Anonymous
Post 03/21/2022 08:11     Subject: If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
People whose kids were easy to sleep train love sleep training and think everyone else is weird for not doing it. They don’t realize not all kids can be sleep trained. I think it’s okay ti try it, but if the crying goes on longer than an hour or there’s no improvement in 2-3 days, it’s not right for your child.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2022 07:38     Subject: Re:If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
Anonymous wrote:I’m the “delusional” PP. You would be surprised how many parents have shared with me that they also refused to CIO but can’t say it openly because people like you are so judgmental and certain you have it all figured out. One is a neonatologist.

I don’t think my children are “better” than yours in any way, and it says something about you that you phrase things so crudely. What I do believe: my children were exposed to less stress during the first two years of their life. With skyrocketing childhood anxiety, it was worth it to me. I also felt that because I didn’t breastfeed I didn’t want to cut off another channel of attachment—being gently put to sleep.

Please don’t lump all of us in some “mommy martyr” category because it makes you feel better. I hold firm boundaries with my kids and have no issue saying no, never coslept, minimal baby wearing, allow candy and tv, etc. CIO was a bridge too far and my pov is more common than you might think.


We were done with CIO in one night. So no, it was not years of stress.


Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 23:18     Subject: Re:If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My babies weren’t bad sleepers they were just human babies! Without sleep training (meaning let your baby cry) both my babies were sleeping through the night (12 hours with one dreamfeed).

They are both great little sleepers now at 3 and 5. Both go to bed easily and happily and have no anxiety issues (which I think is tied to too young sleep training).


Lol. You have absolutely no idea at 3 and 5 if your kids will have anxiety.


I know they don’t have anxiety now like several kids in their classes do.
And only old people use “lol”.


Ageist much?
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 22:45     Subject: Re:If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My babies weren’t bad sleepers they were just human babies! Without sleep training (meaning let your baby cry) both my babies were sleeping through the night (12 hours with one dreamfeed).

They are both great little sleepers now at 3 and 5. Both go to bed easily and happily and have no anxiety issues (which I think is tied to too young sleep training).


Lol. You have absolutely no idea at 3 and 5 if your kids will have anxiety.


I know they don’t have anxiety now like several kids in their classes do.
And only old people use “lol”.


NP I’m a millennial and my siblings are zoomers and we all use “lol” all the time, are you sure you’re not the one who is too old to know
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 22:42     Subject: If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
I’m sitting on my 3 yr old’s bed right now because he still won’t fall asleep alone while DH tries to calm our 8 month old with head rubs and back scratches. So no. It did not get better.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 22:40     Subject: If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did your baby/child’s sleep ever improve? Either naturally or with non-CIO methods? My baby is 7 months and our lives have completely fallen apart from lack of sleep. I’m too tired to detail all the problems and how bad it is. I don’t want to sleep train but feel we have exhausted everything else, so I’d like to hear only from those who didn’t sleep train and eventually saw improvement to see if realistically there is any hope.

Please do not suggest obvious things like white noise, styles of sleep sack, wake windows, solids, etc. we have Tried. It. All.


Feed your baby when he/she is hungry and comfort when they’re scared. Your reaching the point where your baby gets object permanence and it gets better.

Sorry, OP. It is rough now. But in my experience gets better once the baby knows you will attend to their needs. Are you exclusively breastfeeding? Have you started solids? The more the baby eats and drinks during the day, the longer he’ll sleep at night. It will happen.

Until then, any chance of getting some help in do you can sleep?


Unfortunately we had to let paid night help go because baby developed severe stranger danger and would scream for hours and hours when anyone but us put her to sleep. So my mother just moved in with us to help short term. We started solids and baby is playing more than eating so far but I’m hopeful eventually it will help. I combo feed breastmilk and formula but usually EBF overnight out of convenience. Considering night weaning to see if it would help (baby also has CMPA and I am so sick of the dairy free diet. I do not like breastfeeding anymore).
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 22:39     Subject: Re:If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
We didn’t sleep train our good sleepers. Sleeping in their own beds, in their own rooms, and through the night at nine months. Just happened.

It does get better, OP. My kids are 6, 8 and 11 and have never gotten up in the night unless they were sick.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 22:00     Subject: If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
We didn’t sleep train our bad sleepers. We coslept until about 18 months then transitioned. Had a few good months, coslept some more. They sometimes STTN now, sometimes not. It got easier as the months went on. Usually there’s only one nightly wake up now (age 4).
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 21:38     Subject: If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did your baby/child’s sleep ever improve? Either naturally or with non-CIO methods? My baby is 7 months and our lives have completely fallen apart from lack of sleep. I’m too tired to detail all the problems and how bad it is. I don’t want to sleep train but feel we have exhausted everything else, so I’d like to hear only from those who didn’t sleep train and eventually saw improvement to see if realistically there is any hope.

Please do not suggest obvious things like white noise, styles of sleep sack, wake windows, solids, etc. we have Tried. It. All.


Feed your baby when he/she is hungry and comfort when they’re scared. Your reaching the point where your baby gets object permanence and it gets better.

Sorry, OP. It is rough now. But in my experience gets better once the baby knows you will attend to their needs. Are you exclusively breastfeeding? Have you started solids? The more the baby eats and drinks during the day, the longer he’ll sleep at night. It will happen.

Until then, any chance of getting some help in do you can sleep?



+1. Lots of parents are trending away from sleep training. I couldn’t bring myself to let my baby cry so I didn’t even attempt it. She started sttn around nine months.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 20:53     Subject: If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
Anonymous wrote:My son was a terrible sleeper. Until he was 6 months old, he was up every 45-90 minutes. Then he went to every two hours and it was that way until age 2. He started STTN soon after on his own - too bad by then I’d already had another baby. Who was also a crap sleeper, but started STTN at 18 months. We did not sleep train either kid.


Oh, and I’m not an attachment parent either, or even remotely crunchy! I didn’t even breastfeed either kid for no reason other than not wanting to.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 20:51     Subject: If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
My son was a terrible sleeper. Until he was 6 months old, he was up every 45-90 minutes. Then he went to every two hours and it was that way until age 2. He started STTN soon after on his own - too bad by then I’d already had another baby. Who was also a crap sleeper, but started STTN at 18 months. We did not sleep train either kid.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 20:48     Subject: If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
Both my sons are like this the first didn’t sleep through the night until literally his second birthday. Second is still up like 3 times. Sucks and we tried even sleep training and still did nothing some kids are just horrid sleepers I’m sorry.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 20:36     Subject: If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
Anonymous wrote:Did your baby/child’s sleep ever improve? Either naturally or with non-CIO methods? My baby is 7 months and our lives have completely fallen apart from lack of sleep. I’m too tired to detail all the problems and how bad it is. I don’t want to sleep train but feel we have exhausted everything else, so I’d like to hear only from those who didn’t sleep train and eventually saw improvement to see if realistically there is any hope.

Please do not suggest obvious things like white noise, styles of sleep sack, wake windows, solids, etc. we have Tried. It. All.


Feed your baby when he/she is hungry and comfort when they’re scared. Your reaching the point where your baby gets object permanence and it gets better.

Sorry, OP. It is rough now. But in my experience gets better once the baby knows you will attend to their needs. Are you exclusively breastfeeding? Have you started solids? The more the baby eats and drinks during the day, the longer he’ll sleep at night. It will happen.

Until then, any chance of getting some help in do you can sleep?
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 20:31     Subject: Re:If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
We never sleep trained. All three of our kids started sleeping eight hours straight by about 8 months. As their stomach grew and they didn’t wake up from hunger, they started to sleep longer. All normal, happy kids and good sleepers now.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2022 20:27     Subject: Re:If you had a bad sleeper but didn’t sleep train…
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My babies weren’t bad sleepers they were just human babies! Without sleep training (meaning let your baby cry) both my babies were sleeping through the night (12 hours with one dreamfeed).

They are both great little sleepers now at 3 and 5. Both go to bed easily and happily and have no anxiety issues (which I think is tied to too young sleep training).


Lol. You have absolutely no idea at 3 and 5 if your kids will have anxiety.


I know they don’t have anxiety now like several kids in their classes do.
And only old people use “lol”.