Anonymous
04/19/2022 20:39
Subject: Re:Is BYU all Mormon?
Anonymous wrote:Among those who follow college distance running (so not that many people), it is a running joke that the BYU male athletes are all 24+ years old.
yes, going on a mission is an obligation for mormon men. so usually they are on the mission from 18 to 20 or 19-21 and then in college from 20-24 or whatever.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 20:36
Subject: Re:Is BYU all Mormon?
Anonymous wrote:Among those who follow college distance running (so not that many people), it is a running joke that the BYU male athletes are all 24+ years old.
All the male athletes are older since most go on their 2 year mission before graduating college. Growing up a neighbor was getting recruited by schools for football that were at the bottoms of div 1. He went on his mission at 18 and came back at 20 weighing 75 pounds more and was 4 inches taller. He didn’t graduate BYU until he was 24 and did great at football at byu. Nice guy, got married at 25 and now his kids are at BYU.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 20:35
Subject: Is BYU all Mormon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Not a troll! We’re a somewhat conservative family and I don’t think strict social rules would be a huge problem for DS. But I wouldn’t want him to be an outcast.
I'm an ex-mo who went to BYU. The honor code (aka social rules) is one thing, but it's so much more than just the honor code. Social life really does revolve around religion and your ward (aka church). Also, almost everyone at BYU is looking to get married quickly, and co-ed socializing generally has the underlying purpose of finding a spouse, so some people might not even associate with your son because he's not mormon and therefore unmarriable in their eyes. Heck, my husband was Mormon, but because he didn't go on a mission he was avoided by a large contingent of girls at BYU. The culture there is extremely niche, there will be great pressure to join the church. A non-member would feel really freaking out of place there, I think.
I would never do it. There are many other conservative/conservative-leaning colleges he could go to.
Non-Mormon. It's not all one big ward - right? Curious how they form wards there? Do parents of BYU kids try to get their kids into "good" wards like a sorority?
DP here. Wards are just based on where you live. A ward has about 200 people in it so that’s maybe two apartment complexes? Your question about what the parents want is an odd one to me. From my experience, parents are pretty hands-off. They might want their kid to live in a nice apartment and those apartments and so their kids will naturally go to a ward with higher SES students, but part of this weird ethos of the church is going to church with whoever your neighbors happen to be rather than people you pick. I can’t imagine a parent trying to maneuver their kid into a more desirable ward since a) Mormon parents are rarely of the helicopter variety b) you might prefer to find “your people” but generally one ward isn’t considered more desirable and c) living on meager means is kind of glorified in the church so even parents who are well off might want their kid to live in a cheaper apartment and go to church with people who are less well-off.
Is it though? I see a few well known and wealthy Mormons that have a very Housewives lifestyle. Rachel Parcell and Jamie Obanion come to mind. Rich, skinny and lots of body flaunting.
the mormons I know are all very materialistic with a big emphasis on looking perfect at all times- in their modest, girl-next-door kind of way. At one point Utah had the highest rate of plastic surgery in the nation (maybe still does). it is an interesting culture to say the least.
The Frank family (Mormon youtubers) scandalously sent their child away to a therapeutic boarding school, as did the McKnights, founders of Cute Girls Hairstyles, who are also Mormon.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 20:31
Subject: Is BYU all Mormon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Not a troll! We’re a somewhat conservative family and I don’t think strict social rules would be a huge problem for DS. But I wouldn’t want him to be an outcast.
I'm an ex-mo who went to BYU. The honor code (aka social rules) is one thing, but it's so much more than just the honor code. Social life really does revolve around religion and your ward (aka church). Also, almost everyone at BYU is looking to get married quickly, and co-ed socializing generally has the underlying purpose of finding a spouse, so some people might not even associate with your son because he's not mormon and therefore unmarriable in their eyes. Heck, my husband was Mormon, but because he didn't go on a mission he was avoided by a large contingent of girls at BYU. The culture there is extremely niche, there will be great pressure to join the church. A non-member would feel really freaking out of place there, I think.
I would never do it. There are many other conservative/conservative-leaning colleges he could go to.
Non-Mormon. It's not all one big ward - right? Curious how they form wards there? Do parents of BYU kids try to get their kids into "good" wards like a sorority?
DP here. Wards are just based on where you live. A ward has about 200 people in it so that’s maybe two apartment complexes? Your question about what the parents want is an odd one to me. From my experience, parents are pretty hands-off. They might want their kid to live in a nice apartment and those apartments and so their kids will naturally go to a ward with higher SES students, but part of this weird ethos of the church is going to church with whoever your neighbors happen to be rather than people you pick. I can’t imagine a parent trying to maneuver their kid into a more desirable ward since a) Mormon parents are rarely of the helicopter variety b) you might prefer to find “your people” but generally one ward isn’t considered more desirable and c) living on meager means is kind of glorified in the church so even parents who are well off might want their kid to live in a cheaper apartment and go to church with people who are less well-off.
Is it though? I see a few well known and wealthy Mormons that have a very Housewives lifestyle. Rachel Parcell and Jamie Obanion come to mind. Rich, skinny and lots of body flaunting.
the mormons I know are all very materialistic with a big emphasis on looking perfect at all times- in their modest, girl-next-door kind of way. At one point Utah had the highest rate of plastic surgery in the nation (maybe still does). it is an interesting culture to say the least.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 20:14
Subject: Is BYU all Mormon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Not a troll! We’re a somewhat conservative family and I don’t think strict social rules would be a huge problem for DS. But I wouldn’t want him to be an outcast.
I'm an ex-mo who went to BYU. The honor code (aka social rules) is one thing, but it's so much more than just the honor code. Social life really does revolve around religion and your ward (aka church). Also, almost everyone at BYU is looking to get married quickly, and co-ed socializing generally has the underlying purpose of finding a spouse, so some people might not even associate with your son because he's not mormon and therefore unmarriable in their eyes. Heck, my husband was Mormon, but because he didn't go on a mission he was avoided by a large contingent of girls at BYU. The culture there is extremely niche, there will be great pressure to join the church. A non-member would feel really freaking out of place there, I think.
I would never do it. There are many other conservative/conservative-leaning colleges he could go to.
Non-Mormon. It's not all one big ward - right? Curious how they form wards there? Do parents of BYU kids try to get their kids into "good" wards like a sorority?
DP here. Wards are just based on where you live. A ward has about 200 people in it so that’s maybe two apartment complexes? Your question about what the parents want is an odd one to me. From my experience, parents are pretty hands-off. They might want their kid to live in a nice apartment and those apartments and so their kids will naturally go to a ward with higher SES students, but part of this weird ethos of the church is going to church with whoever your neighbors happen to be rather than people you pick. I can’t imagine a parent trying to maneuver their kid into a more desirable ward since a) Mormon parents are rarely of the helicopter variety b) you might prefer to find “your people” but generally one ward isn’t considered more desirable and c) living on meager means is kind of glorified in the church so even parents who are well off might want their kid to live in a cheaper apartment and go to church with people who are less well-off.
Is it though? I see a few well known and wealthy Mormons that have a very Housewives lifestyle. Rachel Parcell and Jamie Obanion come to mind. Rich, skinny and lots of body flaunting.
Yeah, I follow a couple Mormon triathletes on Instagram who do Ironman races. Those are not cheap.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 20:13
Subject: Is BYU all Mormon?
Anonymous wrote:Kissing Ruby at Utah State....https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/student_folklore_all/377/
I'm the pp that asked about kissing rugby. I'm totally not surprised that it resulted in a broken nose! When I played, there was a rule that everyone had to take off any jewelry, belts, shoes, etc.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 20:11
Subject: Is BYU all Mormon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Not a troll! We’re a somewhat conservative family and I don’t think strict social rules would be a huge problem for DS. But I wouldn’t want him to be an outcast.
I'm an ex-mo who went to BYU. The honor code (aka social rules) is one thing, but it's so much more than just the honor code. Social life really does revolve around religion and your ward (aka church). Also, almost everyone at BYU is looking to get married quickly, and co-ed socializing generally has the underlying purpose of finding a spouse, so some people might not even associate with your son because he's not mormon and therefore unmarriable in their eyes. Heck, my husband was Mormon, but because he didn't go on a mission he was avoided by a large contingent of girls at BYU. The culture there is extremely niche, there will be great pressure to join the church. A non-member would feel really freaking out of place there, I think.
I would never do it. There are many other conservative/conservative-leaning colleges he could go to.
Non-Mormon. It's not all one big ward - right? Curious how they form wards there? Do parents of BYU kids try to get their kids into "good" wards like a sorority?
DP here. Wards are just based on where you live. A ward has about 200 people in it so that’s maybe two apartment complexes? Your question about what the parents want is an odd one to me. From my experience, parents are pretty hands-off. They might want their kid to live in a nice apartment and those apartments and so their kids will naturally go to a ward with higher SES students, but part of this weird ethos of the church is going to church with whoever your neighbors happen to be rather than people you pick. I can’t imagine a parent trying to maneuver their kid into a more desirable ward since a) Mormon parents are rarely of the helicopter variety b) you might prefer to find “your people” but generally one ward isn’t considered more desirable and c) living on meager means is kind of glorified in the church so even parents who are well off might want their kid to live in a cheaper apartment and go to church with people who are less well-off.
Is it though? I see a few well known and wealthy Mormons that have a very Housewives lifestyle. Rachel Parcell and Jamie Obanion come to mind. Rich, skinny and lots of body flaunting.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 20:02
Subject: Re:Is BYU all Mormon?
Among those who follow college distance running (so not that many people), it is a running joke that the BYU male athletes are all 24+ years old.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 19:52
Subject: Is BYU all Mormon?
Because that is one of the only schools that would take her having never been to school and with no high school diploma due to religious upbringing.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 19:31
Subject: Re:Is BYU all Mormon?
Tara Westover (author of Educated) graduated from there and went on to get an MA and PhD from Cambridge, so I am assuming its a good school. I think she was/is Mormon.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 18:45
Subject: Re:Is BYU all Mormon?
Anonymous wrote:Yes but they’re outcasts
This.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 18:43
Subject: Re:Is BYU all Mormon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Their SLP clinic refuses to treat trans kids.
You mean refuses to prescribe hormone therapy? That's very different from refusing to prescribe a trans kid an antibiotic for strep throat.
No, I mean perform voice therapy. Do you know what an SLP clinic is?
+1. It is horrendous. The ASHA (basically the speech therapy version of the APA, AMA, etc.) came out with a strong statement against BYU's decision.
https://www.asha.org/news/2022/asha-statement-on-brigham-young-university-administration-decision-to-deny-speech-services-for-transgender-clients/
Anonymous
04/19/2022 18:41
Subject: Is BYU all Mormon?
Why would you want to go to a school that controls how you talk, what you wear, what you drink, how you date...I don't get it.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 18:36
Subject: Is BYU all Mormon?
My best friend is Mormon and is sending her child there. I love their family but please do not encourage a non-Mormon to go there. Your son will feel very excluded. Like a previous poster said, all the other guys will have done their missions and are now seeking a Mormon wife.
Anonymous
04/19/2022 17:32
Subject: Re:Is BYU all Mormon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Their SLP clinic refuses to treat trans kids.
You mean refuses to prescribe hormone therapy? That's very different from refusing to prescribe a trans kid an antibiotic for strep throat.
No, I mean perform voice therapy. Do you know what an SLP clinic is?