Anonymous wrote:The right wing (sort of) energy position that I'm most open to is the idea that we need to invest in nuclear power.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

So we just give farmers gas subsidies, and make the vast majority of people, who are in urban areas, use mass transit or buy a Chevy Volt($33k)

What a simplistic clueless response.
Your "solution" does nothing for the millions of rural residents who need to drive 10+ miles to the grocery store or 30+ miles to a doctor's office or hospital.
I believe some of you urban dwellers have never stepped outside a city.

Good thing the vast majority of electric cars on the market easily get 200+ miles on a single charge. That should really help the Real Americans get to their doctor or the nearest grocery store. And even rural families have electricity!

Where exactly does that electricity come from to charge all the EV that everyone will eventually own?
Windmills? Solar farms?

Yes. Hydro, wind and solar. Things that don't require fossil fuel and any dependency on russia or the middle east. The right keeps chipring out energy independence. If you REALLY want it, it would be through renewables. With the battery technology, the time is now.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Think long and hard where all the food comes from....

Expensive gas means expensive food sooner or later. At least rural people can grow their own food

Wow. Are you really American? Do you actually even know anything at all about American agriculture? Seems to me you're living in some weird mythical la-la land where all rural people are farmers and food producers. Even in the most heavily agricultural midwestern states like Iowa less than 10% of people are farmers. In reality most rural Americans have the same kinds of jobs that people in the city do, and get most of their groceries from the store just like city people do, except they don't live in the city.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Think long and hard where all the food comes from....

Expensive gas means expensive food sooner or later. At least rural people can grow their own food

Very little actual “food” is grown on US farms. Most is corn, which is used for animal feed and ethanol production for use in gasoline.

Reduce meat consumption and get rid of gasoline engines, and we wouldn’t even need most of the farms we currently have.

Making up crap as you go along, eh?

Even the fruits and vegs imported from Mexico require gas - high gas price, there goes your beloved organics.

Technically speaking, she's right. Most of the food we grow is to feed to our animals that we eat as food. Most of what you see when driving through the midwest is animal feed corn. Not human feed.

Actually, most of what is grown in the midwest is for foreign export.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Think long and hard where all the food comes from....

Expensive gas means expensive food sooner or later. At least rural people can grow their own food

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Think long and hard where all the food comes from....

Expensive gas means expensive food sooner or later. At least rural people can grow their own food

Very little actual “food” is grown on US farms. Most is corn, which is used for animal feed and ethanol production for use in gasoline.

Reduce meat consumption and get rid of gasoline engines, and we wouldn’t even need most of the farms we currently have.

Making up crap as you go along, eh?

Even the fruits and vegs imported from Mexico require gas - high gas price, there goes your beloved organics.

Technically speaking, she's right. Most of the food we grow is to feed to our animals that we eat as food. Most of what you see when driving through the midwest is animal feed corn. Not human feed.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

So we just give farmers gas subsidies, and make the vast majority of people, who are in urban areas, use mass transit or buy a Chevy Volt($33k)

What a simplistic clueless response.
Your "solution" does nothing for the millions of rural residents who need to drive 10+ miles to the grocery store or 30+ miles to a doctor's office or hospital.
I believe some of you urban dwellers have never stepped outside a city.

Good thing the vast majority of electric cars on the market easily get 200+ miles on a single charge. That should really help the Real Americans get to their doctor or the nearest grocery store. And even rural families have electricity!

Where exactly does that electricity come from to charge all the EV that everyone will eventually own?
Windmills? Solar farms?

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Think long and hard where all the food comes from....

Expensive gas means expensive food sooner or later. At least rural people can grow their own food

Very little actual “food” is grown on US farms. Most is corn, which is used for animal feed and ethanol production for use in gasoline.

Reduce meat consumption and get rid of gasoline engines, and we wouldn’t even need most of the farms we currently have.

Making up crap as you go along, eh?

Even the fruits and vegs imported from Mexico require gas - high gas price, there goes your beloved organics.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Think long and hard where all the food comes from....

Expensive gas means expensive food sooner or later. At least rural people can grow their own food

Very little actual “food” is grown on US farms. Most is corn, which is used for animal feed and ethanol production for use in gasoline.

Reduce meat consumption and get rid of gasoline engines, and we wouldn’t even need most of the farms we currently have.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Think long and hard where all the food comes from....

Expensive gas means expensive food sooner or later. At least rural people can grow their own food

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Except all.of the crap you buy at target needs to be shipped and transported. All of your food needs to be transported. It will make food prices skyrocket.

What an idiot living in a bubble you are. Hundreds of millions of people do not live in cities either.

I am literally shaking right now- is this the tone you use with your wife? You sound like a bully

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.

They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.

Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.