Anonymous
02/13/2022 12:51
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:This is the speech, honestly from that angle I have a hard time deciphering who it is also
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ROR-Z5JpSR0
Are you familiar with what Louise Lucas looks like?
Either way, if it was at all unclear who it was, Youngkin should have asked someone rather than assuming any black woman making a speech in the state senate must be Lucas.
Anonymous
02/13/2022 12:43
Subject: Re:Youngkin steps in it again
I don't see any rage in Sen. Lucas's tweet. She's correcting him very politely. After 4 years of rude Trump tweets, Sen. Lucas is the engraged one?
I'm Filipino and get mistaken for the Puerto Rican receptionist all the time (by both black and white people), even though she's shorter, older, larger, has opposite style in clothing, and has very short curly hair compare to my very long straight hair. When people come to me looking for her, I politely tell them she's around the corner. That isn't rage.
I'm Filipino and get mistaken for the Puerto Rican receptionist all the time (by both black and white people), even though she's shorter, older, larger, has opposite style in clothing, and has very short curly hair compare to my very long straight hair. When people come to me looking for her, I politely tell them she's around the corner. That isn't rage.
Anonymous
02/13/2022 12:39
Subject: Re:Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:So?
I think it's important to call him out publicly. And I'm not one who usually (ever) does that. But people just think racism doesn't exist. And it doesn't have to be purposeful racism. These slights take power away from others. Imagine many of them each week, and it's really draining. I don't think he did it on purpose.
Which brings me to my next point. Doesn't he have people to vet these things? I work at a lower level of politics and we staff watch our politicians like hawks to make sure they don't do stupid stuff like this.
Anonymous
02/13/2022 11:28
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mistakes happen, he apologized, this makes the woke police look worst
I'm one of two Indian women in my office and get confused for the other one (15 years younger, and at least 50lbs heavier than me) ALL THE TIME. It makes me really, really angry. I bet that has never happened to you before.
+1. I have been in a few work settings where there were only two Indian Americans — we didn’t look alike, we weren’t at the same level, we didn’t even have the same hair length or height. We were mistaken so many times. The knee jerk apologists for Youngkin are making me even more disappointed in his voters.
Anonymous
02/13/2022 11:13
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:Lucas has actively been trying to increase her twitter following since Youngkin got elected to get a national audience. She was recently heavily criticized for tweeting unprofessionally harsh statements against the press and in her defense of such actions in an interview admitted she has paid NOVA consultants that tweet from her account on her behalf, which is unheard of for a Virginia state Senator.
Basically in between sessions in the hallways of the Virginia Capitol Square a reporter was asking her questions (which is considered completely normal course of legislative business) and and she didn’t want to answer. So she tweeted that this particular reporter rudely harassed her, followed her outside and that if the reporter needs to head to a higher standard if he wants to maintain any credibility with legislatures.
Several press groups came to the journalist’s defense and criticized Lucas for overstepping and villainizing the press in its normal course of business and its normal course of conduct. Basically there was no reason to criticize the journalist just because Lucas didn’t feel like answering or didn’t like the questions. In fact Lucas admitted to being angry that any story came out about the incident even though she tweeted about it. The journalist was behaving professionally and has a stellar reputation.
Lucas has not apologized. I cannot take anything from that point going forward with any sincerity of motive. She’s paying people (or the consultants admit they do her favors, which is walking a very fine line of accepting a gift) to write and send tweets with a national focus. So then this happens with Youngkin and she decides to blow it up most likely because it can get national attention for her and increase her recognition. Politics as usual. She’s no saint.
https://www.pressreader.com/usa/richmond-times-dispatch/20220202/281633898637381
Um, this is not about Lucas. It is about a new governor who confused two black women. It’s bad enough he didn’t pay close enough attention (more likely an aide told him who made the speech). But the whole “all black people look alike” thing is at play here too. That’s why it’s bad optics and why Lucas was annoyed.
The only thing is as far as Youngkin’s many mistakes so far goes, this falls into the category of clumsy/casually racist rather than “bad faith policy/illegal/ignorant.” So it’s slightly less egregious but actually more embarrassing.
What a loser Youngkin is. I knew it would be bad but didn’t anticipate this level of incompetence.
Anonymous
02/13/2022 11:08
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:After state senator Mamie Locke finished giving a floor speech about Black History Month, Youngkin texted Louise Lucas to congratulate her on her speech. Apparently he had trouble distinguishing between these two women, who basically look nothing alike other than both being Black women:
In his apology, he basically admitted that he barely paid attention to the speech.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/youngkin-apologizes-mixing-black-women-lawmakers-82848835
This has bad staff work written all over it.
He has surrounded himself with nincompoops.
At least he owned it and apologized immediately.
Anonymous
02/13/2022 11:01
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:There is a national audience on Youngkin, due to his aggressive change to Trump-like policies and behavior.
Lucas is getting a lot of attention for the VA Senate Democrats doing what they can to stop Youngkin.
We are turning into a joke like Florida.
Youngkin had right wing activists from all over the country showing up at school board meetings to threaten and harrass people...
Anonymous
02/13/2022 09:05
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is a national audience on Youngkin, due to his aggressive change to Trump-like policies and behavior.
Lucas is getting a lot of attention for the VA Senate Democrats doing what they can to stop Youngkin.
We are turning into a joke like Florida.
There is national audience in Youngkin for democrats IMO due to McAulliffe nationalizing the gubernatorial election which was a mistake and it cost him big. I have voted democratic all my life but I hated the way Terry ran his election and the push by Virginia democrats to attach Youngkin to Trump all day everyday. It's not swaying undecided voters; it's not changing people's minds. Lucas is basically gaining followers from her own echo chamber, people who already felt very strongly against anything, ANYTHING, remotely connected to Republicans and are avid watchers of MSNBC. I'm not debating the merits of MSNBC, but all she's doing is getting likeminded people to believe themselves and push away those who are moderate (which honestly covers a lot of Virginians, like me).
Politico did a podcast on this phenomenon, maybe it is worth a listen as I may not be explaining it well.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/11/05/youngkin-mcauliffe-politics-virginia-strategy-2021-upset-analysis-519622
I hate Terry too, and Va’s gubernatorial is always a bellwether with national attention. But are you happy with your vote for Youngkin? Because if so, you have switched parties which is not uncommon as people age. Lucas is clumsy in fighting this new fight. We have had D or reasonable R governors for so long that I do not fault her for rallying her troops in Va and nationally. I’m sure both sides will continue to have missteps and we will see how things shake out. I haven’t worried about my state like this in many years.
Anonymous
02/13/2022 09:01
Subject: Re:Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That woman has already started 2 scandals about Youngkin in this first month in office. This is the third. She hates him.
She was planning to keep it private until Youngkin decided to berate Democrats for not confirming Wheeler. Apparently they exist for the sole purpose of rubber stamping whatever Youngkin wants, and really need to know their place.
DP. Ah, so she's retaliating against him for something totally unrelated. She sure is a winner.
Keeping it private was a courtesy to Youngkin. It would have been nice if Youngkin could have shown basic courtesy back. But apparently you don’t hold white wen to the same standard of decorum as you do black women. Figures.
You seem confused. She made this nothingburger public because she was enraged with him about something totally unrelated. She's not a nice person and knows nothing about "basic courtesy." Period.
np Again with the "angry Black women" tripe
Anonymous
02/13/2022 08:57
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
Maybe he did it on purpose to get under her skin and make her publicly lash out and seem petty. Ever think of that?
Anonymous
02/13/2022 08:54
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
This is the speech, honestly from that angle I have a hard time deciphering who it is also
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ROR-Z5JpSR0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ROR-Z5JpSR0
Anonymous
02/13/2022 08:54
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This Youngkin administration has had so many screw ups in such a short time. Total incompetents.
It is an impressive number of unforced errors. That's mediocre white men for you.
Don’t you feel sad when you realize mediocre white men are so much better than you, even with their errors?
Anonymous
02/13/2022 08:46
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:There is a national audience on Youngkin, due to his aggressive change to Trump-like policies and behavior.
Lucas is getting a lot of attention for the VA Senate Democrats doing what they can to stop Youngkin.
We are turning into a joke like Florida.
There is national audience in Youngkin for democrats IMO due to McAulliffe nationalizing the gubernatorial election which was a mistake and it cost him big. I have voted democratic all my life but I hated the way Terry ran his election and the push by Virginia democrats to attach Youngkin to Trump all day everyday. It's not swaying undecided voters; it's not changing people's minds. Lucas is basically gaining followers from her own echo chamber, people who already felt very strongly against anything, ANYTHING, remotely connected to Republicans and are avid watchers of MSNBC. I'm not debating the merits of MSNBC, but all she's doing is getting likeminded people to believe themselves and push away those who are moderate (which honestly covers a lot of Virginians, like me).
Politico did a podcast on this phenomenon, maybe it is worth a listen as I may not be explaining it well.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/11/05/youngkin-mcauliffe-politics-virginia-strategy-2021-upset-analysis-519622
Anonymous
02/13/2022 08:37
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
There is a national audience on Youngkin, due to his aggressive change to Trump-like policies and behavior.
Lucas is getting a lot of attention for the VA Senate Democrats doing what they can to stop Youngkin.
We are turning into a joke like Florida.
Lucas is getting a lot of attention for the VA Senate Democrats doing what they can to stop Youngkin.
We are turning into a joke like Florida.
Anonymous
02/13/2022 07:36
Subject: Youngkin steps in it again
Anonymous wrote:Considering that the last names are so similar I just assumed that his phone (it’s a text, right?) when he (or whoever on his team sends the texts) started typing the last name it pops up a suggestion and he kept going.
Hasn’t anyone started typing an email or text and if the last name is close to another one and the autocorrect or whatever assumes the wrong name and you accidentally email or text the wrong person? Yes, it happens to me every now and then (including yesterday).
My first thought wasn’t he just think every black woman looks a like. I assumed it was a typo glitch that when they pressed send it was too late to fix. The deep dive into this seems like immediate overkill.
Dude, read the article. He intentionally texted Lucas because he thought she gave the speech (since he was distracted by other things and not really paying attention, by his own admission when he apologized). It was only when Lucas texted him back that it was Locke, and not herself, who gave the speech that he realized his error.