Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 15:02     Subject: Re:Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:Isn't business considered STEM? Doesn't it involve math?


Oh lord. I’ve worked in the “business” world for thirty years. No you don’t need or even want a stem degree. Ever hear of calculators and Excel? We gave those tools you know. And yes I know they were developed by stem people lol
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 14:55     Subject: Re:Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Isn't business considered STEM? Doesn't it involve math?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 14:46     Subject: Re:Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:DCUM has so many posts about CS because it’s a certain demographic that always feels screwed. Basically, the students take tough courses and get straight A’s and a perfect SAT. Then, all gazillion of them apply to Ivies for a few hundred seats in CS and scream “discrimination” when most of them get rejected. After they realize it’s in part due to capacity limits, all gazillion apply to next level CS programs. Some get in, some don’t. At the end of the application cycle, other DCUM posters are just happy these threads will end. Point is CS doesn’t dominate majors, but those pursuing them are noisy.


Squeaky wheel gets the grease. A lot of CS parents are squeaky.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 14:32     Subject: Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Smart ones gravitate towards STEM.


Arrogant and untrue. (And my kid is a STEM major)


+1. I have a STEM Magnet grad on track to get a PhD is a science field with a goal of doing applied science for the government or private industry and a humanities kid on track to major in IR and minor in a critical language, with a goal of working In the State Department or foreign policy. Their IQs are less than 5 points apart, but my guess is my humanities/ IR kid goes further in their career because they are more tenacious and have better people skills.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 14:32     Subject: Re:Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Our family isn’t affluent enough for our child to major in history. Sorry.


Are you expecting your child to support you upon graduation from college? I don't understand.


No, they need to be able to get a job after college. There’s no trust fund.


The current unemployment rate is 3.8%. Does your kid suck that bad that they couldn't get a job in that environment?


I know, right? The anxiety over job placement is absurd. Your kid will find their path (and will likely be happier if you just let them choose it and figure it out).

I’ve been hiring lately. There are tons of jobs and where you go to school is not nearly important for most jobs as people on here think.


You can work at Walmart warehouse and still be counted as employed.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 14:27     Subject: Re:Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our family isn’t affluent enough for our child to major in history. Sorry.


Are you expecting your child to support you upon graduation from college? I don't understand.


No, they need to be able to get a job after college. There’s no trust fund.


The current unemployment rate is 3.8%. Does your kid suck that bad that they couldn't get a job in that environment?


I know, right? The anxiety over job placement is absurd. Your kid will find their path (and will likely be happier if you just let them choose it and figure it out).

I’ve been hiring lately. There are tons of jobs and where you go to school is not nearly important for most jobs as people on here think.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 14:26     Subject: Re:Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
DCUM has so many posts about CS because it’s a certain demographic that always feels screwed. Basically, the students take tough courses and get straight A’s and a perfect SAT. Then, all gazillion of them apply to Ivies for a few hundred seats in CS and scream “discrimination” when most of them get rejected. After they realize it’s in part due to capacity limits, all gazillion apply to next level CS programs. Some get in, some don’t. At the end of the application cycle, other DCUM posters are just happy these threads will end. Point is CS doesn’t dominate majors, but those pursuing them are noisy.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 14:24     Subject: Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:Smart ones gravitate towards STEM.


I'm OP. DS's STEM "stats," as ppl like you love to tout, are excellent. There's the 800 SAT math, yes, and every other objective indicator in the STEM endeavors that he just couldn't avoid as a student who wanted to be competitive for college apps.

Did you mean to say "sensible" ? Sensible ones gravitate toward STEM?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 14:21     Subject: Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:Smart ones gravitate towards STEM.


Arrogant and untrue. (And my kid is a STEM major)
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 14:08     Subject: Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:Smart ones gravitate towards STEM.


My DS, at a state school, switched from Math to accounting, not completely because of their abilities but because of career prospects.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 13:40     Subject: Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Smart ones gravitate towards STEM.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 13:21     Subject: Re:Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College is not about job training. Anyone can take programming classes. Coming out of college you want critical thinking skills and an ability to communicate effectively. Most companies will provide some level of training for new hires anyway.


For anyone who has to take out a loan it is. Maybe not for the DCUM crowd.


+1 Go over to the Politics page and see the numerous posts from people weighed down by their college loans, and who are begging the government to forgive the loans. College is too expensive now to be used to just develop critical thinking and communication skills. The exceptions are for students from very wealthy families or those who can obtain a substantial scholarship.

(On the other hand, I work with an excellent and well-paid programmer who obtained his degree in Latin, and doesn't regret the choice.)
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 13:18     Subject: Re:Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:I can understand why kids who don't have that financial cushion feel pressured to choose a major that leads to more lucrative career paths right out of college. DH and I were both humanities/social science majors and we never pushed STEM on our children. DD is a sophomore in college and is about to declare biology but is also looking into economics as well although she'd rather be studying biology + classics, languages, and history. She's just worried because she doesn't have plans to go to law school. How do we support her and reassure her that she will be fine?


For non-STEM & non “vocational” majors, the prestige of the school matters more.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 13:03     Subject: Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
Anonymous wrote:DS22 applied as English major, backed up by ECs that match that. I think it helped him get admitted to a top 20 college. Who knows what he’ll do when he starts there. He’s also good at math and CS. Could easily see him majoring in whatever strikes his fancy at college.


Curious what EC support his interest in English - school newspaper? school lit journal? Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2022 12:54     Subject: Re:Is DS possibly the only '22 senior who is disinterested in STEM?
I can understand why kids who don't have that financial cushion feel pressured to choose a major that leads to more lucrative career paths right out of college. DH and I were both humanities/social science majors and we never pushed STEM on our children. DD is a sophomore in college and is about to declare biology but is also looking into economics as well although she'd rather be studying biology + classics, languages, and history. She's just worried because she doesn't have plans to go to law school. How do we support her and reassure her that she will be fine?