Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true at once - we need gun reform AND we need to better defend the most vulnerable among us. The fact that the elites of this world walk around with trained, armed guards should tell you that it is an effective solution. When those same people tell you gun control is the ONLY solution, you should be very skeptical.

Oh, okay, let me get on that right now. A body guard for every kid? Sure thing, psycho lady.

I hope the day never comes where your child is being hunted by a madman, but if it does you better hope there is someone there with the ability to stop it.

Odds are they’ll run away

Anonymous wrote:Maybe this?

https://www.ffxnow.com/2022/05/25/after-texas-mass-shooting-fairfax-county-school-board-member-proposes-new-security-measure/

They don't help if you leave the side and back doors unlocked.

The best plans require people to adhere to them in order to work. If they had simply kept doors locked and not let anyone in who doesn't have a badge, no one would need a "security vestibule." Reduce the amount of guns in our population. Keep school doors locked. Both of those would go a long way to helping.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true at once - we need gun reform AND we need to better defend the most vulnerable among us. The fact that the elites of this world walk around with trained, armed guards should tell you that it is an effective solution. When those same people tell you gun control is the ONLY solution, you should be very skeptical.

Oh, okay, let me get on that right now. A body guard for every kid? Sure thing, psycho lady.

I hope the day never comes where your child is being hunted by a madman, but if it does you better hope there is someone there with the ability to stop it.

Yes, because the officers at the TX school were so effective.

And the officers standing outside with their big bad guns were so effect, right? Too scared to enter for 40 minutes.

Nope, not against someone with a high powered gun. That's why we need to get rid of average citizens being able to buy these type of guns. Police and military should be the only ones allowed to have them.

Maybe this?

https://www.ffxnow.com/2022/05/25/after-texas-mass-shooting-fairfax-county-school-board-member-proposes-new-security-measure/

Anonymous wrote:SROs are useless in situations like this OP, as witnessed by the fact that the SRO in Uvalde did absolutely nothing except make the situation worse. You know what would be helpful? Background checks, required training and licensing, and bans on assault rifles and body armor. Your buddies at Fox don't want you think that though, so you're in denial.

Or a secured building would have helped.

Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true at once - we need gun reform AND we need to better defend the most vulnerable among us. The fact that the elites of this world walk around with trained, armed guards should tell you that it is an effective solution. When those same people tell you gun control is the ONLY solution, you should be very skeptical.

Oh, okay, let me get on that right now. A body guard for every kid? Sure thing, psycho lady.

SROs are useless in situations like this OP, as witnessed by the fact that the SRO in Uvalde did absolutely nothing except make the situation worse. You know what would be helpful? Background checks, required training and licensing, and bans on assault rifles and body armor. Your buddies at Fox don't want you think that though, so you're in denial.

Two things can be true at once - we need gun reform AND we need to better defend the most vulnerable among us. The fact that the elites of this world walk around with trained, armed guards should tell you that it is an effective solution. When those same people tell you gun control is the ONLY solution, you should be very skeptical.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school officer in Uvalde could not stop the armed shooter from entering the school and slaughtering a classroom of children. SROs are not the answer here.

+1 (this has also been true at other schools)

+2. The Good Guy With A Gun Who Saves The Day is a Right Wing myth.

Actually, a good guy with a gun IS what stopped this from being way worse.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/border-patrol-agents-who-killed-texas-school-shooter-were-from-agencys-elite-team-11653508857

Just stop.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, three armed people tried to stop the shooter in Uvalde but they couldn't compete with assault rifles and body armor. Same in Buffalo -- the security officer couldn't stop the shooter. Good guys with a gun are not the answer. Background checks are the first step in the answer. Regulate gun ownership at least equal to a driver's license (tests) and car ownership (insurance).

I have a feeling in the coming days the narrative of those first three "trying" to stop the shooter is going to fall apart. It's going to end up like Parkland.

Also the Uvalde shooter didn't have body armor on. Just a vest. Police see those things and immediately assume it's body armor, when it usually isn't. Buffalo was the exception.

Anonymous wrote:School Board member Omeish wants to remove SROs like Alexandria public schools did.

As she should. I don't agree with her on much of anything but this I agree on.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school officer in Uvalde could not stop the armed shooter from entering the school and slaughtering a classroom of children. SROs are not the answer here.

+1 (this has also been true at other schools)

+2. The Good Guy With A Gun Who Saves The Day is a Right Wing myth.

+100 NO SROs!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school officer in Uvalde could not stop the armed shooter from entering the school and slaughtering a classroom of children. SROs are not the answer here.

+1 (this has also been true at other schools)

+2. The Good Guy With A Gun Who Saves The Day is a Right Wing myth.

Actually, a good guy with a gun IS what stopped this from being way worse.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/border-patrol-agents-who-killed-texas-school-shooter-were-from-agencys-elite-team-11653508857

The "Good Guy With A Gun" myth is not about (presumably) well-trained law enforcement officers being able to intervene in a situation, it's used as an argument for why average citizens should be able to carry, and/or why we should have armed schoolteachers/SROs, etc... so that THEY can intervene in a situation before law enforcement is able to respond (since unlike Michelle Yeoh they can't be everywhere all at once). The fact that a member of an Border Patrol tactical team eventually killed him (after he had barricaded himself in a room and killed everyone inside) does not, actually, support the myth.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The school officer in Uvalde could not stop the armed shooter from entering the school and slaughtering a classroom of children. SROs are not the answer here.

+1 (this has also been true at other schools)

+2. The Good Guy With A Gun Who Saves The Day is a Right Wing myth.

Actually, a good guy with a gun IS what stopped this from being way worse.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/border-patrol-agents-who-killed-texas-school-shooter-were-from-agencys-elite-team-11653508857