Anonymous
12/30/2021 14:16
Subject: Re:The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While a HS junior, DS was able to play internationally against the likes of FC Zenit, play u23 summer club ball with and against D1 talent and earn a u23/first team offer from a USL2 club outside our area, but yet not make his HS varsity team. The bar is EXTREMELY high in PW County!
Thats because PWC HS sports are very political!! Do you have another kid at the school? Do you live in the same neighborhood as coach? Is a sibling on another sports team? In Western PWC coaches do NOT pick by ability - they pick by politics.
All HS soccer is political. I've seen it in private and public.
Political if kids don’t make the team
Not sure that it is political but the coaches generally are not good soccer coaches and can only coach to the lowest common denominator style wise so they often select those who are the lowest common denominators as players. If they spend more time at tryouts running sprints than scrimmages your kid is in for a very special time.
Our team had the players to play good soccer, but it was a large roster and not once did they use the best combo. They could have controlled right down the midfield but never had the smartest most finessed players together on the field at the same time.
A good coach would have seen that because the very brief time these kids were on the field together the play was demonstratively so much better. There are some games they could have won, but never took some of these kids off the bench while they kept getting crushed, beaten and making egregious errors—the kind most kids stopped making in early rec soccer.
Anonymous
12/30/2021 14:15
Subject: The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree that high school soccer is disgustingly political-especially on the girls side in DMV privates. When you see 3rd and 4th level travel players making Varsity over ECNL/EDP players there is a problem…
It's the same with boys' private in the DMV. Some kids that literally just boot the ball down the field to make a field goal each time (yards above the net) and can't even stand on their feet praised upon praised. And then a very talented kid who never looses possession and is making an impact screamed at the entire game by the Coach. Meanwhile, dipshits that literally lose the ball every play get praised.
It's an outer body of experience. We had no choice to laugh about it.
We also have an unusual number of "package deals" on our high school squads: twins and triplets. Some not good at all or only one of them is decent. I guess they don't want to break them up. Who knows?[/quote]
Same thing happens with mean girl friend groups at our private..one out of 4 an actual high value player and the rest suck but are “good friends”. Utterly reprehensible. Glad they lost everything that mattered this season!
Anonymous
12/30/2021 14:04
Subject: Re:The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While a HS junior, DS was able to play internationally against the likes of FC Zenit, play u23 summer club ball with and against D1 talent and earn a u23/first team offer from a USL2 club outside our area, but yet not make his HS varsity team. The bar is EXTREMELY high in PW County!
Thats because PWC HS sports are very political!! Do you have another kid at the school? Do you live in the same neighborhood as coach? Is a sibling on another sports team? In Western PWC coaches do NOT pick by ability - they pick by politics.
All HS soccer is political. I've seen it in private and public.
Political if kids don’t make the team
Not sure that it is political but the coaches generally are not good soccer coaches and can only coach to the lowest common denominator style wise so they often select those who are the lowest common denominators as players. If they spend more time at tryouts running sprints than scrimmages your kid is in for a very special time.
Anonymous
12/30/2021 13:42
Subject: Re:The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While a HS junior, DS was able to play internationally against the likes of FC Zenit, play u23 summer club ball with and against D1 talent and earn a u23/first team offer from a USL2 club outside our area, but yet not make his HS varsity team. The bar is EXTREMELY high in PW County!
Thats because PWC HS sports are very political!! Do you have another kid at the school? Do you live in the same neighborhood as coach? Is a sibling on another sports team? In Western PWC coaches do NOT pick by ability - they pick by politics.
All HS soccer is political. I've seen it in private and public.
Political if kids don’t make the team
Anonymous
12/30/2021 12:07
Subject: The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agree that high school soccer is disgustingly political-especially on the girls side in DMV privates. When you see 3rd and 4th level travel players making Varsity over ECNL/EDP players there is a problem…
I am talking about Premier 1/2 level EDP players being denied spots…absolutely mind blowing-and clusters of other lower level players making the team 🤮
My kid has been in contact with one of the top D1 programs in the country and barely played and I seriously question (seeing the favorites and last year's selections) that he will make it next year. Nepotism is real.
Anonymous
12/30/2021 12:06
Subject: Re:The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While a HS junior, DS was able to play internationally against the likes of FC Zenit, play u23 summer club ball with and against D1 talent and earn a u23/first team offer from a USL2 club outside our area, but yet not make his HS varsity team. The bar is EXTREMELY high in PW County!
That is not reflective of a high bar. It is reflective of the quality of coaching and level of high school play.
I've seen a few that got D1 scholarships not make their high school team. True.
^and by that I mean 'poor' quality
You should see some who made the team vs those that got cut. It's comical.
Yup, lots are lazy coaches just looking for size over ability, sad but true.
Anonymous
12/30/2021 12:05
Subject: The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Agree that high school soccer is disgustingly political-especially on the girls side in DMV privates. When you see 3rd and 4th level travel players making Varsity over ECNL/EDP players there is a problem…
It's the same with boys' private in the DMV. Some kids that literally just boot the ball down the field to make a field goal each time (yards above the net) and can't even stand on their feet praised upon praised. And then a very talented kid who never looses possession and is making an impact screamed at the entire game by the Coach. Meanwhile, dipshits that literally lose the ball every play get praised.
It's an outer body of experience. We had no choice to laugh about it.
We also have an unusual number of "package deals" on our high school squads: twins and triplets. Some not good at all or only one of them is decent. I guess they don't want to break them up. Who knows?
Anonymous
12/30/2021 12:00
Subject: Re:The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While a HS junior, DS was able to play internationally against the likes of FC Zenit, play u23 summer club ball with and against D1 talent and earn a u23/first team offer from a USL2 club outside our area, but yet not make his HS varsity team. The bar is EXTREMELY high in PW County!
Thats because PWC HS sports are very political!! Do you have another kid at the school? Do you live in the same neighborhood as coach? Is a sibling on another sports team? In Western PWC coaches do NOT pick by ability - they pick by politics.
All HS soccer is political. I've seen it in private and public.
Anonymous
12/30/2021 11:59
Subject: Re:The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While a HS junior, DS was able to play internationally against the likes of FC Zenit, play u23 summer club ball with and against D1 talent and earn a u23/first team offer from a USL2 club outside our area, but yet not make his HS varsity team. The bar is EXTREMELY high in PW County!
That is not reflective of a high bar. It is reflective of the quality of coaching and level of high school play.
I've seen a few that got D1 scholarships not make their high school team. True.
^and by that I mean 'poor' quality
You should see some who made the team vs those that got cut. It's comical.
Anonymous
12/30/2021 11:58
Subject: Re:The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:While a HS junior, DS was able to play internationally against the likes of FC Zenit, play u23 summer club ball with and against D1 talent and earn a u23/first team offer from a USL2 club outside our area, but yet not make his HS varsity team. The bar is EXTREMELY high in PW County!
That is not reflective of a high bar. It is reflective of the quality of coaching and level of high school play.
I've seen a few that got D1 scholarships not make their high school team. True.
Anonymous
12/30/2021 08:34
Subject: The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:HS sports are a completely different vibe than travel. It’s about playing with your friends and your school. School spirit, senior night, homecoming, pep rallies, all that. It’s social. Winning a state championship for your school is memorable. It’s not about individual development or getting recruited to college teams.
School spirit. Lol. This is not how it is anymore. These kids don’t care about their school. Most of their friends are on social media from all over the region. The attitude towards a HS is much different than it was when we were kids. They simply don’t identify as a “______” in the same way.
It may not be the same as when we were kids but it does still exist. Maybe not in your HS or for your kids, but doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist everywhere. In our part of Loudoun there are 4 HS just within a few miles of each other. Many of the kids know each other across schools because school boundaries are always shifting and some of the schools only opened recently. It makes for good rivalries.
My kids have played both HS and travel. They like both for what they are. HS is more about fun. After school practices with your friends. No pressure from coaches to perform. HS is like a fun rec league.
Anonymous
12/30/2021 07:57
Subject: The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:HS sports are a completely different vibe than travel. It’s about playing with your friends and your school. School spirit, senior night, homecoming, pep rallies, all that. It’s social. Winning a state championship for your school is memorable. It’s not about individual development or getting recruited to college teams.
School spirit. Lol. This is not how it is anymore. These kids don’t care about their school. Most of their friends are on social media from all over the region. The attitude towards a HS is much different than it was when we were kids. They simply don’t identify as a “______” in the same way.
Anonymous
12/29/2021 23:11
Subject: The travel bar... would they make their high school team
My DD made varsity all four years and had a lot of fun.
Anonymous
12/29/2021 23:08
Subject: The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Our local HS had 150 travel soccer kids try out for the varsity team the year before covid. Probably 50 of them were on the top teams for their clubs so all excellent players. They started with a timed run and if you didn't make the very competitive time you got cut automatically but I can guarantee you all of those 50 made it. There were a couple of stars and position mattered of course, but for the rest it seemed pretty random. It was hard to differentiate between many of those top 50. I'm sure politics/pressure from parents who have influence in the school plays in to it as this is a school in a wealthy area. This is the boys side.
What HS is this? Loudoun has what, 4 clubs and 17 HS, PW has 4 clubs and 13 HS, Fairfax has under 10 clubs and 25 HS. 2 club years for varsity and 2 for JV. How does one HS have 50 kids from top teams try out? Most top travel teams have kids from 4, 5, 6 or more HSs.
I’m guessing this is a MCPS school.
Anonymous
12/29/2021 22:34
Subject: The travel bar... would they make their high school team
Anonymous wrote:
Our local HS had 150 travel soccer kids try out for the varsity team the year before covid. Probably 50 of them were on the top teams for their clubs so all excellent players. They started with a timed run and if you didn't make the very competitive time you got cut automatically but I can guarantee you all of those 50 made it. There were a couple of stars and position mattered of course, but for the rest it seemed pretty random. It was hard to differentiate between many of those top 50. I'm sure politics/pressure from parents who have influence in the school plays in to it as this is a school in a wealthy area. This is the boys side.
What HS is this? Loudoun has what, 4 clubs and 17 HS, PW has 4 clubs and 13 HS, Fairfax has under 10 clubs and 25 HS. 2 club years for varsity and 2 for JV. How does one HS have 50 kids from top teams try out? Most top travel teams have kids from 4, 5, 6 or more HSs.