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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a large public (non “bespoke” lol) university and she hasn’t had this problem much at all. Despite the laughable snobbery here (which I hope is trolling) “you can’t always get what you want, when you want it” is a perfectly acceptable life lesson, and if they haven’t learned it by 18, they need to learn that pronto.

If I’m paying $85k per year then yes, I will need to get what my child wants. If your child is at some public diploma mill then they get what they’ve paid for.

A “public diploma mill” like UVa or Michigan?

I know bright students who've transferred out of both, and yes, they said they felt like huge overwhelming degree mills. That said, the students we know are very sharp private k-12 lifers, so their expectations are higher than the usual dips*** who's just happy to be away from home and partying.

In other words, sheltered snowflakes.

No, they're sharp and enough know what a quality education feels like, while the public lifers don't know what they don't know. And frankly, most k-12 public nitwits don't care and just think a football team, a pretty academic building, and a manicured quad makes a college, any college, "perfect".

Why do you hate public institutions?

Just as the thread captures, they under-fund STEM depts and force thousands of bright undergraduates to fail and/or make them unable to register for courses they need to pursue the most sought after and marketable degrees. While the thousands of fat cat bureaucrats who run the university laugh to the bank, binge drink at football games, and cheat on their spouses at conferences. They do not care about your 18-22 year old children. They won't think twice about covering up a rape. They are awful places to be "educated" or send your 18 year old teen away to.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, common for large public universities.

Please stop spreading disinformation. Public universities are just like Ivies! They are not overcrowded zoos. They don't purposely flunk over half of the STEM first years to force them out of departments. Rah-rah tailgate state!

Go away.

Good morning to the triggered state school graduate who refreshes a Washington DC forum all day from her abode in the Rust Belt. Isn't it sunny yet? Go touch grass.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a large public (non “bespoke” lol) university and she hasn’t had this problem much at all. Despite the laughable snobbery here (which I hope is trolling) “you can’t always get what you want, when you want it” is a perfectly acceptable life lesson, and if they haven’t learned it by 18, they need to learn that pronto.

If I’m paying $85k per year then yes, I will need to get what my child wants. If your child is at some public diploma mill then they get what they’ve paid for.

A “public diploma mill” like UVa or Michigan?

I know bright students who've transferred out of both, and yes, they said they felt like huge overwhelming degree mills. That said, the students we know are very sharp private k-12 lifers, so their expectations are higher than the usual dips*** who's just happy to be away from home and partying.

In other words, sheltered snowflakes.

No, they're sharp and enough know what a quality education feels like, while the public lifers don't know what they don't know. And frankly, most k-12 public nitwits don't care and just think a football team, a pretty academic building, and a manicured quad makes a college, any college, "perfect".

Why do you hate public institutions?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a large public (non “bespoke” lol) university and she hasn’t had this problem much at all. Despite the laughable snobbery here (which I hope is trolling) “you can’t always get what you want, when you want it” is a perfectly acceptable life lesson, and if they haven’t learned it by 18, they need to learn that pronto.

If I’m paying $85k per year then yes, I will need to get what my child wants. If your child is at some public diploma mill then they get what they’ve paid for.

A “public diploma mill” like UVa or Michigan?

I know bright students who've transferred out of both, and yes, they said they felt like huge overwhelming degree mills. That said, the students we know are very sharp private k-12 lifers, so their expectations are higher than the usual dips*** who's just happy to be away from home and partying.

In other words, sheltered snowflakes.

No, they're sharp and experienced enough know what a quality education feels like, while the public lifers don't know what they don't know. And frankly, most k-12 public nitwits don't care and just think a football team, a pretty academic building, and a manicured quad makes a college, any college, "perfect".

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a large public (non “bespoke” lol) university and she hasn’t had this problem much at all. Despite the laughable snobbery here (which I hope is trolling) “you can’t always get what you want, when you want it” is a perfectly acceptable life lesson, and if they haven’t learned it by 18, they need to learn that pronto.

If I’m paying $85k per year then yes, I will need to get what my child wants. If your child is at some public diploma mill then they get what they’ve paid for.

A “public diploma mill” like UVa or Michigan?

I know bright students who've transferred out of both, and yes, they said they felt like huge overwhelming degree mills. That said, the students we know are very sharp private k-12 lifers, so their expectations are higher than the usual dips*** who's just happy to be away from home and partying.

In other words, sheltered snowflakes.

Ignorance is bliss.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a large public (non “bespoke” lol) university and she hasn’t had this problem much at all. Despite the laughable snobbery here (which I hope is trolling) “you can’t always get what you want, when you want it” is a perfectly acceptable life lesson, and if they haven’t learned it by 18, they need to learn that pronto.

If I’m paying $85k per year then yes, I will need to get what my child wants. If your child is at some public diploma mill then they get what they’ve paid for.

A “public diploma mill” like UVa or Michigan?

I know bright students who've transferred out of both, and yes, they said they felt like huge overwhelming degree mills. That said, the students we know are very sharp private k-12 lifers, so their expectations are higher than the usual dips*** who's just happy to be away from home and partying.

I’m here to tell you that at virtually every college and university, most kids party like wild animals.

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My kid had this issue at a small LAC and lots of parents report the same. There are fewer professors and classes to select from, esp in small majors. Class sizes are small but once they hit the cap, there is no more room.

This is such a an important point, and one that we haven't thought about. Would parents who experience this at SLACs name the schools?

Nah, that would be a death knell for the school.

I went to a SLAC and experienced it. You could get classes to graduate, but most of the fun and popular classes went to athletes (who registered first) and then to seniors in the first tranche allowed to register. By the time the last tranche of seniors registered those classes were gone.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a large public (non “bespoke” lol) university and she hasn’t had this problem much at all. Despite the laughable snobbery here (which I hope is trolling) “you can’t always get what you want, when you want it” is a perfectly acceptable life lesson, and if they haven’t learned it by 18, they need to learn that pronto.

If I’m paying $85k per year then yes, I will need to get what my child wants. If your child is at some public diploma mill then they get what they’ve paid for.

A “public diploma mill” like UVa or Michigan?

I know bright students who've transferred out of both, and yes, they said they felt like huge overwhelming degree mills. That said, the students we know are very sharp private k-12 lifers, so their expectations are higher than the usual dips*** who's just happy to be away from home and partying.

In other words, sheltered snowflakes.

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Anonymous wrote: Wry common at state publics….good luck graduating in four years.

It's very easy to graduate in 4 if not 3 years from a state public if you came in with 4s and 5s Official AP scores (even 3s, depending on the university). But mediocre underachievers without a handful of strong AP scores, yes, parents ought to budget for a 5th year. And don't forget to account for opportunity cost of one year of lost wages. I think the average starting salary for a college grad is now $50K? So public university cost of attendance of $30K + $50K lost wages = over -$80K for that fifth year. Ouch.

An entire 5th year usually means you failed classes along the way. Beyond the top public’s, smaller regional public’s accept CLEP exams to the same extent that they accept APs, and CLEP exams can be taken throughout college.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a large public (non “bespoke” lol) university and she hasn’t had this problem much at all. Despite the laughable snobbery here (which I hope is trolling) “you can’t always get what you want, when you want it” is a perfectly acceptable life lesson, and if they haven’t learned it by 18, they need to learn that pronto.

If I’m paying $85k per year then yes, I will need to get what my child wants. If your child is at some public diploma mill then they get what they’ve paid for.

A “public diploma mill” like UVa or Michigan?

I know bright students who've transferred out of both, and yes, they said they felt like huge overwhelming degree mills. That said, the students we know are very sharp private k-12 lifers, so their expectations are higher than the usual dips*** who's just happy to be away from home and partying.

Very common at large public universities. That is why a lot of students can't finish in 4 years sometimes...especially in CA.

Anonymous wrote: Wry common at state publics….good luck graduating in four years.

It's very easy to graduate in 4 if not 3 years from a state public if you came in with 4s and 5s Official AP scores (even 3s, depending on the university). But mediocre underachievers without a handful of strong AP scores, yes, parents ought to budget for a 5th year. And don't forget to account for opportunity cost of one year of lost wages. I think the average starting salary for a college grad is now $50K? So public university cost of attendance of $30K + $50K lost wages = over -$80K for that fifth year. Ouch.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, common for large public universities.

Please stop spreading disinformation. Public universities are just like Ivies! They are not overcrowded zoos. They don't purposely flunk over half of the STEM first years to force them out of departments. Rah-rah tailgate state!

Go away.

Anonymous wrote:Must be uva

OP can't be talking about UVA as first year enrollment hasn't started.
That said, its always a rat race and you have to have lots of back up plans. I think this is true of most schools for freshman and even sophomores.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, common for large public universities.

Please stop spreading disinformation. Public universities are just like Ivies! They are not overcrowded zoos. They don't purposely flunk over half of the STEM first years to force them out of departments. Rah-rah tailgate state!