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Anonymous wrote:Two thoughts occurred to me this morning:

1. It would be absolutely insane for someone who has already been president, then lost his reelection, to go back and get in the mix again. Have to prove himself up against the Cruzes and Rubios and all them. Seems extra humiliating and weird.

2. If Trump and DeSantis were both in the race, wouldn't they likely split the MAGA vote and leave room for some third candidate to actually get the nom? Someone normal - please gd - or at least normal enough. I don't know who that would be. I guess Hogan is going for it - he seems hopeless to me but this path makes it seem slightly less hopeless.

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Prove himself against the Cruzes and Rubios? Overall, I like the thought process of your post, but also, what are you smoking? Trump crushed Cruz and Rubio and both of them have been huge Trump bootlickers since 2016. They are already crushed. They crushed themselves.

DeSantis might still run against Trump, but only if he can get enough support and assurance that Fox and the like will back him publicly against Trump. Or if the GOP tells Trump they won't pay his legal bills if he runs again so he doesn't run. And there's certainly no guarantee there. The midterms will be an interesting test. If the Republicans lose big in what should historically be a winning year for them then real soul-searching will have to be done. You can't lose the White House, House, Senate, and then lose the House and Senate again and keep going down that path.

And if Dems are able to pick up enough Senate seats to force through court reform, bye bye conservative Supreme Court majority.

FWIW Alex Jones has already endorsed DeSantis.

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Anonymous wrote:Two thoughts occurred to me this morning:

1. It would be absolutely insane for someone who has already been president, then lost his reelection, to go back and get in the mix again. Have to prove himself up against the Cruzes and Rubios and all them. Seems extra humiliating and weird.

2. If Trump and DeSantis were both in the race, wouldn't they likely split the MAGA vote and leave room for some third candidate to actually get the nom? Someone normal - please gd - or at least normal enough. I don't know who that would be. I guess Hogan is going for it - he seems hopeless to me but this path makes it seem slightly less hopeless.

ly if

Prove himself against the Cruzes and Rubios? Overall, I like the thought process of your post, but also, what are you smoking? Trump crushed Cruz and Rubio and both of them have been huge Trump bootlickers since 2016. They are already crushed. They crushed themselves.

DeSantis might still run against Trump, but only if he can get enough support and assurance that Fox and the like will back him publicly against Trump. Or if the GOP tells Trump they won't pay his legal bills if he runs again so he doesn't run. And there's certainly no guarantee there. The midterms will be an interesting test. If the Republicans lose big in what should historically be a winning year for them then real soul-searching will have to be done. You can't lose the White House, House, Senate, and then lose the House and Senate again and keep going down that path.

And if Dems are able to pick up enough Senate seats to force through court reform, bye bye conservative Supreme Court majority.

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Anonymous wrote:Two thoughts occurred to me this morning:

1. It would be absolutely insane for someone who has already been president, then lost his reelection, to go back and get in the mix again. Have to prove himself up against the Cruzes and Rubios and all them. Seems extra humiliating and weird.

2. If Trump and DeSantis were both in the race, wouldn't they likely split the MAGA vote and leave room for some third candidate to actually get the nom? Someone normal - please gd - or at least normal enough. I don't know who that would be. I guess Hogan is going for it - he seems hopeless to me but this path makes it seem slightly less hopeless.

ly if

Prove himself against the Cruzes and Rubios? Overall, I like the thought process of your post, but also, what are you smoking? Trump crushed Cruz and Rubio and both of them have been huge Trump bootlickers since 2016. They are already crushed. They crushed themselves.

DeSantis might still run against Trump, but only if he can get enough support and assurance that Fox and the like will back him publicly against Trump. Or if the GOP tells Trump they won't pay his legal bills if he runs again so he doesn't run. And there's certainly no guarantee there. The midterms will be an interesting test. If the Republicans lose big in what should historically be a winning year for them then real soul-searching will have to be done. You can't lose the White House, House, Senate, and then lose the House and Senate again and keep going down that path.

And if Dems are able to pick up enough Senate seats to force through court reform, bye bye conservative Supreme Court majority.

Anonymous wrote:Two thoughts occurred to me this morning:

1. It would be absolutely insane for someone who has already been president, then lost his reelection, to go back and get in the mix again. Have to prove himself up against the Cruzes and Rubios and all them. Seems extra humiliating and weird.

2. If Trump and DeSantis were both in the race, wouldn't they likely split the MAGA vote and leave room for some third candidate to actually get the nom? Someone normal - please gd - or at least normal enough. I don't know who that would be. I guess Hogan is going for it - he seems hopeless to me but this path makes it seem slightly less hopeless.

Anonymous wrote:Trump will definitely run, otherwise he’d be a one-termer like Carter. The problem for him is that Father Time is catching up fast and DeSantis is still young, has smooth, tanned skin and a full, natural hairline.

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Anonymous wrote:1. It would be absolutely insane for someone who has already been president, then lost his reelection, to go back and get in the mix again. Have to prove himself up against the Cruzes and Rubios and all them. Seems extra humiliating and weird.

You mean, like Grover Cleveland? He was the 22nd and 24th POTUS with Benjamin Harrison beating him in between.

And in that in-between election, Grover Cleveland was like Hillary Clinton. He won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college vote, largely on 4 swing states (NY, NJ, CT, IN). When he won the first time, he won all four swing states. When he lost the second election, he only won 2 of those swing states.

And like the second time he won the election, it was a rematch of the election he had lost 4 years ago. Trump is definitely eyeing a rematch against Biden and beating him just like Grover Cleveland against Benjamin Harrison (not that he probably has any idea that that is what he is doing...he probably doesn't even know that either of those two men were previous POTUSes).

Yes, the fact that you can only point to Grover Cleveland as an example helps show why this is super weird. I think it would be really - I don't know. I guess as someone who loathes Republicans now maybe it would be fun to watch them tear each other apart, finally? How hard would they all go after Trump at this point? How do they pretend they are Trumpy while still attacking Trump? And how would Trump do sharing a debate stage?

Four other presidents also tried to win a second non-consecutive term. Three did not win their party's nomination. One did, but lost the election in a landslide:

https://www.city-sentinel.com/government-opinion/non-consecutive-presidential-terms-analysis/article_cc68d63a-a15a-596f-a524-f754bf4f265a.html

Four other times in our nation’s history, former presidents have sought to win back the White House.

In 1840, Martin Van Buren lost his bid for reelection and then ran again for the Democratic nomination in 1844 and 1848, losing both times.

In 1850, Millard Fillmore became president when Zachary Taylor died in office. He didn’t get the Whig party nomination in 1852, but did in 1856 and got just eight electoral votes.

Ulysses S. Grant wanted to run for a third term in 1876, but was persuaded not to run by Republican Party leaders. Grant sought the GOP nomination in 1880, but was defeated by James Garfield.

Teddy Roosevelt became president in 1901, when William McKinley was assassinated. He won in 1904 and then declined to run in 1908, instead endorsing William Howard Taft. He became upset with Taft and challenged him for the GOP nomination in 1912. After losing to Taft, Teddy ran as an Independent under the Bull Moose Party banner. Teddy spilt the vote and Taft finished third and Democrat Woodrow Wilson won.

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Anonymous wrote:1. It would be absolutely insane for someone who has already been president, then lost his reelection, to go back and get in the mix again. Have to prove himself up against the Cruzes and Rubios and all them. Seems extra humiliating and weird.

You mean, like Grover Cleveland? He was the 22nd and 24th POTUS with Benjamin Harrison beating him in between.

And in that in-between election, Grover Cleveland was like Hillary Clinton. He won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college vote, largely on 4 swing states (NY, NJ, CT, IN). When he won the first time, he won all four swing states. When he lost the second election, he only won 2 of those swing states.

And like the second time he won the election, it was a rematch of the election he had lost 4 years ago. Trump is definitely eyeing a rematch against Biden and beating him just like Grover Cleveland against Benjamin Harrison (not that he probably has any idea that that is what he is doing...he probably doesn't even know that either of those two men were previous POTUSes).

Yes, the fact that you can only point to Grover Cleveland as an example helps show why this is super weird. I think it would be really - I don't know. I guess as someone who loathes Republicans now maybe it would be fun to watch them tear each other apart, finally? How hard would they all go after Trump at this point? How do they pretend they are Trumpy while still attacking Trump? And how would Trump do sharing a debate stage?

Four other times in our nation’s history, former presidents have sought to win back the White House.

In 1840, Martin Van Buren lost his bid for reelection and then ran again for the Democratic nomination in 1844 and 1848, losing both times.

In 1850, Millard Fillmore became president when Zachary Taylor died in office. He didn’t get the Whig party nomination in 1852, but did in 1856 and got just eight electoral votes.

Ulysses S. Grant wanted to run for a third term in 1876, but was persuaded not to run by Republican Party leaders. Grant sought the GOP nomination in 1880, but was defeated by James Garfield.

Teddy Roosevelt became president in 1901, when William McKinley was assassinated. He won in 1904 and then declined to run in 1908, instead endorsing William Howard Taft. He became upset with Taft and challenged him for the GOP nomination in 1912. After losing to Taft, Teddy ran as an Independent under the Bull Moose Party banner. Teddy spilt the vote and Taft finished third and Democrat Woodrow Wilson won.

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Anonymous wrote:1. It would be absolutely insane for someone who has already been president, then lost his reelection, to go back and get in the mix again. Have to prove himself up against the Cruzes and Rubios and all them. Seems extra humiliating and weird.

You mean, like Grover Cleveland? He was the 22nd and 24th POTUS with Benjamin Harrison beating him in between.

And in that in-between election, Grover Cleveland was like Hillary Clinton. He won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college vote, largely on 4 swing states (NY, NJ, CT, IN). When he won the first time, he won all four swing states. When he lost the second election, he only won 2 of those swing states.

And like the second time he won the election, it was a rematch of the election he had lost 4 years ago. Trump is definitely eyeing a rematch against Biden and beating him just like Grover Cleveland against Benjamin Harrison (not that he probably has any idea that that is what he is doing...he probably doesn't even know that either of those two men were previous POTUSes).

Anonymous wrote:1. It would be absolutely insane for someone who has already been president, then lost his reelection, to go back and get in the mix again. Have to prove himself up against the Cruzes and Rubios and all them. Seems extra humiliating and weird.

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Anonymous wrote:Tim Scott 2024

Dems would have no answer

Uncle Tom

How is Tim Scott an Uncle Tom?

Black Republican male is automatically an Uncle Tom

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Anonymous wrote:Tim Scott 2024

Dems would have no answer

Uncle Tom

How is Tim Scott an Uncle Tom?

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Anonymous wrote:Tim Scott 2024

Dems would have no answer

Uncle Tom

Anonymous wrote:Tim Scott 2024

Dems would have no answer