Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:34
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends little bit on the major, but in general;
Notre Dame (T20 school with 6th or 7th biggest endowment)
Berkeley (go here if engineering or CS)
UVA (go here if Virginian and money matters)
Boston College
Boston Univeristy
Tulane
Colby
UMCP
Vilanova
Colgate
Fordham
If accepted to both
Notre Dame vs UVA
79% choose Notre Dame. 95% would probably choose Notre Dame if cost is same.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia#box2
Notre Dame vs Berkeley
60% choose Notre Daem. proabaly 80% if cost is same, 20% might be CS/engineering for Berkeley.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley
UVA is clearly a step down from Notre Dame.
Notre Dame is ranked higher and studetns clearly favor it over Berkeley or UVA.
? That really wasn't the question though. Which grad are firms more likely to hire. I'd say in this area Uva. maybe, depends on the major of course.
I have strong views on how the Catholic church treats women, especially in view of its politics on women's reproductive health. I wouldn't trust any ND grad to view women as equal to men. Big pass.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:28
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends little bit on the major, but in general;
Notre Dame (T20 school with 6th or 7th biggest endowment)
Berkeley (go here if engineering or CS)
UVA (go here if Virginian and money matters)
Boston College
Boston Univeristy
Tulane
Colby
UMCP
Vilanova
Colgate
Fordham
If accepted to both
Notre Dame vs UVA
79% choose Notre Dame. 95% would probably choose Notre Dame if cost is same.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia#box2
Notre Dame vs Berkeley
60% choose Notre Daem. proabaly 80% if cost is same, 20% might be CS/engineering for Berkeley.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley
UVA is clearly a step down from Notre Dame.
Notre Dame is ranked higher and studetns clearly favor it over Berkeley or UVA.
? That really wasn't the question though. Which grad are firms more likely to hire. I'd say in this area Uva. maybe, depends on the major of course.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:22
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All else being equal, which it never is:
UC Berkeley
UVA
Notre Dame
Colgate
Boston College
UMD
Colby
Bates
Villanova
Tulane
Boston University
Fordham
Why would anyone go to UVA over Notre Dame if tuition is same unless wants to stay near mommy LOL.
Why would anyone wants to go to the overcrowded pubic school if tuition is same unless engineeinr or CS.
The data clearly agrees with me. People have weired imagination.
because ND us Catholic and in the midst of nowhere.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:22
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 people would have 10 different opinions, so as far as ranking goes, we should just go with the industry standard.
https://premium.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
#19 Notre Dame
#22 UC Berkeley
#25 UVA
My personal opinion agrees with the standard.
Why would anyone go to those overcrowded schools over a solid T20 school if cost is the same.
but it's not "industry standard" to look at a magazine's rankings of colleges when deciding who to hire/interview. LOL. Ok, so Notre Dame is three places higher than Berkeley on a magazine's ranking list. Great. Are you under the impression that the hiring folks are like "well, we have these two candidates, Susie went to Notre Dame and Esmerelda went to Berkeley and Notre Dame is 3 slots higher than Berkeley, so Susie it is!!!" I promise you, it's not.
This has nothing to do with Notre Dame vs. Berkeley, it has to do with the fact that that's just not the way the professional world works.
Well, Notre Dame has been a T20 school for the past 10-20 years consistently.''
Again, Berkeley cheated and got caught for this non-important non-standard ranking LOL.
Must be very important for them. This was only 2019 LOL
Wow these Berkeley people have no shame.
Professional world doesn't think any differently
Enough of the imaginations.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:21
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 people would have 10 different opinions, so as far as ranking goes, we should just go with the industry standard.
https://premium.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
#19 Notre Dame
#22 UC Berkeley
#25 UVA
My personal opinion agrees with the standard.
Why would anyone go to those overcrowded schools over a solid T20 school if cost is the same.
but it's not "industry standard" to look at a magazine's rankings of colleges when deciding who to hire/interview. LOL. Ok, so Notre Dame is three places higher than Berkeley on a magazine's ranking list. Great. Are you under the impression that the hiring folks are like "well, we have these two candidates, Susie went to Notre Dame and Esmerelda went to Berkeley and Notre Dame is 3 slots higher than Berkeley, so Susie it is!!!" I promise you, it's not.
This has nothing to do with Notre Dame vs. Berkeley, it has to do with the fact that that's just not the way the professional world works.
Exactly. I’ve been doing this for decades and I’ve never once looked at college rankings. With that said, I will encourage my kids to include the career center in their research as they consider options, because they can play a huge role, and are not created equal.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:18
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:I hire in the CS sphere. Berkeley and UMD (CP) would get second looks on the basis of the college name, as long as their academics are decent. That's pretty much it. Everyone needs to be able to do well on their 'How would you solve this problem?' type of question, to get hired.
In this field, and especially for newbies, it's all about what you can do, and how well you perform under pressure.
Thank you for this perspective. I am always surprised to see UVA ranked way higher than UMD, while UMD ranks quite high in CS. I guess UMD only ranks high in CS, which is fine as colleges are selected based on major.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 13:56
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:10 people would have 10 different opinions, so as far as ranking goes, we should just go with the industry standard.
https://premium.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
#19 Notre Dame
#22 UC Berkeley
#25 UVA
My personal opinion agrees with the standard.
Why would anyone go to those overcrowded schools over a solid T20 school if cost is the same.
but it's not "industry standard" to look at a magazine's rankings of colleges when deciding who to hire/interview. LOL. Ok, so Notre Dame is three places higher than Berkeley on a magazine's ranking list. Great. Are you under the impression that the hiring folks are like "well, we have these two candidates, Susie went to Notre Dame and Esmerelda went to Berkeley and Notre Dame is 3 slots higher than Berkeley, so Susie it is!!!" I promise you, it's not.
This has nothing to do with Notre Dame vs. Berkeley, it has to do with the fact that that's just not the way the professional world works.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 13:49
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
10 people would have 10 different opinions, so as far as ranking goes, we should just go with the industry standard.
https://premium.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
#19 Notre Dame
#22 UC Berkeley
#25 UVA
My personal opinion agrees with the standard.
Why would anyone go to those overcrowded schools over a solid T20 school if cost is the same.
https://premium.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
#19 Notre Dame
#22 UC Berkeley
#25 UVA
My personal opinion agrees with the standard.
Why would anyone go to those overcrowded schools over a solid T20 school if cost is the same.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 13:42
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:All else being equal, which it never is:
UC Berkeley
UVA
Notre Dame
Colgate
Boston College
UMD
Colby
Bates
Villanova
Tulane
Boston University
Fordham
Why would anyone go to UVA over Notre Dame if tuition is same unless wants to stay near mommy LOL.
Why would anyone wants to go to the overcrowded pubic school if tuition is same unless engineeinr or CS.
The data clearly agrees with me. People have weired imagination.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 13:07
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:All of these schools are "good enough" in my eye to warrant a second look if other things are there (relevant major, internships, awards). Like most people, I'm probably a little partial (maybe somewhat illogically) to schools that have produced past great hires or strong colleagues. In my case, that would include Boston College.
My UMBC hires have opened the door for future grad because they have been excellent.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 13:05
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s completely dependent on what they majored in, their work experience, and how they did in college. All are good schools.
Agree with this.
Yeah, this is a very dumb post. These are all great schools. What is the OP trying to prove?
Anonymous
02/15/2022 13:03
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:All else being equal, which it never is:
UC Berkeley
UVA
Notre Dame
Colgate
Boston College
UMD
Colby
Bates
Villanova
Tulane
Boston University
Fordham
+1 This is how I'd rank also.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 13:03
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
I hire in the CS sphere. Berkeley and UMD (CP) would get second looks on the basis of the college name, as long as their academics are decent. That's pretty much it. Everyone needs to be able to do well on their 'How would you solve this problem?' type of question, to get hired.
In this field, and especially for newbies, it's all about what you can do, and how well you perform under pressure.
In this field, and especially for newbies, it's all about what you can do, and how well you perform under pressure.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 12:58
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:All else being equal, which it never is:
UC Berkeley
UVA
Notre Dame
Colgate
Boston College
UMD
Colby
Bates
Villanova
Tulane
Boston University
Fordham
This might be my favorite response. The poster obviously *knows* this exercise is inane but she still can't help herself.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 12:51
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
All else being equal, which it never is:
UC Berkeley
UVA
Notre Dame
Colgate
Boston College
UMD
Colby
Bates
Villanova
Tulane
Boston University
Fordham
UC Berkeley
UVA
Notre Dame
Colgate
Boston College
UMD
Colby
Bates
Villanova
Tulane
Boston University
Fordham