Anonymous
04/26/2022 12:35
Subject: Re:Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have not been following this topic, but am interested in what the court is ruling on. Can someone point me to a thread with a plain language explanation of the admissions change? Thank you!
1. 2020 TJ admission results showed black students are TS (too small, less than 10). George Floyd happened. The SB and the superintendent decided to change the admission policy to increase the numbers of URMs.
2. The SB changed the policy that removed the entrance exam, added quota for attending middle school (deliberately not using base school), and experience factors for low income, etc.
3. A group of parents sued the FCPS for discrimination under the 14th amendment
4. A federal district court judge ruled against FCPS that it illegally discriminated against Asians and ordered the suspension of the new admission policy
5. FCPS appealed to the 4th circuit and was granted a stay.
6. The parent group appealed to the SC to lift the stay but the request was denied by 6-3 with Barret and Kavanaugh joining the liberals.
The whole case is still pending in the 4th circuit.
Wasn't there also much pressure, maybe even threat of lawsuits, on behalf of the black and Hispanic students because of the underrepresentation? I don't think you can leave this out. It wasn't just George Floyd.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 12:31
Subject: Re:Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have not been following this topic, but am interested in what the court is ruling on. Can someone point me to a thread with a plain language explanation of the admissions change? Thank you!
1. 2020 TJ admission results showed black students are TS (too small, less than 10). George Floyd happened. The SB and the superintendent decided to change the admission policy to increase the numbers of URMs.
2. The SB changed the policy that removed the entrance exam, added quota for attending middle school (deliberately not using base school), and experience factors for low income, etc.
3. A group of parents sued the FCPS for discrimination under the 14th amendment
4. A federal district court judge ruled against FCPS that it illegally discriminated against Asians and ordered the suspension of the new admission policy
5. FCPS appealed to the 4th circuit and was granted a stay.
6. The parent group appealed to the SC to lift the stay but the request was denied by 6-3 with Barret and Kavanaugh joining the liberals.
The whole case is still pending in the 4th circuit.
And Chief Justice Roberts.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 12:27
Subject: Re:Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:I have not been following this topic, but am interested in what the court is ruling on. Can someone point me to a thread with a plain language explanation of the admissions change? Thank you!
1. 2020 TJ admission results showed black students are TS (too small, less than 10). George Floyd happened. The SB and the superintendent decided to change the admission policy to increase the numbers of URMs.
2. The SB changed the policy that removed the entrance exam, added quota for attending middle school (deliberately not using base school), and experience factors for low income, etc.
3. A group of parents sued the FCPS for discrimination under the 14th amendment
4. A federal district court judge ruled against FCPS that it illegally discriminated against Asians and ordered the suspension of the new admission policy
5. FCPS appealed to the 4th circuit and was granted a stay.
6. The parent group appealed to the SC to lift the stay but the request was denied by 6-3 with Barret and Kavanaugh joining the liberals.
The whole case is still pending in the 4th circuit.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 10:59
Subject: Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Asians getting the shaft again
Just the concept of fair admissions is getting the shaft. I had no idea there were so many extra experience points - one can get 150points by doing nothing And there is no way to differentiate between an average and good kid either with only essays. So no teacher recs, admissions test but base decisions on flowery essays, experience factors and GPAs from middle school which are so inflated. Do you really want such a system for a magnet school? I am new here and not a TJ parent but am at a complete loss here. The only thing that explains this is sheer envy and vindictiveness towards Asians because the process seems only designed to make sure that there are lesser Asians.
The process is meant to find kids who are interested in STEM and represent all of FCPS. The distribution of slots by MS first helps this to happen. The students applying have to maintain a certain GPA and take specific classes. Asian students are still over represented, based on percentage of Asian students in FCPS, at TJ. The percentage of Black and Hispanic and low SES students has increased, making TJ look more like FCPS.
The Asian population was massively over represented and now is only over represented.
Agree the new policy is mild and reasonable. The people complaining seem unhinged.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 10:48
Subject: Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Asians getting the shaft again
Just the concept of fair admissions is getting the shaft. I had no idea there were so many extra experience points - one can get 150points by doing nothing And there is no way to differentiate between an average and good kid either with only essays. So no teacher recs, admissions test but base decisions on flowery essays, experience factors and GPAs from middle school which are so inflated. Do you really want such a system for a magnet school? I am new here and not a TJ parent but am at a complete loss here. The only thing that explains this is sheer envy and vindictiveness towards Asians because the process seems only designed to make sure that there are lesser Asians.
The process is meant to find kids who are interested in STEM and represent all of FCPS. The distribution of slots by MS first helps this to happen. The students applying have to maintain a certain GPA and take specific classes. Asian students are still over represented, based on percentage of Asian students in FCPS, at TJ. The percentage of Black and Hispanic and low SES students has increased, making TJ look more like FCPS.
The Asian population was massively over represented and now is only over represented.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 10:26
Subject: Re:Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:I am anti the new policy, but I don't see how this is a federal case.
It really isn't. I think the SC just said as much.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 10:23
Subject: Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Asians getting the shaft again
Just the concept of fair admissions is getting the shaft. I had no idea there were so many extra experience points - one can get 150points by doing nothing And there is no way to differentiate between an average and good kid either with only essays. So no teacher recs, admissions test but base decisions on flowery essays, experience factors and GPAs from middle school which are so inflated. Do you really want such a system for a magnet school? I am new here and not a TJ parent but am at a complete loss here. The only thing that explains this is sheer envy and vindictiveness towards Asians because the process seems only designed to make sure that there are lesser Asians.
+1. Poor kids at TJ is a travesty and needs to be corrected.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 10:19
Subject: Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Love this energy!
Anonymous
04/26/2022 10:10
Subject: Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:Asians getting the shaft again
Just the concept of fair admissions is getting the shaft. I had no idea there were so many extra experience points - one can get 150points by doing nothing And there is no way to differentiate between an average and good kid either with only essays. So no teacher recs, admissions test but base decisions on flowery essays, experience factors and GPAs from middle school which are so inflated. Do you really want such a system for a magnet school? I am new here and not a TJ parent but am at a complete loss here. The only thing that explains this is sheer envy and vindictiveness towards Asians because the process seems only designed to make sure that there are lesser Asians.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 10:07
Subject: Re:Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
I am anti the new policy, but I don't see how this is a federal case.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 09:49
Subject: Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:Asians getting the shaft again
I could NOT roll my eyes harder at this comment. Give me a freaking break.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 09:48
Subject: Re:Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This also means another year of already crowded high schools like Chantilly, McLean, and Oakton having larger freshmen classes, as their feeder middle schools send fewer kids to TJ, and FCPS twiddling their thumbs about it.
It would be great if the left hand of FCPS ever figured out what the right hand was doing.
huh? you're worried about overcrowding because of TJ?
make it make sense
Are you really that stupid?
Lol, this is a serious worry? Overcrowding at your base school because your kid was denied at TJ??
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
+1 - what a stupid argument
Anonymous
04/26/2022 09:48
Subject: Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:Do you think that if we had an equally highly regarded arts and humanities magnet in the western part of the county, it would take some of the pressure off of TJ?
Another educational opportunity set up to exclude anyone living in the eastern part of the county?
Anonymous
04/26/2022 09:44
Subject: Re:Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:This also means another year of already crowded high schools like Chantilly, McLean, and Oakton having larger freshmen classes, as their feeder middle schools send fewer kids to TJ, and FCPS twiddling their thumbs about it.
It would be great if the left hand of FCPS ever figured out what the right hand was doing.
Just because those schools are crowded doesn't mean the kids get to go to TJ! Come on. That's not why TJ was established. There are crowded schools in literally every county in every state. Put trailers up in the parking lot, hire more teachers - just don't ship to TJ.
Anonymous
04/26/2022 09:38
Subject: Re:Coalition4TJ’s request to block TJ admissions process DENIED 6-3 by Supreme Court
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meh, TJ is now just an admission that some of the high schools in FCPS suck so much that it’s considered unfair not to let at least few dozen kids avoid Annandale, Lewis, Justice, and Mount Vernon.
There are brilliant students who live in those areas. Not every family can afford to live in McLean or aspire to.
It seems like their against having to go to school with poors.
Yup. Elitists feel entitled to have TJ all to themselves.