Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:53     Subject: Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:You can’t rely on recovered cases. Many people think they’ve had it and recovered when they haven’t.


The EU manages this. Why can’t the US?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:52     Subject: Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My Canadian friends refer to it as The Flu Trux Klan

I don’t think these clowns represent most truckers. It’s all about cultural grievances, Canada-style. Definitely indicative of an urban-rural divide.


Hilarious!

Unvaxxed truckers getting sick is one of the big reasons for supply chain shortages. I guess that's "owning the libs" tho.


Except according to the report, these truckers ARE vaccinated.


Sure, that sounds perfectly rational and logical.

"GODDAMIT I'M NOT GONNA GET THE VACCINE THAT I ALREADY GOT AND I'M GONNA CONVOY ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN PROTEST AGAINST GETTING THE VACCINE THAT I ALREADY GOT!!!"



Hey rocket scientist, it’s a protest against the MANDATES, not the vaccine. You can be vaccinated and still oppose the mandate, genius.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:52     Subject: Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
You can’t rely on recovered cases. Many people think they’ve had it and recovered when they haven’t.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:47     Subject: Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I don’t understand is why we even need mandates. You can look at the vaccine data, and see that it’s very effective. Why dig in your heels and wait for the government to tell you to get vaccinated, or wear a mask? What happened to common sense? Self-preservation? Caring about the common good?


If the government recognized natural immunity and were truthful about the "risk" to certain populations, we would have more trust in what the government says.


Natural immunity is not what it is cracked up to be. Natural Immunity proponents refuse to recognize that getting it to build immunity carries significant risk, having killed 900,000 Americans and left millions more with serious ongoing health issues. They fail to acknowledge that it's not just the elderly and obese, that for example 230,000 children have gotten cases of covid severe enough to require hospitalization. Glenn Beck and other anti-vaxxers have been finding out the hard waay that previously having had covid is no guarantee whatsoever andd Beck has it worse the second time than he did the first. Anti-vaxxers refuse to recognize that the vaccines have already saved millions of lives whereas fighting the vaccines is doing nothing but causing death after death after death.


While natural immunity may not be the safest way to go, the fact remains that it does “count” immunologically. It appears to be just as effective as a booster, and lasting the same amount of time. For the CDC to ignore it and it’s immunologic basis has led to growing mistrust of anything they say. Public health only has so much mileage it can get out of people and it’s blown through it all with nonsense like this.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:46     Subject: Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Let us not get the thread removed. I think it is possible for both right and left-leaning politicians to try and impose limits on the personal freedoms of citizens. One is not exclusive of another.
However, the WaPo article about this is simply very telling. It is not at all what this is about. Fascist? There are some Trumpers in the convoy, but most are regular people that lost their jobs, can't work in person or go to the movies or have their kids play hockey while watching their own Maples Leaves play without masks in huge indoor arenas in the U.S.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:43     Subject: Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks a revolution is not happening in Canada should go on Twitter and look at #wethefringe

There is a MAJOR event happening up north.


And our mainstream media is not reporting about this AT all. They are our neighbors, but crickets from ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN. Because it doesn't fit the narrative.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:36     Subject: Re:Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nova Scotia makes it *illegal* to support the truckers:

https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1487464744151760901?s=20&t=AFSNmkEizKuZ2lOhQTj1qw

Citing its powers under the COVID state of emergency beginning March 2020, the government of Nova Scotia, Canada, has declared it illegal to:

•Finance, organize, aid, or participate in a truck convoy

•Line the roadside in support of a truck convoy

Violators face $10,000 fines.

Staggering, when you think about it. I never, ever, thought a liberal democracy would resort to this.


Question the authority of the State and you will be crushed.


Yep, One thing Covid has shown us is that countries that are believed to be led by "freedom loving people" are really authoritarian states. Look at Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Thank goodness for federalism in the US or we would be just like them.


Here in the US it was authoritarian "freedom-loving" conservatives who passed laws criminalizing protests against oil and gas pipelines, and passed laws that made it legal to use your vehicle to assault protesters who are blocking traffic. Meanwhile note that the truck convoys and their supporters are blocking traffic.


You are an idiot if this is what you believe.


Do you live under a rock?

Florida, Oklahoma https://slate.com/business/2021/04/drivers-hit-protesters-laws-florida-oklahoma-republicans.html

Tennessee: https://newschannel9.com/news/local/tn-bill-drivers-who-hit-protesters-immune-to-civil-liability

Who's the idiot?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:34     Subject: Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
I still can't find a single thing about this on CNN.
And only this on Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/01/28/canada-must-confront-toxic-protest-freedom-convoy/

Definitely not hundreds of vehicles, more like thousands upon thousands.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:31     Subject: Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I don’t understand is why we even need mandates. You can look at the vaccine data, and see that it’s very effective. Why dig in your heels and wait for the government to tell you to get vaccinated, or wear a mask? What happened to common sense? Self-preservation? Caring about the common good?


If the government recognized natural immunity and were truthful about the "risk" to certain populations, we would have more trust in what the government says.


Natural immunity is not what it is cracked up to be. Natural Immunity proponents refuse to recognize that getting it to build immunity carries significant risk, having killed 900,000 Americans and left millions more with serious ongoing health issues. They fail to acknowledge that it's not just the elderly and obese, that for example 230,000 children have gotten cases of covid severe enough to require hospitalization. Glenn Beck and other anti-vaxxers have been finding out the hard waay that previously having had covid is no guarantee whatsoever andd Beck has it worse the second time than he did the first. Anti-vaxxers refuse to recognize that the vaccines have already saved millions of lives whereas fighting the vaccines is doing nothing but causing death after death after death.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:29     Subject: Re:Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
I think it’s fantastic. And from Canadians on the ground, it’s not extreme right-wing making up the majority of protestors. People of all persuasions, ethnicities, races are participating. And supporting the truck drivers with food and supplies.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:22     Subject: Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:What I don’t understand is why we even need mandates. You can look at the vaccine data, and see that it’s very effective. Why dig in your heels and wait for the government to tell you to get vaccinated, or wear a mask? What happened to common sense? Self-preservation? Caring about the common good?


+1

What is it that the truckers think they are accomplishing? The anti-vaxxers and anti-mandate insanity is literally getting people sick and dying. They aren't saving anyone from anything. Freedom and liberty? Hardly. What freedom and liberty do you have when intubated and under sedation in a hospital bed? Or from a grave plot? Or having to drag around an oxygen canister and a walker if you recover? Most of which could have been preventable?

Such sheer stupidity.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:18     Subject: Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:What I don’t understand is why we even need mandates. You can look at the vaccine data, and see that it’s very effective. Why dig in your heels and wait for the government to tell you to get vaccinated, or wear a mask? What happened to common sense? Self-preservation? Caring about the common good?


If the government recognized natural immunity and were truthful about the "risk" to certain populations, we would have more trust in what the government says.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:16     Subject: Re:Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nova Scotia makes it *illegal* to support the truckers:

https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1487464744151760901?s=20&t=AFSNmkEizKuZ2lOhQTj1qw

Citing its powers under the COVID state of emergency beginning March 2020, the government of Nova Scotia, Canada, has declared it illegal to:

•Finance, organize, aid, or participate in a truck convoy

•Line the roadside in support of a truck convoy

Violators face $10,000 fines.

Staggering, when you think about it. I never, ever, thought a liberal democracy would resort to this.


Question the authority of the State and you will be crushed.


Yep, One thing Covid has shown us is that countries that are believed to be led by "freedom loving people" are really authoritarian states. Look at Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Thank goodness for federalism in the US or we would be just like them.


Here in the US it was authoritarian "freedom-loving" conservatives who passed laws criminalizing protests against oil and gas pipelines, and passed laws that made it legal to use your vehicle to assault protesters who are blocking traffic. Meanwhile note that the truck convoys and their supporters are blocking traffic.


You are an idiot if this is what you believe.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:10     Subject: Re:Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nova Scotia makes it *illegal* to support the truckers:

https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1487464744151760901?s=20&t=AFSNmkEizKuZ2lOhQTj1qw

Citing its powers under the COVID state of emergency beginning March 2020, the government of Nova Scotia, Canada, has declared it illegal to:

•Finance, organize, aid, or participate in a truck convoy

•Line the roadside in support of a truck convoy

Violators face $10,000 fines.

Staggering, when you think about it. I never, ever, thought a liberal democracy would resort to this.


Question the authority of the State and you will be crushed.


Yep, One thing Covid has shown us is that countries that are believed to be led by "freedom loving people" are really authoritarian states. Look at Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Thank goodness for federalism in the US or we would be just like them.


Here in the US it was authoritarian "freedom-loving" conservatives who passed laws criminalizing protests against oil and gas pipelines, and passed laws that made it legal to use your vehicle to assault protesters who are blocking traffic. Meanwhile note that the truck convoys and their supporters are blocking traffic.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 08:05     Subject: Re:Canada Truck Convoy, what to think about it?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nova Scotia makes it *illegal* to support the truckers:

https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1487464744151760901?s=20&t=AFSNmkEizKuZ2lOhQTj1qw

Citing its powers under the COVID state of emergency beginning March 2020, the government of Nova Scotia, Canada, has declared it illegal to:

•Finance, organize, aid, or participate in a truck convoy

•Line the roadside in support of a truck convoy

Violators face $10,000 fines.

Staggering, when you think about it. I never, ever, thought a liberal democracy would resort to this.


Question the authority of the State and you will be crushed.


Yep, One thing Covid has shown us is that countries that are believed to be led by "freedom loving people" are really authoritarian states. Look at Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Thank goodness for federalism in the US or we would be just like them.


Exactly. One minute the government is trying to make you get a vaccine that prevents you from dying from a deadly disease. Next thing you know, they’ll be marching you into the gas chambers.