Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got a quote from my builder and the estimate is about the same as yours. Only difference is we don't request for high-end appliance (subzero or wolf). We plan to buy kitchenaid or samsung from HD ourselves.

Cabinet= most expensive expense (also the market is short of glass doors)

Quartz countertop = go to dulles airport stone shops and you can buy and select the pattern yourself to save money. Granite is out of date and you'd better use everything quartz.

Quartz is the laminate of the future.

Definitely. What made granite out of date? It was installed everywhere to make ho hum work look premium, especially condo rehabs. What's today's equivalent? Quartz and house flippers.

Anonymous wrote:I got a quote from my builder and the estimate is about the same as yours. Only difference is we don't request for high-end appliance (subzero or wolf). We plan to buy kitchenaid or samsung from HD ourselves.

Cabinet= most expensive expense (also the market is short of glass doors)

Quartz countertop = go to dulles airport stone shops and you can buy and select the pattern yourself to save money. Granite is out of date and you'd better use everything quartz.

Quartz is the laminate of the future.

I got a quote from my builder and the estimate is about the same as yours. Only difference is we don't request for high-end appliance (subzero or wolf). We plan to buy kitchenaid or samsung from HD ourselves.

Cabinet= most expensive expense (also the market is short of glass doors)

Quartz countertop = go to dulles airport stone shops and you can buy and select the pattern yourself to save money. Granite is out of date and you'd better use everything quartz.

Anonymous wrote:OP here - our's is a mid size kitchen - about 14x16'. the breakdown of costs is roughly -
Cabinets - painted/glazed - $60K
Granite counters - $9K
Labor & materials including wood flooring - $60K

The part I'm really struggling with is the cabinet cost.

Cabinets are the most expensive piece. I was told 40% of overall costs about 15 years ago.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is scaring me. I have a pretty modest condo. I need a new counter, I think cabinets, backsplash, ideally flooring, lighting and a counter with stools for dining. Oh yeah, and a fridge. But , I was hoping to spend around $25K???

Who will even take a small job like mine? All recommendations appreciated!

Check with a place like Cabinet Discounters. They might be able to recommend a contractor who works with them.

Or Home Depot.

Anonymous wrote:This thread is scaring me. I have a pretty modest condo. I need a new counter, I think cabinets, backsplash, ideally flooring, lighting and a counter with stools for dining. Oh yeah, and a fridge. But , I was hoping to spend around $25K???

Who will even take a small job like mine? All recommendations appreciated!

Check with a place like Cabinet Discounters. They might be able to recommend a contractor who works with them.

This thread is scaring me. I have a pretty modest condo. I need a new counter, I think cabinets, backsplash, ideally flooring, lighting and a counter with stools for dining. Oh yeah, and a fridge. But , I was hoping to spend around $25K???

Who will even take a small job like mine? All recommendations appreciated!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - our's is a mid size kitchen - about 14x16'. the breakdown of costs is roughly -
Cabinets - painted/glazed - $60K
Granite counters - $9K
Labor & materials including wood flooring - $60K

The part I'm really struggling with is the cabinet cost.

Two years ago we modeled our kitchen- full gut, DR wall removal, added a pantry, island, etc. I found an Amish cabinetmaker in Ohio who hand built our new maple cabinets, pantry, etc. working from drawings I paid a local design service $200. The carpenter who installed the cabinets said that these cabinets were the first he had ever installed that did not require any shim. Out the door with shipping (the cabinet shop delivered and unloaded them for us) cost just over $19k.

Holy cats, not you again. Please, at this point just shut up with posting about your cheap Amish cabinet maker in Ohio until you’re fricking willing to cough up a bloody name.

And bunk, shims would be needed to install perfect cabinets in an imperfect house. More about variation in walls and floors than quality of cabinet. Out of state cabinet maker couldn't anticipate that.

We are in the process of a kitchen renovation house value about $900K- My First budget was 85K, it looks like it will run just about $100K. Areas that increased cost from original budget- Electrical, refinishing the entire first floor of hardwood, cost of window/slider replacement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We recently did a kitchen remodel - down to the studs and flooring. We're in a typical DC row house, so significantly mush smaller than yours.
$15,000 - plywood base cabinets with all wood front doors custom painted
$7,500 - Quartz counters and backsplash (the quartz goes 18" up the wall)
$7,000 - appliances (some of which were bought pre-covid and I noticed that they've gone up. For instance our panel ready dishwasher was $700 but now $950)
$3,500 - designer fee
$45k - labor and some additional supplies like a new window

So, yes. It sounds like the estimates you got are to be expected and that's probably for a basic kitchen not a high end one.

here's a helpful blog post from 2018 from a designer in Arizona where presumably labor is slightly less expensive than here.

Curious what designer you used? I'm having trouble finding one who won't turn our kitchen into something worthy of a Downton Abbey set. We will be doing something quite similar; did the designer and the contractor already know each other? Or did you find them separately? Thanks!

I worked with a Richmond based designer that I found through Instagram, and a local small contractor. I recently reached out to the designer about some other projects, and she is not taking on non full service projects w/new clients. The local small contractor is someone we previously worked with. He was great on our last project but not as detailed oriented this time. The finish work was shoddy and we ended the project on poor terms.

You might want to try https://aidandesign.com/ in Silver Spring. I saw their work years ago in a Design Houses to benefit Children’s National. Check out their website. They can go in any direction from MCM, traditional to contemporary. I interviewed them pre-covid. At that time, they would do a design for a set fee and - if I remember correctly - deduct that from the cost of the cabinets if you buy directly through them. Check out their website.

Anonymous wrote:We recently did a kitchen remodel - down to the studs and flooring. We're in a typical DC row house, so significantly mush smaller than yours.
$15,000 - plywood base cabinets with all wood front doors custom painted
$7,500 - Quartz counters and backsplash (the quartz goes 18" up the wall)
$7,000 - appliances (some of which were bought pre-covid and I noticed that they've gone up. For instance our panel ready dishwasher was $700 but now $950)
$3,500 - designer fee
$45k - labor and some additional supplies like a new window

So, yes. It sounds like the estimates you got are to be expected and that's probably for a basic kitchen not a high end one.

here's a helpful blog post from 2018 from a designer in Arizona where presumably labor is slightly less expensive than here.

Curious what designer you used? I'm having trouble finding one who won't turn our kitchen into something worthy of a Downton Abbey set. We will be doing something quite similar; did the designer and the contractor already know each other? Or did you find them separately? Thanks!

We’re doing a full kitchen gut in the suburbs (as opposed to a pull and replace) and the total is $130k.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here - our's is a mid size kitchen - about 14x16'. the breakdown of costs is roughly -
Cabinets - painted/glazed - $60K
Granite counters - $9K
Labor & materials including wood flooring - $60K

The part I'm really struggling with is the cabinet cost.

Two years ago we modeled our kitchen- full gut, DR wall removal, added a pantry, island, etc. I found an Amish cabinetmaker in Ohio who hand built our new maple cabinets, pantry, etc. working from drawings I paid a local design service $200. The carpenter who installed the cabinets said that these cabinets were the first he had ever installed that did not require any shim. Out the door with shipping (the cabinet shop delivered and unloaded them for us) cost just over $19k.

Holy cats, not you again. Please, at this point just shut up with posting about your cheap Amish cabinet maker in Ohio until you’re fricking willing to cough up a bloody name.

Anonymous wrote:OP here - our's is a mid size kitchen - about 14x16'. the breakdown of costs is roughly -
Cabinets - painted/glazed - $60K
Granite counters - $9K
Labor & materials including wood flooring - $60K

The part I'm really struggling with is the cabinet cost.

Two years ago we modeled our kitchen- full gut, DR wall removal, added a pantry, island, etc. I found an Amish cabinetmaker in Ohio who hand built our new maple cabinets, pantry, etc. working from drawings I paid a local design service $200. The carpenter who installed the cabinets said that these cabinets were the first he had ever installed that did not require any shim. Out the door with shipping (the cabinet shop delivered and unloaded them for us) cost just over $19k.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP it sounds about right. We just completely gutted and remodeled our very large kitchen. We moved everything aroound, so new gas lines, electric, plumbing, overhead range ventilation that is flush with the ceiling. Top of the line appliances including two beverage fridges, custom cabinets, two dishwashers, two islands, brand new pantry, bar area, new floors. Hired a high-end kitchen designer and used their contractor. Labor was $55K. Total came in at $200K, but that also included refinishing all the wood floors on our entire first floor and painting the entire first floor.

It's spectacular. Good luck - everything is much more expensive now and hard to find good people to do the work. They're all swampped with work.

Better be spectacular. For $200k, I could build you a 3br cape cod. Can’t believe how much people around here pay for just a kitchen.

Not around here you couldn't. I just got quoted $1Mil. to build a 4 BR home on modest lot.

Also kitchens really are the biggest expense in a house. My dad built his house from ground up himself (did most of the labor as well as the design) and the kitchen was a large part of the expense.