Anonymous
12/19/2021 08:28
Subject: If Trump had a 2nd term in office, would the US vaccination profile look any different?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We would be using protocols to treat early
And we'd have more deaths, and more hospitals and healthcare workers overwhelmed.
So no early treatment? Wait for people to get sick and have to go to the hospital? How does that not overwhelm the hospitals?
What early treatment was available? We just got COVID pills. And there weren’t enough monoclonal to hand out like candy until recently (and now they don’t work against omicron)
BlueFredneck
12/19/2021 07:54
Subject: If Trump had a 2nd term in office, would the US vaccination profile look any different?
also a lot would depend on how Trump got his second term.
If he had gotten it through chicanery and state legislatures finding fraud where none existed, then we'd be too busy re-creating mai 1968 (misspelling deliberate) to notice.
If he'd been re-elected fairly, then my earlier scenario kicks in.
If he had gotten it through chicanery and state legislatures finding fraud where none existed, then we'd be too busy re-creating mai 1968 (misspelling deliberate) to notice.
If he'd been re-elected fairly, then my earlier scenario kicks in.
BlueFredneck
12/19/2021 07:51
Subject: If Trump had a 2nd term in office, would the US vaccination profile look any different?
I suspect vaccines overall would've been delayed a few weeks to several weeks in states with ineffective leadership. I don't know if it'd have coincided with the first waves of Delta, but I don't think it'd have been THAT bad.
We probably would've had more reachout to MAGA-heavy skeptics and less reachout to anti-MAGA skeptics (i.e. Blacks and White hippies). I don't know if the MAGA reachout would've ended like Trump's attempt to encourage vaccination. SO in the end, I suspect vaccination rates would be a few points lower.
Not sure who'd reach out to White hippies but I suspect Blacks would've had ministers and other trusted figures reach out to encourage higher vaccination.
Probably more work done on treatments, both those that work (monoclonal antibodies) and those that probably don't (the paste of the horse).
Testing probably would've been an afterthought, with a 20-30% chance of someone deciding to go Operation Warp Speed.
We probably would've had more reachout to MAGA-heavy skeptics and less reachout to anti-MAGA skeptics (i.e. Blacks and White hippies). I don't know if the MAGA reachout would've ended like Trump's attempt to encourage vaccination. SO in the end, I suspect vaccination rates would be a few points lower.
Not sure who'd reach out to White hippies but I suspect Blacks would've had ministers and other trusted figures reach out to encourage higher vaccination.
Probably more work done on treatments, both those that work (monoclonal antibodies) and those that probably don't (the paste of the horse).
Testing probably would've been an afterthought, with a 20-30% chance of someone deciding to go Operation Warp Speed.
Anonymous
12/19/2021 07:51
Subject: Re:If Trump had a 2nd term in office, would the US vaccination profile look any different?
Anonymous wrote:People seem to have forgotten the true horribleness of the trump administration to even contemplate this.
The wavering both sides-ers (aka the “moderates”) have memoryholed it. Trumpets are too stupid to understand how bad Trump was.