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Anonymous wrote:I'm very liberal and pro-vaxx but I also agree with some of what you said, OP. Or at least I can see where you're coming from. I think the restrictions that have been placed on kids have been truly ridiculous. I think every adult should be vaxxed and boosted and every eligible child should get vaccinated. I think people should wear masks when case counts get high or in areas where medically vulnerable are (hospitals, Dr.'s offices). But I don't understand or agree w masks in schools and childcare settings anymore at this point when all childcare workers and teachers and many of the kids themselves can be vaxxed. I do think the restrictions of masks and extended/recurrent periods of isolation/quarantine are damaging to all kids' social development and also to academic/language development for very young kids. Virtual school is NOT good for most kids that I've seen. Kids haven't been able to have normal childhood experiences--school, activities, birthday parties and playdates, other social experiences. I think we should be more like most European countries that have never closed primary and secondary schools or stopped kids' activities, don't require masks for kids. The kids have been done a huge disservice this whole pandemic.

I don't know where in the US you can go to get away from it unless you're OK being around MAGA people and/or anti-vaxx people. I dislike that extreme even more than the liberal Covid nuts. So I'd personally rather be in a very restrictive area than an anti-vaxx area. I wish there weren't just those 2 extremes. If there was a place where people were liberal, smart, pro-vaxx but also didn't want to shut everything down and wear masks forever, I'd go there in a heartbeat. But is there a place like that? Everywhere I know of is 1 extreme or the other.

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We are moving to Europe in large part because of the extreme Covid policies for young children in DC and also because of the crime here.

Anonymous wrote:Freedom is the greater good.

Some of us would rather risk a life with choices than have a master control is so we have the comfort of childish lack of responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:Go move to rural'ish NC, where my sister + husband + kids are the only vaccinated family on the block.

Most kids and parents on their block have had COVID 2-3 times. Some ofrom COVID. Most of the neighbors still refused to get vaf the kids now have really bad recurring health problems from COVID. Two of the SAHMs on their block have died from COVID while unvaccinated.

In fact, you should switch homes with my sister. They are looking to move to the DMV.

Curious. Is this population there generally on the obese side?

Nope. Mostly active duty military dads + SAHMs, plus military retirees. Dads all got vaccinated at the threat of losing their jobs, but still waited until the last minute. MAGA AF in their neighborhood. No diversity.

Being in the military is a risk factor. Most officers still had to work on base throughout the pandemic. And are you sure there isn't any diversity? In my experience as a biracial ex-military child when a white guy spends his 20s deployed and doesn't have time to date he tends to choose whatever's avaliable regardless of race/nationality/ethnicity. Being deployed takes you all over the country/world. The military has lots of inneracial families of all racial combinations. I don't understand why you're judging for waiting to the last minute to get vaxxed- at least they did it.

MAGA groupthink is a risk factor. But I'm now beyond caring about whether they get sick or not.

Damn all those who think that freedom IS the greater good and don’t believe that health comes from masks and shots with as-yet-unknown longterm side effects. All the smart people rushed to take them knowing that if they get injured or die from the shots neither big Pharma nor government is on the hook to compensation them or their families.

Freedom?

FACT: A whole lot more of you anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers got sick and died, or recovered but now deal with long term effects like not being able to walk around without oxygen canisters than those of us who wore masks and got the vaccines. Where's there freedom in lying in the grave or dealing with damaged lungs and other COVID long haul issues?

Now that COVID is receding, the truth is that we who wore masks and got the vaccines ended up with a lot more freedom than people like you did. Our survival rate was far greater. Health impacts from COVID were far lower for those of us who got the shot. Far fewer of our families were destroyed than those of the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers.

FACT: "Vaccine injuries" were EXTREMELY rare. The proven number of "vaccine injuries" is astronomically small compared to the number of doses given. The vaccines saved millions of lives.

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Anonymous wrote:I had one little baby at the start of the pandemic, who is now school age, and who now has a baby brother. When it all started and was going to be temporary, I did not mind. But staring down the barrel of what lies ahead for their childhoods is bleak.

Two years in, with the harshest restrictions put on our children with no end in sight, I really want to move. DC has changed, in my mind. The economy is dead. The energy of the city is dead. The kids are zombie sheep with no resilience or social skills because of the mandates imposed on them, if they're not also struggling academically and emotionally.

I'm just scared it will never change or turn around, and more open, less politically charged areas are calling to me.

I'm just wondering if others feel the same?

Are you sure you don't have PPD? I mean, this is a bit much. "The kids are zombie sheep..."?? Like, what? Whose kids? My kids and my friends' kids are doing just fine. They are not suffering. Maybe the children who are less fortunate and born into poverty, yes, they are struggling and we should help them. But generally people who post on DCUM aren't in this boat.

The city is dead to you because you have 2 small children and are probably drowning in the day-in/day-out childcare routine. This isn't going to change if you move somewhere else; when your kids are older, life will be easier. The pandemic will also ease in a year or two. DC has a lot to offer, but you sound like your judgment is clouded right now and/or you are depressed.

I'd wait a bit to make any major life decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Go move to rural'ish NC, where my sister + husband + kids are the only vaccinated family on the block.

Most kids and parents on their block have had COVID 2-3 times. Some ofrom COVID. Most of the neighbors still refused to get vaf the kids now have really bad recurring health problems from COVID. Two of the SAHMs on their block have died from COVID while unvaccinated.

In fact, you should switch homes with my sister. They are looking to move to the DMV.

Curious. Is this population there generally on the obese side?

Nope. Mostly active duty military dads + SAHMs, plus military retirees. Dads all got vaccinated at the threat of losing their jobs, but still waited until the last minute. MAGA AF in their neighborhood. No diversity.

Being in the military is a risk factor. Most officers still had to work on base throughout the pandemic. And are you sure there isn't any diversity? In my experience as a biracial ex-military child when a white guy spends his 20s deployed and doesn't have time to date he tends to choose whatever's avaliable regardless of race/nationality/ethnicity. Being deployed takes you all over the country/world. The military has lots of inneracial families of all racial combinations. I don't understand why you're judging for waiting to the last minute to get vaxxed- at least they did it.

MAGA groupthink is a risk factor. But I'm now beyond caring about whether they get sick or not.

Damn all those who think that freedom IS the greater good and don’t believe that health comes from masks and shots with as-yet-unknown longterm side effects. All the smart people rushed to take them knowing that if they get injured or die from the shots neither big Pharma nor government is on the hook to compensation them or their families.

Anonymous wrote:What restrictions? We have had masking for the past year or so. Big deal.