliff at the Grand Canyon, not getting lost in the woods where there's not cell reception, on and on.


There are a couple of great books about how people die in some of the larger parks. In the Grand Canyon there are very few death from animals even though they have poisonous snakes etc. Helicopter rides through are notoriously unsafe. Lots of people don't know how their bodies work and not just related to heat. People go sit out on ledges over cliffs and don't realize it is common to experience vertigo or dizziness when you stand up and are at a height, then they tumble down...