What. Press. Conference. People?

Let's lay this out:
1. The first thing Russia does is tactical nuclear weapons in Europe targeting NATO forces doing something it doesn't like. There is very little chance it would launch against strategic targets first, because if it did, it would be annihilated within 30 minutes. Like, wiped from the map. We would be too, BTW. It only does this if NATO starts a war with them in Ukraine, which won't happen.
2. In that case, we would respond with the same, probably within hours, targeting Russian forces in Belarus and Western Russia. At this point, 2-3 hours have elapsed.
3. If Russia responds, it now attacks American bases around the world, probably NOT including the Pentagon.
4. America responds.
5. Only now will cities be attacked.

The point is, an all-out exchange is unlikely. You'd probably have hours or days to leave cities. I know this isn't the 1950s-1960s view of nuclear war, but that's more likely today. I still think any nuclear exchange is extremely unlikely, even if things get worse in Ukraine. If Russia attacks NATO, then all bets are off.

Anonymous wrote:You won’t have time.

I grew up here and we never bothered with those “duck and cover” drills in school. We knew we were toast if the Soviets launched against DC.

Yep - I remember studying this in high school and thinking well at least it will happen so fast it wont hurt.

They call it mutually assured destruction for a reason.

How much warning would there be for an incoming missile? Would the EAS tones on the radio and TV be used to warn people? Would the government tell us missiles were coming?

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Anonymous wrote:All my fellow fatalistic GenXers! We know it's best to be vaporized. I grew up outside of Richmond. My dad "comforted" me about the threat of Nuclear War with these words: don't worry we live between DC and Norfolk. We will die before we know what's happening.

Hah, I know.

My concern is if my child is at school and we are close enough to not having a chance to “survive” but not close enough to go instantly.

https://youtu.be/frAEmhqdLFs — as a GenX child of parents of the Silent Generation, I love me some Tom Lehrer.

Hey! Fellow Gen Xer here too. We lived near Norfolk so that's how my parents consoled me as well.

Yep — although we were more in a town like the one in Red Dawn, good times. Mine assured me that since the end result would be Mutually Assured Destruction, no one sane would go there.

[/i] Sane [i] being the operative word there.

It’s beyond clear at this point that Putin is no longer sane. Something has changed with him recently.

Oh, I’m no expert, I don’t think he’s changed, he’s just gotten bolder.

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Anonymous wrote:All my fellow fatalistic GenXers! We know it's best to be vaporized. I grew up outside of Richmond. My dad "comforted" me about the threat of Nuclear War with these words: don't worry we live between DC and Norfolk. We will die before we know what's happening.

Hah, I know.

My concern is if my child is at school and we are close enough to not having a chance to “survive” but not close enough to go instantly.

https://youtu.be/frAEmhqdLFs — as a GenX child of parents of the Silent Generation, I love me some Tom Lehrer.

Hey! Fellow Gen Xer here too. We lived near Norfolk so that's how my parents consoled me as well.

The hell with that. I at least want a fighting chance.

Would WV be far enough away?

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Anonymous wrote:Did you just watch the press conference? I’m a little bugged out too.

What happened? Why does OP think nuclear war is imminent?

I'd like to know too. I didn't want to watch the press conference, but apparently it alarmed a lot of people.

Putin has threatened to give the US/west a war “unlike anything seen before.”

Probably just being a blowhard, but who knows with him.

Anonymous wrote:All my fellow fatalistic GenXers! We know it's best to be vaporized. I grew up outside of Richmond. My dad "comforted" me about the threat of Nuclear War with these words: don't worry we live between DC and Norfolk. We will die before we know what's happening.

+1 a childhood wouldn’t be complete with watching commercials for The Day After and going to sleep looking out your window waiting for the big flash.

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Anonymous wrote:All my fellow fatalistic GenXers! We know it's best to be vaporized. I grew up outside of Richmond. My dad "comforted" me about the threat of Nuclear War with these words: don't worry we live between DC and Norfolk. We will die before we know what's happening.

Hah, I know.

My concern is if my child is at school and we are close enough to not having a chance to “survive” but not close enough to go instantly.

https://youtu.be/frAEmhqdLFs — as a GenX child of parents of the Silent Generation, I love me some Tom Lehrer.

Hey! Fellow Gen Xer here too. We lived near Norfolk so that's how my parents consoled me as well.

Yep — although we were more in a town like the one in Red Dawn, good times. Mine assured me that since the end result would be Mutually Assured Destruction, no one sane would go there.

[/i] Sane [i] being the operative word there.

It’s beyond clear at this point that Putin is no longer sane. Something has changed with him recently.

Anonymous wrote:Did you just watch the press conference? I’m a little bugged out too.

What press conference?

Anonymous wrote:NP: All jokes and insults aside. Is this something we should really be prepping for? Someone educate me please….

Anyone leaving the city today, this week?

We’re leaving tomorrow. Packing up starting tonight.

It depends on the size of the bomb.

One of my college professors was a Hiroshima survivor who then became a US citizen. He started each day telling us how precious life is to which we all rolled our eyes during the first few weeks. But after a few weeks went by, we began to see how genuinely he cared for every single one of us. After a few more weeks, he told us the story of going into Hiroshima after the bombing, what it looked like, who he lost. Not much I remember about my college classes from 35 years ago, but boy do I remember him and his words. I used to tell my kids about him and some of the things he used to say as a demonstration that college is not all about the classes you take but the other things you learn there that you carry forward in life.

He died a couple of years ago and his obituary ran in several newspapers and I was so sad when I saw it but so heartened to see read the obits and learn how he impacted so many lives other than my own.

I know, this really doesn't fit this thread, but once again I am thinking of him.

There's actually some "science" on this because it's a consideration in the secure data hosting industry. Here's a datacenter in Harrisonburg, VA that advertises how it's outside the 50-mile "blast radius" of DC:
https://www.datacentermap.com/usa/virginia/harrisonburg/qts-harrisonburg.html

It seems like 50 miles away from the center is a good measure to use. You can be there in an hour _if_ traffic is OK and it's not everyone else doing the same thing. At least with Harrisonburg, you avoid I-95 to get there which I'm sure would be clogged.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you just watch the press conference? I’m a little bugged out too.

What happened? Why does OP think nuclear war is imminent?

Did you watch the press conference????

Things are getting really scary really fast.