Anonymous
05/25/2022 16:43
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
There are a lot of SN private options but they only cover 60-70% of the kids. Your kiddo clearly falls into the 30%. Unfortunately if you cannot move you need to work with your public school. If your child cannot effectively communicate their needs, if they need help, or are in a dangerous situation you should be able to lobby for a full-time aid that stays with your child 100% of the time. If you cannot afford one that will be a battle with the school. You may want to lawyer up, not just a consultant.
You could also try some of the parochial schools in the area. I believe Flint also does well with IEP's.
You could also try some of the parochial schools in the area. I believe Flint also does well with IEP's.
Anonymous
05/25/2022 15:58
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of those listed had the higher levels of math and science that my local HS had for my gifted child. Commonwealth was close, but even then it would be a supervised online college class (which is what my friend’s child ended up doing).Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.
For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.
Oh yes, I am PP, and I agree that publics are better for an advanced kid with autism. Kids like that need to be mainstreamed. We're currently considering moving to MoCo for that reason.
MoCo has very little in terms of gifted for kids. I wouldn't move here for that. Look at the number of available slots and its very few given the need in MoCo.
Mainstreaming a kid with autism into advanced classes is what I’m talking about. “Gifted” education is going away everywhere. The main point is that the place for a bright child with autism is public school with a strong IEP. OP seems to have formed an opinion about publics (and “those” kids she doesn’t want her child to be around.) Her loss.
It depends on the child and school. We had a terrible experience in elementary school and the principal was terrible. If we had a better, affordable option, anything had to be better than that. We heavily supplemented with private therapies and tutoring.
It does depend, but you also have federal law on your side, and experts you can hire. I was amazed at what I could unlock at a school that otherwise seemed like they were fine letting my child ruin his education (and that of the other kids in his classroom), once I brought in some reinforcements for myself.
Anonymous
05/25/2022 15:56
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of those listed had the higher levels of math and science that my local HS had for my gifted child. Commonwealth was close, but even then it would be a supervised online college class (which is what my friend’s child ended up doing).Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.
For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.
Oh yes, I am PP, and I agree that publics are better for an advanced kid with autism. Kids like that need to be mainstreamed. We're currently considering moving to MoCo for that reason.
MoCo has very little in terms of gifted for kids. I wouldn't move here for that. Look at the number of available slots and its very few given the need in MoCo.
Mainstreaming a kid with autism into advanced classes is what I’m talking about. “Gifted” education is going away everywhere. The main point is that the place for a bright child with autism is public school with a strong IEP. OP seems to have formed an opinion about publics (and “those” kids she doesn’t want her child to be around.) Her loss.
The OP said she was on ACPS which I think is very poor for 2E students.
Unless her child is gifted-gifted (unlikely, statistically) what 2E elementary students need is basically just really good mainstreaming. My impression is that elementary school is where you are more likely to accomplish this. Harder in middle and high school.
Anonymous
05/25/2022 01:01
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why not public school? Does she need a therapeutic setting all day? What’s your school district? Have you explored what they have to offer?
np Most public schools are not capable for helping kids with special needs.
That seems like quite the generalization.
I've had personal experiences and know of lots of others who have too. Sure it isn't everyone but, my experience counts too. Public school teachers aren't taught the up to date technology on teaching dyslexic or dyscalculia never mind Autism.
You’d be surprised at the number of teachers at non-public SN schools who are largely unqualified to teach ANY student, especially students with SN.
Anonymous
05/24/2022 20:06
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of those listed had the higher levels of math and science that my local HS had for my gifted child. Commonwealth was close, but even then it would be a supervised online college class (which is what my friend’s child ended up doing).Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.
For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.
Oh yes, I am PP, and I agree that publics are better for an advanced kid with autism. Kids like that need to be mainstreamed. We're currently considering moving to MoCo for that reason.
MoCo has very little in terms of gifted for kids. I wouldn't move here for that. Look at the number of available slots and its very few given the need in MoCo.
Mainstreaming a kid with autism into advanced classes is what I’m talking about. “Gifted” education is going away everywhere. The main point is that the place for a bright child with autism is public school with a strong IEP. OP seems to have formed an opinion about publics (and “those” kids she doesn’t want her child to be around.) Her loss.
It depends on the child and school. We had a terrible experience in elementary school and the principal was terrible. If we had a better, affordable option, anything had to be better than that. We heavily supplemented with private therapies and tutoring.
Anonymous
05/24/2022 18:19
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of those listed had the higher levels of math and science that my local HS had for my gifted child. Commonwealth was close, but even then it would be a supervised online college class (which is what my friend’s child ended up doing).Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.
For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.
Oh yes, I am PP, and I agree that publics are better for an advanced kid with autism. Kids like that need to be mainstreamed. We're currently considering moving to MoCo for that reason.
MoCo has very little in terms of gifted for kids. I wouldn't move here for that. Look at the number of available slots and its very few given the need in MoCo.
Mainstreaming a kid with autism into advanced classes is what I’m talking about. “Gifted” education is going away everywhere. The main point is that the place for a bright child with autism is public school with a strong IEP. OP seems to have formed an opinion about publics (and “those” kids she doesn’t want her child to be around.) Her loss.
The OP said she was on ACPS which I think is very poor for 2E students.
Anonymous
05/24/2022 18:17
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Diener? There are plenty of bright kids there with emotional and behavioral issues.
OP, can you talk to an educational consultant? They may be able to help you find options, both public and private.
I seriously doubt Diener accepts children with FBAs that involve any serious amount of behavioral disruption.
Correct. Also, at least as of 2-3 years ago, Diener was not great for a child who was arguably gifted as well as autistic and have language based learning disabilities.
Anonymous
05/24/2022 16:00
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of those listed had the higher levels of math and science that my local HS had for my gifted child. Commonwealth was close, but even then it would be a supervised online college class (which is what my friend’s child ended up doing).Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.
For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.
Oh yes, I am PP, and I agree that publics are better for an advanced kid with autism. Kids like that need to be mainstreamed. We're currently considering moving to MoCo for that reason.
MoCo has very little in terms of gifted for kids. I wouldn't move here for that. Look at the number of available slots and its very few given the need in MoCo.
Mainstreaming a kid with autism into advanced classes is what I’m talking about. “Gifted” education is going away everywhere. The main point is that the place for a bright child with autism is public school with a strong IEP. OP seems to have formed an opinion about publics (and “those” kids she doesn’t want her child to be around.) Her loss.
Anonymous
05/24/2022 15:57
Subject: Re:Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:OP, I agree with you 100%. My child who is average IQ but has ASD with expressive language issues but really zero behavioral problems and is truly a sweet, kind child who wants to do well is going to a very small private school right now but will eventually have to go to public school because most small privates for middle and high school won't accept any child with an ASD diagnosis.
So just don’t disclose the diagnosis? What would you gain by disclosing if your child doesn’t have any behavioral challenges?
My child was diagnosed with ASD (Asperger’s) as a preschooler. Later, ADHD was added. Now, as a teenager, the ADHD diagnosis fits but the ASD is less apparent. We’ve kept an IEP in public school but he’s in Gen Ed classes with little to no SpEd support.
If your child doesn’t need a lot of support, why does the school need to know?
Anonymous
05/24/2022 15:46
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Hire an education lawyer or advocate and fight for your rights to needed services on the IEP. www.wrightslaw.com
Anonymous
05/24/2022 14:37
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:None of those listed had the higher levels of math and science that my local HS had for my gifted child. Commonwealth was close, but even then it would be a supervised online college class (which is what my friend’s child ended up doing).Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:there is not an abundance of options if your child is gifted. Please share their names if I am wrong.Anonymous wrote:We actually need more schools for children with behavioral issues and more intensive special needs, but who will receive a diploma. There is an abundance of options if your child is gifted or on grade level. And for behavior, I’m talking issues like being disruptive not aggressive. There is only one private option I am aware of and it’s not great. No options really for kids with low average iqs, learning issues, and behaviors and many, many, many kids in that boat.
For a grade-level or advanced kid with autism and no behavioral issues? Maybe not an "abundance" of options, but MANY more options than kids with behavioral issues. Almost all of the SN privates discussed on here (Siena, Diener, Auburn, McClean, Lab, Commonwealth) will not take a kid with behavioral issues. And summer camps? Forget about it. For understandable reasons, they treat behavioral issues as the third rail.
Oh yes, I am PP, and I agree that publics are better for an advanced kid with autism. Kids like that need to be mainstreamed. We're currently considering moving to MoCo for that reason.
MoCo has very little in terms of gifted for kids. I wouldn't move here for that. Look at the number of available slots and its very few given the need in MoCo.
Anonymous
05/24/2022 14:36
Subject: Re:Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:OP, I agree with you 100%. My child who is average IQ but has ASD with expressive language issues but really zero behavioral problems and is truly a sweet, kind child who wants to do well is going to a very small private school right now but will eventually have to go to public school because most small privates for middle and high school won't accept any child with an ASD diagnosis.
This isn't necessarily true for MS and HS if your chid is doing well. Some schools are more flexible than others. We looked at MS and found several schools who said if they had space they'd take our child but our child wasn't really interested in them.
Anonymous
05/24/2022 14:35
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
Anonymous wrote:OP here & yes, we are beginning to work with a consultant. I will disagree with everyone that says there are lots of options. Maybe there are on surface but if you have an early elementary child with language disorders, there are none other than in MD. Public school is great on surface but not when your child gets put in a specialized program lumped together with kids who are physically aggressive and your child can’t communicate for help. Out of the suggested schools here, once you tell them lack of verbal communication, you can’t even apply, so no, I don’t think there are a lot of options.
We were overseas and there actually were much better options for private bc they seemed less into labels and evaluations and reports and more into working with the individual child.
There are no good options for kids with language disorders in this area. There is Maddox but even so they aren't specific to language disorders, especially if your child doesn't have behavioral or other issues.
Your best bet may be a small regular private if your child can do the academics but just needs a bit more support and private therapies for a few years.
Anonymous
05/24/2022 14:32
Subject: Re:Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
OP, I agree with you 100%. My child who is average IQ but has ASD with expressive language issues but really zero behavioral problems and is truly a sweet, kind child who wants to do well is going to a very small private school right now but will eventually have to go to public school because most small privates for middle and high school won't accept any child with an ASD diagnosis.
Anonymous
05/24/2022 14:15
Subject: Frustrated with lack of Special Needs schools in this area
OP here & yes, we are beginning to work with a consultant. I will disagree with everyone that says there are lots of options. Maybe there are on surface but if you have an early elementary child with language disorders, there are none other than in MD. Public school is great on surface but not when your child gets put in a specialized program lumped together with kids who are physically aggressive and your child can’t communicate for help. Out of the suggested schools here, once you tell them lack of verbal communication, you can’t even apply, so no, I don’t think there are a lot of options.
We were overseas and there actually were much better options for private bc they seemed less into labels and evaluations and reports and more into working with the individual child.
We were overseas and there actually were much better options for private bc they seemed less into labels and evaluations and reports and more into working with the individual child.