Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 19:59     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While I agree that NoVA has more attractive employers on the whole, it doesn't seem like you're reading the list correctly, and that you misunderstand a lot about it, namely, that places like NIH and other governmental orgs pay salaries that are comparable to COF and Amazon for many of their workers, and that Marriott and Giant are HQs and not service jobs.

Go have a lunchtime glass of Chardonnay or something.


Government offers similar salaries to Amazon? You HAVE to be a trust fund baby and not currently employed at either.


Sure they do. GS-14s and 15s are definitely comparable to the tons of $120-$150k jobs these places have. More at Treasury pay scale. Not everyone is an executive. Stock options ans bonuses are another story though. But a lot of people don’t stay long enough for a lot of those to vest at FAANGs.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 19:14     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:MoCo is cheaper than NoVa, so I’m wondering if those of us who work for government move here because it’s more affordable. That doesn’t exactly reflect the jobs available in MoCo, though. All of my neighbors commute to DC.


Nope that's not it. There are more federal workers living in NoVa. MoCo is just a better place to live
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 19:02     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

We moved to MoCo because it's cheaper and there is more public transportation. Both are important if you are a fed.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 18:58     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

MoCo is cheaper than NoVa, so I’m wondering if those of us who work for government move here because it’s more affordable. That doesn’t exactly reflect the jobs available in MoCo, though. All of my neighbors commute to DC.

Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 15:26     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Those companies in Nova are leaving because of Youngkin. He and other republicans hate Nova.


If he attempts anything with abortion, then me and my woman-owned business are out of here.

-VA resident


The last time the VA GOP went after abortion women didn't run away and the VA GOP ended up losing statewide for over a decade


+1
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 14:56     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a dumb post. Yes, MoCo is a bedroom community. Ok? It's not like their housing got cheaper. Please still choose to live there. This is the DMV, people live and work all over. Who cares if there are more jobs in NoVA. I could see if housing prices were suppressed b/c of it, but they aren't. I hate NoVA. Would never live there. Who cares? I should live there b/c there are more jobs? I'm a lawyer. BTW, I live in DC.


Because MD and MoCo don't diversify their tax base, duh. If everyone in MoCo has to drive to VA for jobs, it means the only real revenue for the county overwhelmingly comes from income taxes. When the county needs more money what can they do? All they can do is raise property and income taxes. The fact that MoCo cannot grow organically and create jobs other than ones that suck off the govt teat means it misses out on tons of corporate taxes that help reduce the taxation burden on residents. Residents will flee if all the county can ever do is raise taxes and struggles to create quality jobs.

LOL. Is that the reason why more people moved to MoCo in the last 10 years than to Fairfax county? People reluctantly move to NoVa because of their jobs and not because of quality of life. Even with plenty of jobs, NoVa is not a pleasant place to live.
Btw, 66% of MoCo residents work in MoCo.


LMAO.

MoCo has tons of illegal immigrants moving in and poorer people. Not a great base to build taxes on.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 14:41     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:Top employers in MoCo:

https://commerce.maryland.gov/Documents/ResearchDocument/MajorEmployersInMontgomeryCounty.pdf

Top employers in Fairfax:

https://www.fairfaxcountyeda.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Major-Employers.pdf

So basically, MoCo relies entirely on govt jobs and some crappy low paying service sector jobs at places like Giant, Safeway, and Target. Meanwhile in NoVa, the top employers are major banks, super high end tech and software companies, top consulting firms, and other major professional services firms. I never knew MoCo was getting its lunch eaten this bad. NoVa has way, way better jobs and a far better diversity of jobs/firms. MoCo relies entirely on govt, clearly has a severe lack of innovative firms that pay high salaries when compared to NoVa, and a large portion of their residents working in very low quality service sector jobs that probably pay just over minimum wage. How is MoCo not doomed with this flimsy of a tax and employer base?




This is one of the reasons GMU students in certain techy and computer science fields are snapped right up before graduation.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 14:39     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a dumb post. Yes, MoCo is a bedroom community. Ok? It's not like their housing got cheaper. Please still choose to live there. This is the DMV, people live and work all over. Who cares if there are more jobs in NoVA. I could see if housing prices were suppressed b/c of it, but they aren't. I hate NoVA. Would never live there. Who cares? I should live there b/c there are more jobs? I'm a lawyer. BTW, I live in DC.


Because MD and MoCo don't diversify their tax base, duh. If everyone in MoCo has to drive to VA for jobs, it means the only real revenue for the county overwhelmingly comes from income taxes. When the county needs more money what can they do? All they can do is raise property and income taxes. The fact that MoCo cannot grow organically and create jobs other than ones that suck off the govt teat means it misses out on tons of corporate taxes that help reduce the taxation burden on residents. Residents will flee if all the county can ever do is raise taxes and struggles to create quality jobs.

LOL. Is that the reason why more people moved to MoCo in the last 10 years than to Fairfax county? People reluctantly move to NoVa because of their jobs and not because of quality of life. Even with plenty of jobs, NoVa is not a pleasant place to live.
Btw, 66% of MoCo residents work in MoCo.


I doubt suppose that you want to include Loudon in your analysis (you know, the county where most of the growth us actually occurring)

Nobody moves to Loudoun county because of their quality of life.

Yes, because everyone knows that Leesburg is god awful and so is living near wineries.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 14:38     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a dumb post. Yes, MoCo is a bedroom community. Ok? It's not like their housing got cheaper. Please still choose to live there. This is the DMV, people live and work all over. Who cares if there are more jobs in NoVA. I could see if housing prices were suppressed b/c of it, but they aren't. I hate NoVA. Would never live there. Who cares? I should live there b/c there are more jobs? I'm a lawyer. BTW, I live in DC.


Because MD and MoCo don't diversify their tax base, duh. If everyone in MoCo has to drive to VA for jobs, it means the only real revenue for the county overwhelmingly comes from income taxes. When the county needs more money what can they do? All they can do is raise property and income taxes. The fact that MoCo cannot grow organically and create jobs other than ones that suck off the govt teat means it misses out on tons of corporate taxes that help reduce the taxation burden on residents. Residents will flee if all the county can ever do is raise taxes and struggles to create quality jobs.

LOL. Is that the reason why more people moved to MoCo in the last 10 years than to Fairfax county? People reluctantly move to NoVa because of their jobs and not because of quality of life. Even with plenty of jobs, NoVa is not a pleasant place to live.
Btw, 66% of MoCo residents work in MoCo.

The people moving to MoCo are increasingly poor, which also strains the tax base.

Of the 66% of residents who work in the county, how many work in the public sector, hospitality or retail?

MoCo is sitting in a very precarious situation. Its a bedroom community with poor infrastructure and transit where the residents and government officials are fighting to prevent better transportation access to job centers in NoVA and DC. MoCo residents should be very worried about the future.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 14:33     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a dumb post. Yes, MoCo is a bedroom community. Ok? It's not like their housing got cheaper. Please still choose to live there. This is the DMV, people live and work all over. Who cares if there are more jobs in NoVA. I could see if housing prices were suppressed b/c of it, but they aren't. I hate NoVA. Would never live there. Who cares? I should live there b/c there are more jobs? I'm a lawyer. BTW, I live in DC.


Because MD and MoCo don't diversify their tax base, duh. If everyone in MoCo has to drive to VA for jobs, it means the only real revenue for the county overwhelmingly comes from income taxes. When the county needs more money what can they do? All they can do is raise property and income taxes. The fact that MoCo cannot grow organically and create jobs other than ones that suck off the govt teat means it misses out on tons of corporate taxes that help reduce the taxation burden on residents. Residents will flee if all the county can ever do is raise taxes and struggles to create quality jobs.

LOL. Is that the reason why more people moved to MoCo in the last 10 years than to Fairfax county? People reluctantly move to NoVa because of their jobs and not because of quality of life. Even with plenty of jobs, NoVa is not a pleasant place to live.
Btw, 66% of MoCo residents work in MoCo.


I doubt suppose that you want to include Loudon in your analysis (you know, the county where most of the growth us actually occurring)


Who in the hell would want to live in Loudoun with that insane debate on schools. You couldn't pay me to live there. I think I'd like to live without racism - thank you.

Yep. Even if there are no jobs in MoCo, people would still move there because it's a great place to live.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 14:32     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Look on the bright side - your housing prices are significantly lower than ours!
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 14:30     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a dumb post. Yes, MoCo is a bedroom community. Ok? It's not like their housing got cheaper. Please still choose to live there. This is the DMV, people live and work all over. Who cares if there are more jobs in NoVA. I could see if housing prices were suppressed b/c of it, but they aren't. I hate NoVA. Would never live there. Who cares? I should live there b/c there are more jobs? I'm a lawyer. BTW, I live in DC.


Because MD and MoCo don't diversify their tax base, duh. If everyone in MoCo has to drive to VA for jobs, it means the only real revenue for the county overwhelmingly comes from income taxes. When the county needs more money what can they do? All they can do is raise property and income taxes. The fact that MoCo cannot grow organically and create jobs other than ones that suck off the govt teat means it misses out on tons of corporate taxes that help reduce the taxation burden on residents. Residents will flee if all the county can ever do is raise taxes and struggles to create quality jobs.

LOL. Is that the reason why more people moved to MoCo in the last 10 years than to Fairfax county? People reluctantly move to NoVa because of their jobs and not because of quality of life. Even with plenty of jobs, NoVa is not a pleasant place to live.
Btw, 66% of MoCo residents work in MoCo.


I doubt suppose that you want to include Loudon in your analysis (you know, the county where most of the growth us actually occurring)

Nobody moves to Loudoun county because of their quality of life.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 14:27     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a dumb post. Yes, MoCo is a bedroom community. Ok? It's not like their housing got cheaper. Please still choose to live there. This is the DMV, people live and work all over. Who cares if there are more jobs in NoVA. I could see if housing prices were suppressed b/c of it, but they aren't. I hate NoVA. Would never live there. Who cares? I should live there b/c there are more jobs? I'm a lawyer. BTW, I live in DC.


Because MD and MoCo don't diversify their tax base, duh. If everyone in MoCo has to drive to VA for jobs, it means the only real revenue for the county overwhelmingly comes from income taxes. When the county needs more money what can they do? All they can do is raise property and income taxes. The fact that MoCo cannot grow organically and create jobs other than ones that suck off the govt teat means it misses out on tons of corporate taxes that help reduce the taxation burden on residents. Residents will flee if all the county can ever do is raise taxes and struggles to create quality jobs.

LOL. Is that the reason why more people moved to MoCo in the last 10 years than to Fairfax county? People reluctantly move to NoVa because of their jobs and not because of quality of life. Even with plenty of jobs, NoVa is not a pleasant place to live.
Btw, 66% of MoCo residents work in MoCo.


I doubt suppose that you want to include Loudon in your analysis (you know, the county where most of the growth us actually occurring)


Who in the hell would want to live in Loudoun with that insane debate on schools. You couldn't pay me to live there. I think I'd like to live without racism - thank you.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 14:03     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a dumb post. Yes, MoCo is a bedroom community. Ok? It's not like their housing got cheaper. Please still choose to live there. This is the DMV, people live and work all over. Who cares if there are more jobs in NoVA. I could see if housing prices were suppressed b/c of it, but they aren't. I hate NoVA. Would never live there. Who cares? I should live there b/c there are more jobs? I'm a lawyer. BTW, I live in DC.


Because MD and MoCo don't diversify their tax base, duh. If everyone in MoCo has to drive to VA for jobs, it means the only real revenue for the county overwhelmingly comes from income taxes. When the county needs more money what can they do? All they can do is raise property and income taxes. The fact that MoCo cannot grow organically and create jobs other than ones that suck off the govt teat means it misses out on tons of corporate taxes that help reduce the taxation burden on residents. Residents will flee if all the county can ever do is raise taxes and struggles to create quality jobs.

LOL. Is that the reason why more people moved to MoCo in the last 10 years than to Fairfax county? People reluctantly move to NoVa because of their jobs and not because of quality of life. Even with plenty of jobs, NoVa is not a pleasant place to live.
Btw, 66% of MoCo residents work in MoCo.


I doubt suppose that you want to include Loudon in your analysis (you know, the county where most of the growth us actually occurring)
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 13:58     Subject: Wow, I never realized how terrible the gap is between in MoCo vs NoVa for jobs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is such a dumb post. Yes, MoCo is a bedroom community. Ok? It's not like their housing got cheaper. Please still choose to live there. This is the DMV, people live and work all over. Who cares if there are more jobs in NoVA. I could see if housing prices were suppressed b/c of it, but they aren't. I hate NoVA. Would never live there. Who cares? I should live there b/c there are more jobs? I'm a lawyer. BTW, I live in DC.


Because MD and MoCo don't diversify their tax base, duh. If everyone in MoCo has to drive to VA for jobs, it means the only real revenue for the county overwhelmingly comes from income taxes. When the county needs more money what can they do? All they can do is raise property and income taxes. The fact that MoCo cannot grow organically and create jobs other than ones that suck off the govt teat means it misses out on tons of corporate taxes that help reduce the taxation burden on residents. Residents will flee if all the county can ever do is raise taxes and struggles to create quality jobs.

LOL. Is that the reason why more people moved to MoCo in the last 10 years than to Fairfax county? People reluctantly move to NoVa because of their jobs and not because of quality of life. Even with plenty of jobs, NoVa is not a pleasant place to live.
Btw, 66% of MoCo residents work in MoCo.