Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 16:19     Subject: Fed up with isolation and newborn
Lots of walks, baby in a carrier, you with an engaging podcast or audiobook. That was my Jan-March 2021 and I so understand where you are right now.

Can you bubble? We had a specific family whose child was not in group care and we did a two week quarantine followed by tests to rent a big house in WVA last February. I think it saved my mental health for the winter.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 15:28     Subject: Fed up with isolation and newborn
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who would go to the trouble of making a rude comment on this thread is not someone I would take seriously…



Posters aren’t being rude, PP, they are telling OP the truth. This is not the time to get “fed up” and “throw caution to the wind” with a baby. OP and you both need to take them seriously. You can’t poor-momma when she’s talking about exposing her newborn baby to covid because it’s not what she thought it would be like. Baby has to come first.


Maybe she feels better complaining and getting a little commiseration and instead she's getting finger wagging.


OP is contemplating, in her words, “throw caution to the wind” and it is scary.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 15:14     Subject: Re:Fed up with isolation and newborn
Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember that we’re talking about a NEWBORN here. It wasn’t like any reputable pediatrician thought it was wise to take a newborn into crowded indoor places in the dead of winter before covid!

Further, we are in a viral surge right now. If there was a vicious cold going around, the recommendation for a newborn would be to keep them away from people.


Right. Which is why we don't slam 6 week olds into daycare so mom can work, right?
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 15:13     Subject: Fed up with isolation and newborn
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who would go to the trouble of making a rude comment on this thread is not someone I would take seriously…



Posters aren’t being rude, PP, they are telling OP the truth. This is not the time to get “fed up” and “throw caution to the wind” with a baby. OP and you both need to take them seriously. You can’t poor-momma when she’s talking about exposing her newborn baby to covid because it’s not what she thought it would be like. Baby has to come first.


Maybe she feels better complaining and getting a little commiseration and instead she's getting finger wagging.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 15:10     Subject: Re:Fed up with isolation and newborn
Let’s remember that we’re talking about a NEWBORN here. It wasn’t like any reputable pediatrician thought it was wise to take a newborn into crowded indoor places in the dead of winter before covid!

Further, we are in a viral surge right now. If there was a vicious cold going around, the recommendation for a newborn would be to keep them away from people.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 15:05     Subject: Re:Fed up with isolation and newborn
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Come on now OP you had a baby during a pandemic. What did you expect?


Get over yourself pp. When op conceived the baby (presumably last spring) vaccines had been rolled out, most were optimistic and she probably expected, as most people did and public officials kept touting, that we would be in a very different place right now.


I can't believe people are not having kids over a virus with 99.6% survival rate. That is totally insane. How do these people drive on a highway without having a panic attack?
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 15:05     Subject: Fed up with isolation and newborn
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It sucks OP, and so do some of these responses. Go for walks without the baby if at all possible. Do the virtual mom's group(s). This can't last forever...... right??


For next 2-3 years...certainly.


It's never going away. Humans forget immunity to coronaviruses. This was known with common cold coronaviruses and that is playing out with covid. So even if the highly contagious low virulence strain spreads around the world, everyone will forget immunity and be susceptible to the next strain (at least old people with weak immune systems will, who were the people shutting down society from the beginning anyway). That in combination with mutations, vaccine manufacturers always being two steps behind and vaccine skeptics, means we can expect at least one new strain every flu season. So... live under a rock when you have a newborn or are pregnant, then move on with your life. People average 2 flu infections every 10 years, you can expect something similar with covid.


I actually completely agree with you.

I think it'll recede to a more manageable everyone gets a annual-flu AND covid shot status in the U.S. in 2-3 years. At least for adults. Can't speak to those under 5.

Influenza has never 'gone away'. Its just called by a cuter name now and we don't have over 1 million people dying from it a year.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 14:59     Subject: Fed up with isolation and newborn
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It sucks OP, and so do some of these responses. Go for walks without the baby if at all possible. Do the virtual mom's group(s). This can't last forever...... right??


For next 2-3 years...certainly.


It's never going away. Humans forget immunity to coronaviruses. This was known with common cold coronaviruses and that is playing out with covid. So even if the highly contagious low virulence strain spreads around the world, everyone will forget immunity and be susceptible to the next strain (at least old people with weak immune systems will, who were the people shutting down society from the beginning anyway). That in combination with mutations, vaccine manufacturers always being two steps behind and vaccine skeptics, means we can expect at least one new strain every flu season. So... live under a rock when you have a newborn or are pregnant, then move on with your life. People average 2 flu infections every 10 years, you can expect something similar with covid.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 14:13     Subject: Re:Fed up with isolation and newborn
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Come on now OP you had a baby during a pandemic. What did you expect?


Get over yourself pp. When op conceived the baby (presumably last spring) vaccines had been rolled out, most were optimistic and she probably expected, as most people did and public officials kept touting, that we would be in a very different place right now.


Most weren't stupid though. No one with a brain thought the pandemic would disappear overnight or over the summer I'm guessing was OPs timeline.

I knew a FTM pregnant in September 2021 and she insisted that everything would be fine and her newborn was going to be vaccinated when it was born in November 2021 because 'they promised the vaccines were on a timeline!'

I told her to check the news in May 2021 about the first rollout for child vaccines and she shut up. Her kid still isn't vaccinated and likely won't be until EOY 2022.



Pfizer says kids under 5 may not get shots until mid-2022 after trial found low-dose vaccine didn't work in kids aged 2-5

https://www.businessinsider.com/pfizer-says-covid-vaccine-fails-in-children-2-5-booster-2021-12
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 14:07     Subject: Re:Fed up with isolation and newborn
While many of us have been where OP is and empathize, the fact remains that she cannot “throw caution to the wind”. Her first responsibility is to her newborn baby’s health and safety.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 13:53     Subject: Fed up with isolation and newborn
Anonymous wrote:How old is baby? If I had a 6 week old, I would take him or her out in some capacities. I have a toddler and am pregnant. We take the kid (and soon to be kids) to museums, restaurants, etc.

You take your toddler to restaurants during this crazy surge? That seems really unwise. Not to mention that you are high risk as a pregnant woman.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 10:33     Subject: Fed up with isolation and newborn
I second the suggestion to go for walks. Use a baby carrier and the baby will have your body heat, which goes a long way.

I had a winter baby in Michigan (real winter compared to DC) and still went for walks. Minimal Covid risk outdoors on uncrowded trails.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 09:07     Subject: Re:Fed up with isolation and newborn
Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Come on now OP you had a baby during a pandemic. What did you expect?


Get over yourself pp. When op conceived the baby (presumably last spring) vaccines had been rolled out, most were optimistic and she probably expected, as most people did and public officials kept touting, that we would be in a very different place right now.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 08:56     Subject: Fed up with isolation and newborn
Anonymous wrote:white people problems


No need for racial comments.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2022 08:53     Subject: Fed up with isolation and newborn
How old is baby? If I had a 6 week old, I would take him or her out in some capacities. I have a toddler and am pregnant. We take the kid (and soon to be kids) to museums, restaurants, etc.