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Anonymous wrote:Breaking news; Blondes fire at studio for making them look dumb in Legally Blonde.

This just in: Step mothers everywhere suing Disney for showing them as evil humans who want to torture and kill their stepchildren

More news: Step sisters also filing suit.

My gawd people. These are movies.

last time I checked, hair color or being a step sibling weren't protected classifications. But disability is.

You're gross with your comparisons.

Anonymous wrote:Breaking news; Blondes fire at studio for making them look dumb in Legally Blonde.

This just in: Step mothers everywhere suing Disney for showing them as evil humans who want to torture and kill their stepchildren

More news: Step sisters also filing suit.

My gawd people. These are movies.

Anonymous wrote:Snow White just did not need to be remade. The Disney original is a masterpiece and one of the hallmarks of animation. Countless other Snow White movies have been made. Disney isn’t doing this out of fidelity to art, but greed. There are so many wonderful books and stories and myths from other cultures that Disney can look to instead of yet another remake but they’d rather not take the risk.

So they should have to deal with any reasonable critique, and this is more than reasonable.

Furthermore, the name “Snow White” literally came from the idea that Snow White was so beautiful because her skin was as white as possible. Why do we need to remake this movie in 2022??? Just do something different already!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, the responses on this post really make me sad.

Discrimination against the disabled is ableism. Just because Dinklage has placed in roles in which dwarfism was central to the role in a mythical way does not negate his right to speak out. I am really stunned what people are posting here.

Take dwarfism or any other kind of disability and replace it with being black, Asian, Jewish, etc. So a black actor in 2022 can't complain that something is racist if they played a role in the past that played to racial stereotypes.

Perhaps Dinklage played that role in Narnia because those are only the kind of roles that are offered to dwarfs. No one would even consider him for a role that doesn't call for a dwarf at the time. Now I believe they would, because he has an established career, but imagine he gets tired of the jokes and the attitude that he is only just a dwarf. He actually addresses his role in Narnia in the podcast.

What responses specifically are making you sad?

Anonymous wrote:Are there issues with other dwarves in lit/entertainment like Lord of the Rings?

Would it offend anyone to make a change from dwarves to 7 assorted outcasts?

Anonymous wrote:Wow, the responses on this post really make me sad.

Discrimination against the disabled is ableism. Just because Dinklage has placed in roles in which dwarfism was central to the role in a mythical way does not negate his right to speak out. I am really stunned what people are posting here.

Take dwarfism or any other kind of disability and replace it with being black, Asian, Jewish, etc. So a black actor in 2022 can't complain that something is racist if they played a role in the past that played to racial stereotypes.

Perhaps Dinklage played that role in Narnia because those are only the kind of roles that are offered to dwarfs. No one would even consider him for a role that doesn't call for a dwarf at the time. Now I believe they would, because he has an established career, but imagine he gets tired of the jokes and the attitude that he is only just a dwarf. He actually addresses his role in Narnia in the podcast.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to be insensitive or push a narrative that’s harmful to a marginalized population, but I don’t understand some of the comments here. I can understand why people would get upset about the movie as described, but that’s not the movie I remember.

Where are people getting that they were outcasts rejected by society forced to live together? I always thought they were brothers living together happily (except for Grumpy) in the family home near the diamond mine they owned. I do remember the house was a mess, but they were busy working and had let things slide. I remembered their relationship with Snow White as being more of a mutual arrangement. Basically, she was a live-in housekeeper who was working for room and board (mainly because they took pity on her), but they were all friends and had a lot of fun together. If anything, she was dependent on them. They had all the power and could kick her out at any time (not that they would) and she was completely unable to fend for herself.

Were these part of the original fairy tale that Disney cut out of the animated version? Did I misunderstand and these are proposed changed to the remake? Did I forget that much of the movie? It’s been a while since I’ve watched it, but everybody seems to be talking about a different movie than the one I remember.

I agree with all of the above. I think the OPs description of how the dwarves were perceived is way out there. I would also add that I never viewed them as humans with dwarfism, but rather as a different species entirely, like the dwarves in the Lord of the Rings. A little magical in their work with the gems. And I agree that I don't think they meant them to be like children, rather I think they were doing the sexist trope that a group of men living together would be dirty slobs.

All that being said, I see no need for a remake of this and if the community of humans with dwarfism have concerns, they should be heard and considered.

If Disney wants greater diversity in its story telling, tell new stories (new to Disney) from other cultures.

Well, that, uh, might be part of the issue at hand.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s. A. Fairy tale.

Yes it is a fairy tale, but it pushes a hyperbolic narrative of a real and complex condition that are lived experiences of individuals. Imagine if your own health diagnosis was belittled into an animated fairy tale characterization?

While I am not a fan of 'cancel culture,' I believe Dinklage's response to the Snow White revival is absolutely warranted. It's inappropriate, insensitive and unnecessary. Disney has plenty of ideas and makes great movies. No one is asking for the snow white reprise.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s. A. Fairy tale.

Yes it is a fairy tale, but it pushes a hyperbolic narrative of a real and complex condition that are lived experiences of individuals. Imagine if your own health diagnosis was belittled into an animated fairy tale characterization?

While I am not a fan of 'cancel culture,' I believe Dinklage's response to the Snow White revival is absolutely warranted. It's inappropriate, insensitive and unnecessary. Disney has plenty of ideas and makes great movies. No one is asking for the snow white reprise.

But let me guess. You're ok with Encanto's familial abuse because you liked the LMM soundtrack.

Uh, the familial abuse was the point of the story!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to be insensitive or push a narrative that’s harmful to a marginalized population, but I don’t understand some of the comments here. I can understand why people would get upset about the movie as described, but that’s not the movie I remember.

Where are people getting that they were outcasts rejected by society forced to live together? I always thought they were brothers living together happily (except for Grumpy) in the family home near the diamond mine they owned. I do remember the house was a mess, but they were busy working and had let things slide. I remembered their relationship with Snow White as being more of a mutual arrangement. Basically, she was a live-in housekeeper who was working for room and board (mainly because they took pity on her), but they were all friends and had a lot of fun together. If anything, she was dependent on them. They had all the power and could kick her out at any time (not that they would) and she was completely unable to fend for herself.

Were these part of the original fairy tale that Disney cut out of the animated version? Did I misunderstand and these are proposed changed to the remake? Did I forget that much of the movie? It’s been a while since I’ve watched it, but everybody seems to be talking about a different movie than the one I remember.

I agree with all of the above. I think the OPs description of how the dwarves were perceived is way out there. I would also add that I never viewed them as humans with dwarfism, but rather as a different species entirely, like the dwarves in the Lord of the Rings. A little magical in their work with the gems. And I agree that I don't think they meant them to be like children, rather I think they were doing the sexist trope that a group of men living together would be dirty slobs.

All that being said, I see no need for a remake of this and if the community of humans with dwarfism have concerns, they should be heard and considered.

If Disney wants greater diversity in its story telling, tell new stories (new to Disney) from other cultures.