I went to Yale. Wish I followed my gut and gone to Princeton instead. It is a dangerous town. I never felt safe as a woman walking at night around campus. I hated walking past the cemetary (where the new residential colleges are located) to some classes up around science hill. Their residential college system, often spoke of as a big strength, has drawbacks. It is much nicer campus area now than when I was there in the 90s (broadway area is more upscale with lululemon, apple store etc) but I wouldn’t want my kids to go there if they had other comparable choices. Also, STEM is not good at Yale.

New Heavens has a very high crime rate, didn’t look very safe to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is great for economics, has a great alum network, and is much safer than Baltimore. I wouldn't want my daughter in Baltimore where Hopkins is located.

The Hopkins undergrad campus is in Charles Village. Your complaint might have validity for the medical school in East Baltimore, but not for the undergrad campus. Sounds like you’ve never been there.

The campus (which is boring) is a tiny enclave in an awful city. Contrast to Yale for example. New Haven is not a great city, but the Yale campus is sprawling and beautiful and vibrant and dominates the city. The JHU undergrad campus may as well be an office park, there's just not much to it.

OMg. No.

My mother was born and raised in New Haven. Home was practically on campus. New Haven is not safe. We were visiting when it had the most opiod overdoses in one day in the park around the New Haven train station, next to campus.

My cousin's husband was a New Haven firefighter and the stories he told. Yikes. My husband went to Hopkins. The area surrounding Hopkins is safer than the area surrounding Yale.

Anonymous wrote:Duke is great for economics, has a great alum network, and is much safer than Baltimore. I wouldn't want my daughter in Baltimore where Hopkins is located.

+1

When my kid applied school 3 years ago, I had the impression that JHU is a cut-throat school. If things hadn't changed in the last 3 years, I would not pick it, especially against Duke.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is great for economics, has a great alum network, and is much safer than Baltimore. I wouldn't want my daughter in Baltimore where Hopkins is located.

The Hopkins undergrad campus is in Charles Village. Your complaint might have validity for the medical school in East Baltimore, but not for the undergrad campus. Sounds like you’ve never been there.

The campus (which is boring) is a tiny enclave in an awful city. Contrast to Yale for example. New Haven is not a great city, but the Yale campus is sprawling and beautiful and vibrant and dominates the city. The JHU undergrad campus may as well be an office park, there's just not much to it.

Hopkin’s campus is 140 acres. For some reason, people with little familiarity with the school love to pretend they know stuff.

Agree - it is a lovely campus surrounded by mostly nice neighborhoods. I was there in the 90s and liked campus then, couldn't believe when I went back how much nicer it has gotten. I grew up in small town New England, had zero city smarts when I sent to JHU. It wasn't too hard to learn the ropes on how to stay safe, walk in groups, use the campus shuttle system etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is great for economics, has a great alum network, and is much safer than Baltimore. I wouldn't want my daughter in Baltimore where Hopkins is located.

The Hopkins undergrad campus is in Charles Village. Your complaint might have validity for the medical school in East Baltimore, but not for the undergrad campus. Sounds like you’ve never been there.

The campus (which is boring) is a tiny enclave in an awful city. Contrast to Yale for example. New Haven is not a great city, but the Yale campus is sprawling and beautiful and vibrant and dominates the city. The JHU undergrad campus may as well be an office park, there's just not much to it.

Hopkin’s campus is 140 acres. For some reason, people with little familiarity with the school love to pretend they know stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is great for economics, has a great alum network, and is much safer than Baltimore. I wouldn't want my daughter in Baltimore where Hopkins is located.

The Hopkins undergrad campus is in Charles Village. Your complaint might have validity for the medical school in East Baltimore, but not for the undergrad campus. Sounds like you’ve never been there.

The campus (which is boring) is a tiny enclave in an awful city. Contrast to Yale for example. New Haven is not a great city, but the Yale campus is sprawling and beautiful and vibrant and dominates the city. The JHU undergrad campus may as well be an office park, there's just not much to it.

Duke for better job prospects. Hopkins for better grad school prospects.

i've never even been to duke, and I would say you'd be craze to choose JHU ove duke for student life experience alone. Undergrads I know who went to JHU did not enjoy it. Undregrads at Duke love their time there. Visit the JHU campus and see for yourself. It's a pretty sad campus.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is great for economics, has a great alum network, and is much safer than Baltimore. I wouldn't want my daughter in Baltimore where Hopkins is located.

The Hopkins undergrad campus is in Charles Village. Your complaint might have validity for the medical school in East Baltimore, but not for the undergrad campus. Sounds like you’ve never been there.

CV isn't that safe. It's better than it used to be, but safety is something to consider for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke if you are White and/or umc or chase that milieu

Hopkins if you are a minority or middle class

Duke is definitely more "white". Make of it what you will.

Hopkins is more diverse because their admission system favors academic strength.

Why would an admission policy that favors academic strength results in more diversity?
If they emphasize academic strength they would consider social aspects less, which would result in the opposite, wouldn't it?

Anonymous wrote:Duke is great for economics, has a great alum network, and is much safer than Baltimore. I wouldn't want my daughter in Baltimore where Hopkins is located.

The Hopkins undergrad campus is in Charles Village. Your complaint might have validity for the medical school in East Baltimore, but not for the undergrad campus. Sounds like you’ve never been there.

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Anonymous wrote:JHU has more of a STEM feel to it than Duke (because of the dominance of the medical school and the public health school at Hopkins). To be clear: I think Duke is extremely strong for STEM. JHU feels more STEMy for reason indicated above.

If you are doing STEM, if you are doing public policy, it’s still very intellectual but not STEMy at all, unless you add a STEMy minor or are on pre-med track.

The international studies and economics departments are very strong at Hopkins and very popular with undergrads. Humanities also strong, particularly the writing program.

Duke is great for economics, has a great alum network, and is much safer than Baltimore. I wouldn't want my daughter in Baltimore where Hopkins is located.