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Anonymous wrote:Jared was one of the leading voices in the Trump admin advocating to keep sanctions and other punishments light for crown prince MbS (aka prince bone spurs) who ordered the killing of dissident Virginia based journalist Khasoggi. that is part of the return on their $2bn investment

I love how human rights violations by KSA only became a concern when a prominent guy who worked for Jeff Bezos got into trouble. KSA has been an very, very ugly place for as long as the U.S. has been friendly with it. And its monarchy has worked hand-in-glove with the American ruling class.

I'll say it again: if you are disturbed by this chain of events, you have to acknowledge that this was just the latest in a long line of similar relations between powerful Americans and the Saudi Royals.

So much whataboutism. A crown prince ordered a hit on a journalist critical of his reign and Jared Kushner was his chief apologist and gets a $2bn investment out of it and for you that’s “business as usual.” No it is not and it’s something worthy of a banana republic, not America

It is ridiculous that you expect Kushner to be prosecuted when system wide KSA has had oversized influence over USA leadership for 50 plus years


who gives a F about 2 Billion dollars.... over 3,000 Americans were killed on 9/11 that was a planned, pre-meditated attack on our country financed by members of Saudi Royal family AND some of those VISAs were , i suspect, given as favors by DoS to Saudi.

Why don't you call THAT to account first. And when you can't get an answer like the 9/11 families can't get an answer and ALL of America is being lied ot about KSA since 9/11 then you have your answer to how Kushner will get away with this

In other words, you are attacking the symptom of the problem and ignoring the buying off of our whole Gov't as the actual cause- for decades, btw

20 years later and EVERY US POTUS, every single one Dem or GOP refuses to tell the grieving families the truth about how KSA bought their gov't out and that is why their loved ones are dead

You are kidding, right?

What did Kushner do for those funds?

And we know how 9/11 happened and we also know Republicans are shits for voting against anything to help first responders and they stole four million of that first responders fun.

Not only should Jared be investigated his ass should already be in jail.

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Anonymous wrote:Jared was one of the leading voices in the Trump admin advocating to keep sanctions and other punishments light for crown prince MbS (aka prince bone spurs) who ordered the killing of dissident Virginia based journalist Khasoggi. that is part of the return on their $2bn investment

I love how human rights violations by KSA only became a concern when a prominent guy who worked for Jeff Bezos got into trouble. KSA has been an very, very ugly place for as long as the U.S. has been friendly with it. And its monarchy has worked hand-in-glove with the American ruling class.

I'll say it again: if you are disturbed by this chain of events, you have to acknowledge that this was just the latest in a long line of similar relations between powerful Americans and the Saudi Royals.

So much whataboutism. A crown prince ordered a hit on a journalist critical of his reign and Jared Kushner was his chief apologist and gets a $2bn investment out of it and for you that’s “business as usual.” No it is not and it’s something worthy of a banana republic, not America

It is ridiculous that you expect Kushner to be prosecuted when system wide KSA has had oversized influence over USA leadership for 50 plus years


who gives a F about 2 Billion dollars.... over 3,000 Americans were killed on 9/11 that was a planned, pre-meditated attack on our country financed by members of Saudi Royal family AND some of those VISAs were , i suspect, given as favors by DoS to Saudi.

Why don't you call THAT to account first. And when you can't get an answer like the 9/11 families can't get an answer and ALL of America is being lied ot about KSA since 9/11 then you have your answer to how Kushner will get away with this

In other words, you are attacking the symptom of the problem and ignoring the buying off of our whole Gov't as the actual cause- for decades, btw

20 years later and EVERY US POTUS, every single one Dem or GOP refuses to tell the grieving families the truth about how KSA bought their gov't out and that is why their loved ones are dead

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Anonymous wrote:Jared was one of the leading voices in the Trump admin advocating to keep sanctions and other punishments light for crown prince MbS (aka prince bone spurs) who ordered the killing of dissident Virginia based journalist Khasoggi. that is part of the return on their $2bn investment

I love how human rights violations by KSA only became a concern when a prominent guy who worked for Jeff Bezos got into trouble. KSA has been an very, very ugly place for as long as the U.S. has been friendly with it. And its monarchy has worked hand-in-glove with the American ruling class.

I'll say it again: if you are disturbed by this chain of events, you have to acknowledge that this was just the latest in a long line of similar relations between powerful Americans and the Saudi Royals.

So much whataboutism. A crown prince ordered a hit on a journalist critical of his reign and Jared Kushner was his chief apologist and gets a $2bn investment out of it and for you that’s “business as usual.” No it is not and it’s something worthy of a banana republic, not America

You are clearly guilty of WTFism with your silly analysis, but I am in no way guilty of 'whataboutism'.

Javanka's scummy deal is minor variation on a decades old problem that has done serious damage to this country AND propped up the Al-Sauds AND kept Salafist terrorism active. Our ruling class has spent decades coddling terrible, terrible behavior by the Saudi royals. Behavior that includes many, many executions and chronically bad treatment of women+minorities among others. But those deals have meant that Javanka won't get touched, because to do so would be to call out so many other power players that effectively it would be a suicide bomb let off by Javanka's putative opponents.

If Javanka's sweetheart deal bothers you, you should embrace what I'm saying and not play your masters' game of pretending that this stuff is some great anomaly.

There is a huge difference between the US turning a blind eye to human rights abuses because we want/need the government’s help in dealing with some foreign policy issue and doing so because the policymakers are getting a guaranteed $25 million/year payoff.

Lots of people are guilty of bad policy, and sure some people trade on their prior government service through lobbying or corporate board seats but Jared is a truly corrupt POS.

+1. The USA has turned a blind eye to many Saudi abuses because it needed the saudis as “Allies” in the war on terror. That’s far different from selling your country’s best interests out to line your own pockets.

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Anonymous wrote:Jared was one of the leading voices in the Trump admin advocating to keep sanctions and other punishments light for crown prince MbS (aka prince bone spurs) who ordered the killing of dissident Virginia based journalist Khasoggi. that is part of the return on their $2bn investment

I love how human rights violations by KSA only became a concern when a prominent guy who worked for Jeff Bezos got into trouble. KSA has been an very, very ugly place for as long as the U.S. has been friendly with it. And its monarchy has worked hand-in-glove with the American ruling class.

I'll say it again: if you are disturbed by this chain of events, you have to acknowledge that this was just the latest in a long line of similar relations between powerful Americans and the Saudi Royals.

So much whataboutism. A crown prince ordered a hit on a journalist critical of his reign and Jared Kushner was his chief apologist and gets a $2bn investment out of it and for you that’s “business as usual.” No it is not and it’s something worthy of a banana republic, not America

You are clearly guilty of WTFism with your silly analysis, but I am in no way guilty of 'whataboutism'.

Javanka's scummy deal is minor variation on a decades old problem that has done serious damage to this country AND propped up the Al-Sauds AND kept Salafist terrorism active. Our ruling class has spent decades coddling terrible, terrible behavior by the Saudi royals. Behavior that includes many, many executions and chronically bad treatment of women+minorities among others. But those deals have meant that Javanka won't get touched, because to do so would be to call out so many other power players that effectively it would be a suicide bomb let off by Javanka's putative opponents.

If Javanka's sweetheart deal bothers you, you should embrace what I'm saying and not play your masters' game of pretending that this stuff is some great anomaly.

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Anonymous wrote:Jared was one of the leading voices in the Trump admin advocating to keep sanctions and other punishments light for crown prince MbS (aka prince bone spurs) who ordered the killing of dissident Virginia based journalist Khasoggi. that is part of the return on their $2bn investment

I love how human rights violations by KSA only became a concern when a prominent guy who worked for Jeff Bezos got into trouble. KSA has been an very, very ugly place for as long as the U.S. has been friendly with it. And its monarchy has worked hand-in-glove with the American ruling class.

I'll say it again: if you are disturbed by this chain of events, you have to acknowledge that this was just the latest in a long line of similar relations between powerful Americans and the Saudi Royals.

So much whataboutism. A crown prince ordered a hit on a journalist critical of his reign and Jared Kushner was his chief apologist and gets a $2bn investment out of it and for you that’s “business as usual.” No it is not and it’s something worthy of a banana republic, not America

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Anonymous wrote:Because we don’t hold rich and powerful people accountable for anything they do in this country.

This

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As I said up thread, this is a very common ruling class scam. It’s terrible, but until you all realize it started long before Trump or Javanka, you’ll be powerless to stop it.

What a weird feint. Why not just prosecute these two cheating schmoes for their crimes instead of wringing your hands and doing nothing? These two are uniquely horrible.

Psst: it’s not a crime no matter what you think. I share your distaste, but unlike those who lost their minds with the Trumps, I was well aware of how bad (often much worse) it was before.

Go heavy or go home with this stuff: take on the deeper problems.

Did I
Guiding foreign policy toward the nation that can fill your own wallet isn’t a “deeper problem”?

IDK, PP that you can claim the USA kiss uppance to Saudi interests is a NEW THING

After All, H.W. Bush had that Capital venture group


.....and then there is the matter of US DOJ has let the Saudi Gov't slide on being the financiers of the 9/11 attacks that KILLED 3,000 Americans and STILL the 9/11 families are not given the truth- by EVERY sitting president since 9/11 including Obama

Now, that, is disgusting