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Post 05/04/2022 14:31     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
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Anonymous wrote:No, I wouldn't go out to brunch with my unvaccinated cousins especially if my elderly mother will be joining us. I'm at a stage in life that I don't bend backwards to accommodate selfish people with no common sense.


I'm fully vaxxed/boosted... but don't you think there are other people in that restaurant that aren't vaccinated besides your cousins? Eating out has some inherent risk if you are Covid cautious, so you just have to decide if you are ok with it. If you are ok with eating out, it doesn't make much sense to make sure your cousins are vaccinated.


Vaccinated get Covid. They also spread it.


PP here. I don't disagree with you, we all know that now. I only mentioned that I was vaxxed/boosted for context for OP. Basically, my point is, if OP has drawn her line at not being around unvaccinated people, fine. BUT there's no way everyone in that restaurant is vaccinated, so why does it matter if the cousins are? It's just illogical.


This illogic drives me insane: “I refuse to be around my unvaccinated family and friends, whom I love (presumably), but I’m fine being around strangers, some of whom are surely unvaccinated.”

If you are going to restaurants, you are near unvaccinated people, so why not let some of those unvaccinated people be people you care about?


I have been through this with an unvaccinated family member. I still really really wish they would get vaccinated and feel frustrated the rest of our family felt like I was being the difficult one when I asked them to test before family events during the surge and before my older child could get vaccinated. But now, my kids go to school and they are exposed constantly. Many cautious people have gotten COVID. I don’t force my kids to wear masks (one in particular really struggles with masks). So to be consistent I no longer treat my unvaccinated family member differently than anyone else, aside from really wishing they would get the shot for their own safety.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 14:11     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
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Anonymous wrote:All these “you can still get it if your vaxed” people must intentionally misunderstand. I can’t believe they say it and can’t comprehend that vaccines help immensely but not 100%.


Exactly. And they also pretend not to understand that an elderly person, like OP s mom -- even one who is vaxxed and boosted -- can still get very sick and even die from COVID. So, in response to the cousin's question, "Are we still a threat?", I would respond, "Yes, you are still a threat. Have a nice mother's day and enjoy being a selfish liar."


When did the cousin lie?
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 14:11     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
No. I don't socialize with people who are against vaccinations.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:42     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
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Anonymous wrote:No, I wouldn't go out to brunch with my unvaccinated cousins especially if my elderly mother will be joining us. I'm at a stage in life that I don't bend backwards to accommodate selfish people with no common sense.


I'm fully vaxxed/boosted... but don't you think there are other people in that restaurant that aren't vaccinated besides your cousins? Eating out has some inherent risk if you are Covid cautious, so you just have to decide if you are ok with it. If you are ok with eating out, it doesn't make much sense to make sure your cousins are vaccinated.


Vaccinated get Covid. They also spread it.


PP here. I don't disagree with you, we all know that now. I only mentioned that I was vaxxed/boosted for context for OP. Basically, my point is, if OP has drawn her line at not being around unvaccinated people, fine. BUT there's no way everyone in that restaurant is vaccinated, so why does it matter if the cousins are? It's just illogical.


This illogic drives me insane: “I refuse to be around my unvaccinated family and friends, whom I love (presumably), but I’m fine being around strangers, some of whom are surely unvaccinated.”

If you are going to restaurants, you are near unvaccinated people, so why not let some of those unvaccinated people be people you care about?
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:41     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
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Anonymous wrote:No, I wouldn't go out to brunch with my unvaccinated cousins especially if my elderly mother will be joining us. I'm at a stage in life that I don't bend backwards to accommodate selfish people with no common sense.


I'm fully vaxxed/boosted... but don't you think there are other people in that restaurant that aren't vaccinated besides your cousins? Eating out has some inherent risk if you are Covid cautious, so you just have to decide if you are ok with it. If you are ok with eating out, it doesn't make much sense to make sure your cousins are vaccinated.


Yes, of course there is an inherent risk to eating out, but I'm not knowingly going to sit in close proximity to non-vaccinated people, have long conversations with them, possibly share food with them, and possibly hug/shake hands with them.


Still doesn't make sense. Most people I know that have had Covid have no idea where they got it from. Meaning they weren't around a close contact that ended up having Covid after they were together. Most people I know likely got it in passing or being in a crowded area (ie: restaurant) with someone they didn't know or even interact with. I assume I'm exposed to Covid several times a week without knowing it TBH.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:41     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
Vax stuff is so last Current Thing. In fact its two Current Things ago (Slava ukraine and now we are onto Roe v Wade).
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:38     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
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Anonymous wrote:No, I wouldn't go out to brunch with my unvaccinated cousins especially if my elderly mother will be joining us. I'm at a stage in life that I don't bend backwards to accommodate selfish people with no common sense.


I'm fully vaxxed/boosted... but don't you think there are other people in that restaurant that aren't vaccinated besides your cousins? Eating out has some inherent risk if you are Covid cautious, so you just have to decide if you are ok with it. If you are ok with eating out, it doesn't make much sense to make sure your cousins are vaccinated.


Yes, of course there is an inherent risk to eating out, but I'm not knowingly going to sit in close proximity to non-vaccinated people, have long conversations with them, possibly share food with them, and possibly hug/shake hands with them.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:37     Subject: Re:Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
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Would they agree to rapid test if everyone else does too? That should give everyone some comfort.


I'm putting this out there now - thank you, I should have thought of that.


Rapid testing makes sense at a private event, like a brunch you host at your house, not at a public restaurant.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:29     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
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Anonymous wrote:No, I wouldn't go out to brunch with my unvaccinated cousins especially if my elderly mother will be joining us. I'm at a stage in life that I don't bend backwards to accommodate selfish people with no common sense.


I'm fully vaxxed/boosted... but don't you think there are other people in that restaurant that aren't vaccinated besides your cousins? Eating out has some inherent risk if you are Covid cautious, so you just have to decide if you are ok with it. If you are ok with eating out, it doesn't make much sense to make sure your cousins are vaccinated.


Vaccinated get Covid. They also spread it.


PP here. I don't disagree with you, we all know that now. I only mentioned that I was vaxxed/boosted for context for OP. Basically, my point is, if OP has drawn her line at not being around unvaccinated people, fine. BUT there's no way everyone in that restaurant is vaccinated, so why does it matter if the cousins are? It's just illogical.


Pretty much everything about covid has been illogical.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:18     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
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Anonymous wrote:No, I wouldn't go out to brunch with my unvaccinated cousins especially if my elderly mother will be joining us. I'm at a stage in life that I don't bend backwards to accommodate selfish people with no common sense.


I'm fully vaxxed/boosted... but don't you think there are other people in that restaurant that aren't vaccinated besides your cousins? Eating out has some inherent risk if you are Covid cautious, so you just have to decide if you are ok with it. If you are ok with eating out, it doesn't make much sense to make sure your cousins are vaccinated.


Vaccinated get Covid. They also spread it.


PP here. I don't disagree with you, we all know that now. I only mentioned that I was vaxxed/boosted for context for OP. Basically, my point is, if OP has drawn her line at not being around unvaccinated people, fine. BUT there's no way everyone in that restaurant is vaccinated, so why does it matter if the cousins are? It's just illogical.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:04     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, at this point why bother with the anti-vaxxer crowd? Haven't they done enough damage? Their actions and votes are quite literally destroying the country.

Get that toxicity out of your life.


Wut?
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:03     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
Anonymous wrote:Would they agree to rapid test if everyone else does too? That should give everyone some comfort.


Count me out of attending this lunch! I'm done living in fear of Covid. Rapid tests don't seem to detect Omicron until a couple days after symptoms.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:02     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
Honestly, at this point why bother with the anti-vaxxer crowd? Haven't they done enough damage? Their actions and votes are quite literally destroying the country.

Get that toxicity out of your life.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:01     Subject: Re:Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
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I would go to brunch with your cousins but in their position would also decline having brunch with you. You’re overstepping so not worth the hassle.


OP here --- please know that I did NOT ask if they were vaccinated or not prior to inviting them to join us for brunch. They accepted the invite, then on their own shared that "however please know that none of us are vaccinated...so let us know if that's an issue for you or your mom"......at which point my response was "we will sit in outdoor area that is covered but still partially ventilated....my mom can sit opposite end of table"

The only overstepping was maybe when I..totally out of curiosity because this was being requested by employers at one point...asked "do you do weekly rapid tests since you are not vaccinated?"

Her response was "OMG...so we're still a threat?" -- which I thought was bit overreacting.


I don’t think she was overreacting.


Agree. OP should not have asked about weekly testing. Vaccinated people can still spread the virus. The unvaxed cousins aren't more likely to give it to grandma than OP herself.

As long as grandma is vaccinated and also a willing participant in this lunch, then OP needs to drop the matter.
Anonymous
Post 05/04/2022 13:00     Subject: Would you go out to Brunch with your Unvaccinated cousins?
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Anonymous wrote:All these “you can still get it if your vaxed” people must intentionally misunderstand. I can’t believe they say it and can’t comprehend that vaccines help immensely but not 100%.


Exactly. And they also pretend not to understand that an elderly person, like OP s mom -- even one who is vaxxed and boosted -- can still get very sick and even die from COVID. So, in response to the cousin's question, "Are we still a threat?", I would respond, "Yes, you are still a threat. Have a nice mother's day and enjoy being a selfish liar."


But that's a different argument. If an elderly person is high risk, they shouldn't be around vaxxed or unvaxxed. The vaccination doesn't prevent infection. We've known this for a while now, though I'm not sure when we were officially allowed to say it.