Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 09:43     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
I have an unhooked kid I'd like to see get into HYPetc. Applied but it's a lottery. Nice, smart kids are a dime a dozen in this lottery.
I'd sure like to know the truth about how the admissions committee at these schools chooses a kid out of the pile of highly qualified but unhooked kids.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 09:33     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
these schools largely do alumni interviews. while it only matters at the very edges, there is some opportunity to flag that a sibling is currently going there and loving it.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 09:27     Subject: Re:Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t sense jealousy in OP post at all. Curiosity and maybe inexperience.

Kids are probably great and humble. You never saw how accomplished they were because they didn’t brag. And guessing their parents didn’t either.

Best guess.


Really? I "sensed" it because she SAID it!


Here's her direct quote:

"I am both jealous and admiring at the same time. Ugh."


I think the tone is not the “I’m so jealous I want to go postal on them” more tongue in cheek. Lighten up


Yeah. Serious, DAD, you seem a bit obsessed. I'm jealous too. Please don't stalk me here like you did other mom.


Don't worry I won't. I'm sure you're too ugly.


Omg go back to the Relationship Discussion thread.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 09:13     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
Maybe the older sibling has been a shining start who has really made a difference on campus, and they see the same in the younger sibling.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 08:39     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I guess it is a lottery and some kids have to win. Guess they got lucky x2.

Or pulled an Aunt Becky.


More likely, the two kids are just brilliant. I’ve met some of these students, and they tower over regular smart kids like mine.


It’s a lottery even for brilliant kids.


I don't think so. I don't think these schools are turning down geniuses. There are way too many bright and capable kids that can succeed with the work load...lottery for them. But brilliant kids are not common.


Guess it depends on how you define “brilliant” or “genius”.

Seems like a lottery even for kids I know who I’d call brilliant/exceptional.


I don't think it really that random. Every year they announce winners of prestigious science or math or other intense HS competitions and they all seem to be accepted into and choosing to attend hypsm type schools


Not all of those winners. There is also, it seems, a bit of luck for HYPS.

If we expand to top 15, sure, but this thread is HYPS.



Not everyone but a very large percentage...too large for it to be a lottery.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 08:38     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I guess it is a lottery and some kids have to win. Guess they got lucky x2.

Or pulled an Aunt Becky.


More likely, the two kids are just brilliant. I’ve met some of these students, and they tower over regular smart kids like mine.


It’s a lottery even for brilliant kids.


I don't think so. I don't think these schools are turning down geniuses. There are way too many bright and capable kids that can succeed with the work load...lottery for them. But brilliant kids are not common.


Guess it depends on how you define “brilliant” or “genius”.

Seems like a lottery even for kids I know who I’d call brilliant/exceptional.


It is, though someone does win that lottery every year. Maybe's the family in OP was just lucky.


Yup. That was my point. Out of that batch of unhooked, brilliant applicants some do hit the lottery.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 08:37     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess it is a lottery and some kids have to win. Guess they got lucky x2.

Or pulled an Aunt Becky.


More likely, the two kids are just brilliant. I’ve met some of these students, and they tower over regular smart kids like mine.


It’s a lottery even for brilliant kids.


I don't think so. I don't think these schools are turning down geniuses. There are way too many bright and capable kids that can succeed with the work load...lottery for them. But brilliant kids are not common.


Guess it depends on how you define “brilliant” or “genius”.

Seems like a lottery even for kids I know who I’d call brilliant/exceptional.


I don't think it really that random. Every year they announce winners of prestigious science or math or other intense HS competitions and they all seem to be accepted into and choosing to attend hypsm type schools


Not all of those winners. There is also, it seems, a bit of luck for HYPS.

If we expand to top 15, sure, but this thread is HYPS.

Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 08:35     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:There is always an angle. You just don't know it. Just because you don't know it, doesn't mean it isn't there. End of story. Just being nice and super smart doesn't cut it any more for elite college admission.
In fact, if they are super smart, they will conceal the angle very well. That's what smart people do. They don't blabber about it and reveal their secrets which would make their achievements look less than spectacular.


This conspiratorial thinking is hilarious. Kids just get accepted sometimes. and while this particular family got both kids in, these same kids may have been rejected at other schools.

Perhaps it makes you or your kid feel better about not getting in to believe everyone is gaming the system, so if it works as a coping mechanism for you, good for you.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 08:34     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess it is a lottery and some kids have to win. Guess they got lucky x2.

Or pulled an Aunt Becky.


More likely, the two kids are just brilliant. I’ve met some of these students, and they tower over regular smart kids like mine.


It’s a lottery even for brilliant kids.


I don't think so. I don't think these schools are turning down geniuses. There are way too many bright and capable kids that can succeed with the work load...lottery for them. But brilliant kids are not common.


Guess it depends on how you define “brilliant” or “genius”.

Seems like a lottery even for kids I know who I’d call brilliant/exceptional.


I don't think it really that random. Every year they announce winners of prestigious science or math or other intense HS competitions and they all seem to be accepted into and choosing to attend hypsm type schools
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 08:21     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
There is always an angle. You just don't know it. Just because you don't know it, doesn't mean it isn't there. End of story. Just being nice and super smart doesn't cut it any more for elite college admission.
In fact, if they are super smart, they will conceal the angle very well. That's what smart people do. They don't blabber about it and reveal their secrets which would make their achievements look less than spectacular.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 08:00     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess it is a lottery and some kids have to win. Guess they got lucky x2.

Or pulled an Aunt Becky.


More likely, the two kids are just brilliant. I’ve met some of these students, and they tower over regular smart kids like mine.


It’s a lottery even for brilliant kids.


I don't think so. I don't think these schools are turning down geniuses. There are way too many bright and capable kids that can succeed with the work load...lottery for them. But brilliant kids are not common.


Guess it depends on how you define “brilliant” or “genius”.

Seems like a lottery even for kids I know who I’d call brilliant/exceptional.


It is, though someone does win that lottery every year. Maybe's the family in OP was just lucky.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 07:15     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess it is a lottery and some kids have to win. Guess they got lucky x2.

Or pulled an Aunt Becky.


More likely, the two kids are just brilliant. I’ve met some of these students, and they tower over regular smart kids like mine.


It’s a lottery even for brilliant kids.


I don't think so. I don't think these schools are turning down geniuses. There are way too many bright and capable kids that can succeed with the work load...lottery for them. But brilliant kids are not common.


Guess it depends on how you define “brilliant” or “genius”.

Seems like a lottery even for kids I know who I’d call brilliant/exceptional.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 06:49     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess it is a lottery and some kids have to win. Guess they got lucky x2.

Or pulled an Aunt Becky.


More likely, the two kids are just brilliant. I’ve met some of these students, and they tower over regular smart kids like mine.


It’s a lottery even for brilliant kids.


I don't think so. I don't think these schools are turning down geniuses. There are way too many bright and capable kids that can succeed with the work load...lottery for them. But brilliant kids are not common.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 06:38     Subject: Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I guess it is a lottery and some kids have to win. Guess they got lucky x2.

Or pulled an Aunt Becky.


More likely, the two kids are just brilliant. I’ve met some of these students, and they tower over regular smart kids like mine.


It’s a lottery even for brilliant kids.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2022 06:12     Subject: Re:Two unhooked kids!
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:You don’t truly know them.

I’m sure people say that about my kids. We are humble (except what I’m writing right now) so you have no idea their test scores, grades, accomplishments, extracurriculars.

People were sort of blown away when my son graduated first in his class (only 1 valedictorian) since we never talked about his grades, scores, etc to neighbors or close friends. He always was very, very bright but a social kid that wasn’t in the “hardcore face in book, parents putting him Hopkins summer stuff and math competitions, etc”.

The kids are obviously super smart.


Super Smart and lucky both, assuming they were unhooked! There are many unhooked super smart kids but few get in to desired schools.
If you don’t mind- what race they are- Asians or whites/ European/ middle Eastern?


White\asian


Probably quietky hired a college advisor/prepper in middle school.

My entire in-law family live in a well off area of L.A. county, major feeder school track area for Stanford, Berkeley, UCKA, etc. Every Asian family hires peppers from middle school through high school.